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Guys would you

knotjen said:
It's objectification. For most fetishists, women are just interchangeable actors in the porno running through their head. We're not viewed as people, only as facilitators of whatever it is they are into. That's what is so off-putting.

An example would be most foot-fetishists - To them, I'm not a person. I'm merely a life-support system for a pair of feet. Same for most flavors of fetishism whether it be submissive fetishism, oral fetishism, or any other. Which is why in general, I shy away from fetishists.

Another common trait among fetishists is the "must do this to exist" way of thinking, rather than wanting to do something and seeking out a compatible partner.



In a vanilla context, absolutely. There are those who choose to be in D/s relationships that are defined, negotiated, and implemented and they're happier for it. Sometimes that's very gentle and more of the "yes, dear" type of thing. It can also be more extreme with high protocols, absolute obedience, more like consensual slavery. I'm not going to say any of it is good or bad because it really comes down to what people want in their relationships and how they negotiate for it - is that discussion and negotiation honest and transparent? Or does it come with a more sneaky method trying to leverage or guilt the other person into it?

Back to the original topic. I'll be honest with you - considering how intense and body/mind encompassing my orgasms are from dog sex most of the time, a man not wanting to put his face there afterwards really isn't a big deal. By the time my dog is done, I'm past done most of the time, exhausted and depleted.

That's s not to say it doesn't feel nice because it does, but there's little to no chance I'm going to orgasm from him doing that immediately afterwards. Plus, it's his choice anyway - consent and all that. Even zooish men don't necessarily want a face of dog cum. We're all different and there's no right or wrong in any of it, except to say consent is always necessary.

I've dated several zooish men over the years, and for the most part those relationships were rather similar though not by intention or anything.

With most of them, our relationships worked like most relationships (rather vanilla) except there was a poly component for me with a dog(s). Some of them were into watching, some of them were a little more participatory, a few were just okay with what I was into and didn't watch or participate.

I did date a couple fetishistic zooish men over the years though. One considered himself a cuckold, so our relationship was mostly normal and vanilla except he and I didn't have intercourse. Other forms of physical intimacy yes, but no intercourse. The only intercourse I had was with a dog, and he had none at all. He was the cuckold of a dog. I knew that going into the relationship and I gave it a whirl even though my radar was tingling because I liked the guy but ultimately it didn't work out long term. I'm more of an organic type of person and am not into that kind of self-imposed rigidity. And, I do like intercourse with men, particularly the man I'm dating/partnered with.
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For me, it's really about trust, and maybe I'm totally off base here, but I feel that full trust is just not possible without total equality and respect going both ways.

If one inhibits themselves because they're afraid to offend their partner, then that to me damages the trust in some way.

If my partner wants to be with the dog, or masturbate or whatever, I'm not going to be upset by it, rather I'm going to be happy that they feel comfortable enough to be able to enjoy themselves as they see fit in the moment, of course providing that we have our together time too.
 
knotjen said:
It's objectification. For most fetishists, women are just interchangeable actors in the porno running through their head. We're not viewed as people, only as facilitators of whatever it is they are into. That's what is so off-putting.

An example would be most foot-fetishists - To them, I'm not a person. I'm merely a life-support system for a pair of feet. Same for most flavors of fetishism whether it be submissive fetishism, oral fetishism, or any other. Which is why in general, I shy away from fetishists.

Another common trait among fetishists is the "must do this to exist" way of thinking, rather than wanting to do something and seeking out a compatible partner.



In a vanilla context, absolutely. There are those who choose to be in D/s relationships that are defined, negotiated, and implemented and they're happier for it. Sometimes that's very gentle and more of the "yes, dear" type of thing. It can also be more extreme with high protocols, absolute obedience, more like consensual slavery. I'm not going to say any of it is good or bad because it really comes down to what people want in their relationships and how they negotiate for it - is that discussion and negotiation honest and transparent? Or does it come with a more sneaky method trying to leverage or guilt the other person into it?

Back to the original topic. I'll be honest with you - considering how intense and body/mind encompassing my orgasms are from dog sex most of the time, a man not wanting to put his face there afterwards really isn't a big deal. By the time my dog is done, I'm past done most of the time, exhausted and depleted.

That's s not to say it doesn't feel nice because it does, but there's little to no chance I'm going to orgasm from him doing that immediately afterwards. Plus, it's his choice anyway - consent and all that. Even zooish men don't necessarily want a face of dog cum. We're all different and there's no right or wrong in any of it, except to say consent is always necessary.

I've dated several zooish men over the years, and for the most part those relationships were rather similar though not by intention or anything.

With most of them, our relationships worked like most relationships (rather vanilla) except there was a poly component for me with a dog(s). Some of them were into watching, some of them were a little more participatory, a few were just okay with what I was into and didn't watch or participate.

I did date a couple fetishistic zooish men over the years though. One considered himself a cuckold, so our relationship was mostly normal and vanilla except he and I didn't have intercourse. Other forms of physical intimacy yes, but no intercourse. The only intercourse I had was with a dog, and he had none at all. He was the cuckold of a dog. I knew that going into the relationship and I gave it a whirl even though my radar was tingling because I liked the guy but ultimately it didn't work out long term. I'm more of an organic type of person and am not into that kind of self-imposed rigidity. And, I do like intercourse with men, particularly the man I'm dating/partnered with.
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It's easy to see that for alot of people the woman are just something to help get there orgasm and then on to the next one. But i will say there are also a great deal of men that truly do want a partner to experience life with and this would only be a small part of that.
 
beardeddude84 said:
It's easy to see that for alot of people the woman are just something to help get there orgasm and then on to the next one. But i will say there are also a great deal of men that truly do want a partner to experience life with and this would only be a small part of that.
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I just don't understand that train of thought... I mean, it certainly does exist, but I don't understand why or how someone could feel complete or happy with only having something physical without the emotional and trust bond as well as the experience of having it.

Just seems empty to me.

Sure, I learned the hard way that it's better to be single than to be in a relationship that has you having to not live as who and what you really are, like having a wife that gets pissed off because you decided to spend part of the weekend wrenching on your classic car.

I dunno, I just don't see why someone would get pissed off at seeing their partner being happy from something that doesn't involve cheating or some other kind of malicious behavior...
 
K_9River_rat said:
I just don't understand that train of thought... I mean, it certainly does exist, but I don't understand why or how someone could feel complete or happy with only having something physical without the emotional and trust bond as well as the experience of having it.

Just seems empty to me.

Sure, I learned the hard way that it's better to be single than to be in a relationship that has you having to not live as who and what you really are, like having a wife that gets pissed off because you decided to spend part of the weekend wrenching on your classic car.

I dunno, I just don't see why someone would get pissed off at seeing their partner being happy from something that doesn't involve cheating or some other kind of malicious behavior...
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I sure would love to. Best of both worlds right.
In fact. Would love to lay beneath here while the dogs is fucking her and suck and lick her at that same time. ?
 
Intriguedbyu said:
OK never done this never even thought of it till recently, never seen it on a video. Who would attempt licking a woman’s clit as she was knotted and clean her up after knot popped free?
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Definitely I would
 
why knot? lol. had to. but yes. as garth brooks would say
Well I'm shameless
When it comes to loving you
I'll do anything you want me to
I'll do anything at all
 
Intriguedbyu said:
OK never done this never even thought of it till recently, never seen it on a video. Who would attempt licking a woman’s clit as she was knotted and clean her up after knot popped free?
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Yes…. Very Hot!!!!

followmedowndeep said:
Lol I actually just discussed this with my girl. Told her I’d immediately wrap my lips around her hole after a big pull-out as she gushed, letting her fill my mouth. Then I’d take a fist-full of her hair and force her head back, slowly dribbling everything into hers.

She genuinely shuddered with excitement. ?
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You’re the man ? go for it!
 
Been there and done that years ago with an ex. She loved it. We'd take turns and she was my slave. When she was thirsty she had to lick the sweat off me first. Sadly things changed in her life and we split.
 
MaryesK9 said:
I have enjoyed my hubby or the dog's owner in my mouth as the knot is making things so wonderful. Have not yet met anyone enjoying creampie cleanup after a dog, but I'm sure it has happened.
I have had men and women use thier talented fingers on my clit during the dog's performance... very rewarding
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I would love to clean up doggy cream pie. :)
 
MaryesK9 said:
I have enjoyed my hubby or the dog's owner in my mouth as the knot is making things so wonderful. Have not yet met anyone enjoying creampie cleanup after a dog, but I'm sure it has happened.
I have had men and women use thier talented fingers on my clit during the dog's performance... very rewarding
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I for one wouldn’t hesitate for a second to clean up such a beautiful creampie !!!
 
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