The main data you want to get rid of is any GPS location that could get embedded in it. It doesn't happen to every picture or video; it depends on your phone settings.I've never really uploaded any vids or images because of this, but recently I've uploaded a file in another thread, went onto a site to erase all the metadata of the video and downloaded the erased one. But wouldn't that contain new metadata from being downloaded?
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I will definitely keep this in mind, can I ask how you access all that information or have I overlooked that in the thread?And other metadata:
phone model, serial number, lens serial number, camera model, settings...
This is all the metadata iphone saves to your jpeg photos (anonymized)
Look at the IDs, I bet at least one stays the same for all photos.
So if you upload that here and you get in trouble, all anyone needs to 100% tell it is you, is your phone.
On Windows, right click > properties > detailsI will definitely keep this in mind, can I ask how you access all that information or have I overlooked that in the thread?
I have linux and this is from terminal using the exiftool command.I will definitely keep this in mind, can I ask how you access all that information or have I overlooked that in the thread?
If you download a picture and open it in Google photos, it will show you the location and such right in it.On Windows, right click > properties > details
On Mac, right click > get info
On phone, you'd probably need a specific metadata reader app
In fact different file formats can contain different metadata.If you download a picture and open it in Google photos, it will show you the location and such right in it.
Hello! Zooville.org has ran a routine scan for metadata on media you uploaded, and we believe it may put your anonymity at risk.
The following potential issues were identified on the following files:
- Geolocation (1, 2, 3, 4)
- Phone Model (2, 5, 8)
- Social Media Tags (2, 3, 6, 7)
- Camera Settings (3, 4)
This is a once-monthly, once-per-file warning that will not be sent again. Reuploading a file with the same metadata will regenerate the warning the next time the scan is invoked for your profile. This warning may be a false flag, may trigger on metadata that does not damage your anonymity, or may be a product of de-anonymization efforts. If you are aware of this and would like to stop receiving alerts, click here.
To make sure I understand this specifically, are you suggestingI suggest you do it yourself. That is the only way it might get done. I would be very thankful and so should the community.
MakeScanning for files that have metadata and activating the report button without saving anything between checks. Throttling to reasonable levels. I did consider the security implications and weighed them against the fact that these files are already easy to access and the the mods have limited abilities to secure these files. Basically, if it was a choice of opening a backdoor for you to do this then I would object, but I think you could do it without asking even and they probably don't have the tools to stop you. So nothing is lost by you doing it with permission.
OneActually instead of reporting, you should send them as a PM to @pes . He is tech savvy and would respond to them all appropriately.
Post@Antics3309 You should be able to PM very soon. You get the ability 1 day after you reach 10 or 11 posts.
No. That is a terrible idea as people will feel just move the responsability of their safety to other people. Some people might even *blame* others for not removing the sensible info (yes, has happened)I feel like steps should be taken by moderation to pre-emptively scan and scrub metadata from files on their own. Beyond what is done now.
Report button should be fine, just add the explanation "gps info in image" so they know what to look for.Actually instead of reporting, you should send them as a PM to @pes . He is tech savvy and would respond to them all appropriately.
I am not going to save, strip metadata and reupload massive amounts of files. You can do that yourself, the tools are available.Actually instead of reporting, you should send them as a PM to @pes . He is tech savvy and would respond to them all appropriately.
We do take down files with gps, but not every file with any ids and other metadata.I don't have the permissions to do that, I'm not a moderator. If I PM you links to files with gps on them you won't take them down?
What is meant is that you remove the GPS and other metadata before you upload !I don't have the permissions to do that, I'm not a moderator. If I PM you links to files with gps on them you won't take them down?
Then my idea holds better than a plugin or mod, as the piece of software I envision does not require permanent modification to the forum software. It's akin to running a python script - only requires installing Python if such is not already available.That's cool if it happens, but looking at omni's history I think this is what he meant by it'll only happen if done apart from the site: https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/pin-a-thread-to-this-forum-explaining.110143/
I do not know how the forum software is structured, but the files are probably in a database and may not be accessible easily in the filesystem.Then my idea holds better than a plugin or mod, as the piece of software I envision does not require permanent modification to the forum software. It's akin to running a python script - only requires installing Python if such is not already available.
I really don’t want to burden the moderators with such extra work. It is a strange detour to let a program find the files and then the moderator should take action to scrub the file ?I don't think he was talking about uploading content with gps coordinates and then messaging a mod to fix it. He was saying that because other people mistakenly upload files with GPS and the forum doesn't scrub all of that, then a program can be made to find images like that and pm'ed to pes for moderation / user safety.
True, but it is their own problem if they don’t react in spite of being warned.Not a bad idea but some users are really inactive or don't plan on returning.
From what I understand it gets stripped from photos. However, it's not something that happens immediately. Basically a scan is performed on the servers every 15-20 minutes to strip the metadata from what I've been told.
It's supposed to strip it from videos as well, but, from what I've seen it doesn't do a very good job and it pretty much always skips .MOV files. I've seen .MOV files hang around for months with metadata intact.
Like the others have mentioned, it's best to just strip the metadata yourself before uploading content so that you'll have some peace of mind before uploading, instead of just hoping the forum will do the work for you. There are plenty of free software for both mobile and PC that'll strip the files of metadata.
While I get what you're going for, there's only so much a team of unpaid volunteers can really do.*Guy's entire life gets ruined* - whelp, the warning waaaaas posted. Welcome message for new users? No. Upload form? No. Sticky at least?!? No. Just, you know, somewhere. Wait, the site found the GPS in the image and did what instead of remove it?!?
I have several times written a PM to members because their Avatar or other uploaded photos / videos contained metadata showing cameratype, settings and so on. And GPS, so the exact filming location was visible.While I get what you're going for, there's only so much a team of unpaid volunteers can really do.
Plus, people don't read shit anyway. Even if you flashed a big warning in front of them that took up the entire screen and they couldn't click accept for 30 seconds, they still wouldn't read it.
Same.I have several times written a PM to members because their Avatar or other uploaded photos / videos contained metadata showing cameratype, settings and so on. And GPS, so the exact filming location was visible.
Missing the forest for the trees.I have several times written a PM to members because their Avatar or other uploaded photos / videos contained metadata showing cameratype, settings and so on. And GPS, so the exact filming location was visible.
You think it is a waste of time. Perhaps, but it feels good to me.Missing the forest for the trees.
You think it is a waste of time. Perhaps, but it feels good to me.
Most of them replied with a thank. And that they didn’t know they could be revealed.
I am also amazed on how often people uses no form of password on their phone, and also wear it fully visible for any pickpockets.
I had to message someone once because their video had a geolocation embedded in it that showed exactly where they recorded it. Thankfully I'm not a bad actor and just told them to remove it for their own safety, as well as to disable their location embedding.
Truth be told, geotagging should always remain off in your camera. GPS should stay off too, unless actively in use at that point in time. When it's done being used, turn it off.
Quadruple check everything you want to post before you post it. Wait some time in between checking, even going do far as to sleep on it a few times. Always try to look with a different set of eyes and scrutinize the shit out of every detail of your pictures and videos.
People are insanely crafty and piece together a little from here and a little from there to figure out more than might be expected.
Doubt nothing and distrust everyone.
Do I think it's a waste of time?The average person is also exceedingly dumb and of below-average intelligence.
And a lot of people DON'T use it, for any number of reasons. Don't think to, don't want to, don't know how, don't want to learn how, etc.
Why don't you be helpful to them and use it and copy and paste the links here to provide it for those that can't/won't find it for themselves?