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F Admits in Interview Caught by BF Cheating with BF Dog

Rocthorne said:
Like I said to saddlebum66, not everyone's vows are the same. For me and the hubs it doesn't violate our vows whatsoever.
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Guess it's hard for others to understand not everyone lives by their life "rules"
What you and your hubs consider cheating is your business

Keep living your best life! disregard the negative opinions of online strangers :giggle:
 
saddlebum66 said:
Good to hear....but if your vows dont forbid cheating, why bother, "my girl"?
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Our vows forbid cheating, but that extends to intimacy/romance with other people. Not our animal companions. We are in a commited relationship with vows to one another, but neither one of us considers intimacy with animals as cheating..is that really that hard to understand? Or do you just think everyone has the same vows as everyone else?
 
Red_Neptune said:
Guess it's hard for others to understand not everyone lives by their life "rules"
What you and your hubs consider cheating is your business

Keep living your best life! disregard the negative opinions of online strangers :giggle:
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Thank you, it just blows my mind people assume the world has to operate by their understanding of it alone and that others may have different thoughts and approaches to the matter.

That being said we plan on living our best life! In fact I'm ecstatic because we have been discussing making content seriously, because both of us want to ? non zoo stuff on Phub and OF mostly...but he's also on board to make zoo content with me for our personal use alone...and maybe to share some here.
 
Rocthorne said:
Our vows forbid cheating, but that extends to intimacy/romance with other people. Not our animal companions. We are in a commited relationship with vows to one another, but neither one of us considers intimacy with animals as cheating..is that really that hard to understand? Or do you just think everyone has the same vows as everyone else?
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Vows are vows. If they do not set forth certain Values, why bother....There's really nothing to hold anyone to anything. But that's for the Future to decide. Good luck.
 
saddlebum66 said:
Vows are vows. If they do not set forth certain Values, why bother....There's really nothing to hold anyone to anything. But that's for the Future to decide. Good luck.
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Your basing your entire argument around an objective way of thinking. Not subjectively, your values and my values are likely very different. So to try and diminish what constitutes someone's vows and values based on your own objective understanding of them is laughable is all I'm saying. For my relationship this doesn't cross a line in my vows or the values we hold in our relationship. And I'm happy with that, as is my husband. Had it crossed a line the relationship would have ended long ago. The future will tell, but the future is bright!
 
Rocthorne said:
Your basing your entire argument around an objective way of thinking. Not subjectively, your values and my values are likely very different. So to try and diminish what constitutes someone's vows and values based on your own objective understanding of them is laughable is all I'm saying. For my relationship this doesn't cross a line in my vows or the values we hold in our relationship. And I'm happy with that, as is my husband. Had it crossed a line the relationship would have ended long ago. The future will tell, but the future is bright!
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Yes, I am thinking objectively, not subjectively. Sure you know the terms? Regardless, it is your future. Good luck.
 
Rocthorne said:
Your basing your entire argument around an objective way of thinking. Not subjectively, your values and my values are likely very different. So to try and diminish what constitutes someone's vows and values based on your own objective understanding of them is laughable is all I'm saying. For my relationship this doesn't cross a line in my vows or the values we hold in our relationship. And I'm happy with that, as is my husband. Had it crossed a line the relationship would have ended long ago. The future will tell, but the future is bright!
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I wouldn't worry about his way of thinking. Some people choose to see life only one way and can't possibly imagine another persons intentions outside a very narrow view point. I see people like him every day that sum someones entire life with a look and carry on their day already making up their minds on who they are and what they want out of life without getting to know that person at all. Your talking to a broken record, don't bother.

As for your vows and relationship, I think it's wonderful you both could bond over this, it's not easy talking to your partner about zoo stuff at all. Zoos are outnumbered 100 to 1 it seems and outing yourself could mean the difference between life and death, your freedom, your reputation in the eyes of your friends, family, and society. There might not be a whole lot to live for after that depending on who you are.

I hope your new interests on Phub and OF work out for you and if you ever decide to share your doggo videos, I'm sure you will have a crowd. ;)
 
CollieMom said:
Dogs aren't cheating.


It's not, in the same way using a sex toy isn't cheating. I love my dog like everyone loves their dog: as a pet, not a person. He just get to fuck me because I let him and I let him because he's an epic masturbation aid ?
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Damn, way to objectify a pet ?
 
Bloit said:
Damn, way to objectify a pet ?
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and a pretty solid case of denial. i kinda get it tho, one doesn't have to think about morality/being disloyal if they somehow call sex "masturbation with aid" with presumably straight face. not that "a penis enters a vagina" is the literal description of straight sex mechanics or anything....
 
nekdoneco123 said:
"having sex with someone else outside of knowledge of one's partner" => objective
"it's not cheating, because that someone else is just an animal" => subjective

not my "way of thinking", just the logical one.
whatever helps you sleep at night, mate.
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I never said that "it's not cheating because that someone else is an animal" as for your first and failed "objective"...while yes I did once do it outside his knowledge, he now knows and accepts my Zoosexuality so im not doing anything outside his knowledge now. Als9 I'd never objectify my animal companion in the way you did with your example of "Subjective" it's not just an animal that becomes a sex toy when the hubs isnt horny. Our dogs are
our animal companion/member of the family, and they aren't a sex toy to be used when the hubby isn't down for fucking, they are loved and valued...and have the choice of saying no if they aren't up for it.
 
Well if that video was real her life would be over. I don't consider zoo sex the same as human sex. I don't view it as cheating. Some might but for me it's very different.

And if the video is real I hope he joined in!
 
Zoohorseman said:
Well if that video was real her life would be over. I don't consider zoo sex the same as human sex. I don't view it as cheating. Some might but for me it's very different.

And if the video is real I hope he joined in!
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I'm the same way you are, as is my hubby. He doesn't care about me fooling around with animals but people? Not a chance.
 
nekdoneco123 said:
"having sex with someone else outside of knowledge of one's partner" => objective
"it's not cheating, because that someone else is just an animal" => subjective

not my "way of thinking", just the logical one.
whatever helps you sleep at night, mate.
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having sex with their knowledge is subjecting them by withholding truth

thinking it’s not cheating because its an animal is objective, because construct of vows object to the premise That vows are sacred.

it’s like telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth…. Except you subjected the other person to only the truth and nothing but the truth, but you left out the whole truth
 
Never looked at the Vid posted with this thread til this minute, but it was determined to be a fake at BF about ten years ago. It looks like its been stepped on a half-dozen times. Of course, when its on the Internet, it HAS to be true.....doesn't it? I mean, Tincanandstring, the God of Communication is looking out for Truth, Justice, and Fair play for all, no?
 
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