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Do owners always want to join?

Kennelcumdump said:
Unfortunately I cannot have a dog of my own. I'd love to offer my pussy to be used by any animal who needs to release a load but I have basically zero interest in humans. How hard will it be to find someone who will let me be a cumdumpster for their pet, but won't want me to service them too?
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Well you know how the ol sain goes where there's a will there's a way ..... If you ever decide to meet an owner just let them know what you want from the get go ..... I'm sure there's gotta be someone on here that'll respect your wishes ..... Good luck .....
 
Kennelcumdump said:
Unfortunately I cannot have a dog of my own. I'd love to offer my pussy to be used by any animal who needs to release a load but I have basically zero interest in humans. How hard will it be to find someone who will let me be a cumdumpster for their pet, but won't want me to service them too?
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It will be challenging and take time to weed out the owners that won't require anything sexual from you but they do exist, myself included. Before I had my own lover, I was in your position seeking doggy dates without wanting to be intimate with the owner and had alot of luck on BF finding very sweet and respectful men. Don't lose hope and keep hunting for what you are seeking until you can finally have an animal of your own to love.
 
Kennelcumdump said:
Unfortunately I cannot have a dog of my own. I'd love to offer my pussy to be used by any animal who needs to release a load but I have basically zero interest in humans. How hard will it be to find someone who will let me be a cumdumpster for their pet, but won't want me to service them too?
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unfortunately it is common :(
 
Even worse when you dont want anyone watching either, Ill just wait till i live in a place where dogs are allowed
 
I've trained animals... and their owners. But, I'll only join in (pleasing the owner) if asked to. In the meantime, I'll be supervising a session or more (if needed - usually not) to make sure all goes well.
 
K9GuyinTX said:
I am not an owner, but I am a guy that would share if the circumstances were right. I think the big distincition here is what an owner wants and what they will insist upon as a condition. Assuming we are talking about human male owners here, you would be hard pressed to find one that did not want to participate. However, we can be respectful enough of the other person's wants and desires to refrain from making advances or otherwise making the other person uncomfortable. I would imagine that if I were fortunate enough to be in a situation to provide a willing dog for such a meeting, being a helper/witness would be plenty enough for me. Just my .02 for what it is worth.
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My thoughts exactly. If I was lucky enough to be in this situation, sure, sex would be great! But its not something I expect, rather being a helper/guide/witness is more than enough payback.
 
Kennelcumdump said:
Unfortunately I cannot have a dog of my own. I'd love to offer my pussy to be used by any animal who needs to release a load but I have basically zero interest in humans. How hard will it be to find someone who will let me be a cumdumpster for their pet, but won't want me to service them too?
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I'm not an owner myself unfortunately, and as a male I wouldn't be wanting to do anything of a sexual nature with my canine if I did own one, but, like many others here I'd be perfectly happy to just watch him servicing agreeable human females. I can't think of many more agreeable ways to spend some time.
 
I would be turned on by having the owner watch and then let him enjoy my cream pie. Good luck with your desired scenario. We all have special challenges.
 
Kennelcumdump said:
Unfortunately I cannot have a dog of my own. I'd love to offer my pussy to be used by any animal who needs to release a load but I have basically zero interest in humans. How hard will it be to find someone who will let me be a cumdumpster for their pet, but won't want me to service them too?
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Hmmmm, going to be straight . I was a owner of both Dawgs and a stallion. Had many meets. I would respect your wishes. But would be very hard not to want to join in. Just being honest. If you don't want to ... how to say??? You would be best to become a owner. Sry just trying to give best advice. As most would want to join in. Good luck best wishes
 
If I trusted the person interested in having sex with my dog, and my dog showed an equal interest to have sex with that person I would be okey with the two of them having sex.
No need for me to watch if the person did not ask me to for support or guidance.
Would have prefered if it was my husbands dog instead of mine, but still.
 
Unfortunately there are a lot of men who are not respectful of a woman’s wishes to not engage with them sexually. While I understand the desire to want to be an active participant, being an owner does not guarantee you that right. Ultimately the woman has the right to choose who her sexual partners, and she should be free to do so without coercion.

There are plenty of owners out there who are good, respectful people. They may be harder to find, but there are plenty out there. Don’t get discouraged, but be cautious when discussing plans with an owner. You’ll find what you’re looking for eventually.
 
sh2564 said:
Unfortunately there are a lot of men who are not respectful of a woman’s wishes to not engage with them sexually. While I understand the desire to want to be an active participant, being an owner does not guarantee you that right. Ultimately the woman has the right to choose who her sexual partners, and she should be free to do so without coercion.

There are plenty of owners out there who are good, respectful people. They may be harder to find, but there are plenty out there. Don’t get discouraged, but be cautious when discussing plans with an owner. You’ll find what you’re looking for eventually.
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Of equal importance is that finding an owner, any owner, doesn't give anyone guaranteed access. Of equal lack of respect is the concept that anyone can use an owners animal as a sex toy. It's a 2 way street.

You want milk from a store, just because they have it doesn't mean you can have it. The understanding is that the milk has a price, if you don't feel the milk is worth the asking price, you look elsewhere for the milk.

It works both ways, prices vary. Everyone is free to look until they attain a price they are ok paying.

While I don't really disagree with anything you said, I do strongly disagree with the way you chose to frame it. It has exactly nothing to do with any lack of respect for a woman's wishes. You talk about it before you set it up, she knows what is or isn't required before she agrees to meet. If she chooses to proceed, with something she disagrees with, who's fault is that? If she chooses not to proceed, that's also perfectly fine.

The characterization that an owner's requirement for sexual interaction with their animal be that they are also involved is somehow disrespectful is dishonest at best and pandering at worst. How disrepectful is it for you, or anyone else, to imply that my ownership of an animal somehow entitles random people to sexual access on whatever terms they deem acceptable?

At the end of the day, it's always going to be a negotiation, you like the terms or you don't. If you like the terms, you proceed, if you don't, you look elsewhere.

It's not as hard as many people make it. It's also not nearly as easy as many people come into it believing. Most people, on BOTH sides really need to adjust their expectations to reality, something quite a few members of this site are clearly not very in touch with.

Talk to people, talk to many different people. Base your actions on reality, and the includes the reality of what type of person you are talking to. There are some very responsible owners on this site, and there are some very responsible seekers here as well. But, like any other place on the internet, there are also quite a few careless and irresponsible people. Those fall on both sides of the equation as well, and those people are as dangerous to themselves as they are other people. I would suggest anyone seeking either side of the equation pull their head out of their ass and pay very close attention to who they are dealing with and what those people are saying. Like anything else in life, you get out of it what you put into it. You put honest effort in, you'll have better results, if you put in trash, you'll get trash out.

Above all, at the end of the day, it's YOUR ass at risk, if you're smart, you'll keep that in mind all through the process. Because it's you who pays the price when things go south.
 
As almost every commenter has stated, there are owners who would be fine with just watching, assisting, possibly letting you spend time with their animal privately. The main and most important thing is to not just jump on an offer. Take the time, get to know them via text, email, phone, meet at a public place to chat, etc. You could also ask for them to get you in touch with others they have allowed to spend time with their animal as references. Our basic human instincts, while sometimes ignored, are usually pretty spot on when it comes to potentially dangerous/uncomfortable situations. If you have a feeling that the person is not being honest, or that something just isn't right, trust that feeling.
 
Dogdaddy69 said:
Of equal importance is that finding an owner, any owner, doesn't give anyone guaranteed access. Of equal lack of respect is the concept that anyone can use an owners animal as a sex toy. It's a 2 way street.

You want milk from a store, just because they have it doesn't mean you can have it. The understanding is that the milk has a price, if you don't feel the milk is worth the asking price, you look elsewhere for the milk.

It works both ways, prices vary. Everyone is free to look until they attain a price they are ok paying.

While I don't really disagree with anything you said, I do strongly disagree with the way you chose to frame it. It has exactly nothing to do with any lack of respect for a woman's wishes. You talk about it before you set it up, she knows what is or isn't required before she agrees to meet. If she chooses to proceed, with something she disagrees with, who's fault is that? If she chooses not to proceed, that's also perfectly fine.

The characterization that an owner's requirement for sexual interaction with their animal be that they are also involved is somehow disrespectful is dishonest at best and pandering at worst. How disrepectful is it for you, or anyone else, to imply that my ownership of an animal somehow entitles random people to sexual access on whatever terms they deem acceptable?

At the end of the day, it's always going to be a negotiation, you like the terms or you don't. If you like the terms, you proceed, if you don't, you look elsewhere.

It's not as hard as many people make it. It's also not nearly as easy as many people come into it believing. Most people, on BOTH sides really need to adjust their expectations to reality, something quite a few members of this site are clearly not very in touch with.

Talk to people, talk to many different people. Base your actions on reality, and the includes the reality of what type of person you are talking to. There are some very responsible owners on this site, and there are some very responsible seekers here as well. But, like any other place on the internet, there are also quite a few careless and irresponsible people. Those fall on both sides of the equation as well, and those people are as dangerous to themselves as they are other people. I would suggest anyone seeking either side of the equation pull their head out of their ass and pay very close attention to who they are dealing with and what those people are saying. Like anything else in life, you get out of it what you put into it. You put honest effort in, you'll have better results, if you put in trash, you'll get trash out.

Above all, at the end of the day, it's YOUR ass at risk, if you're smart, you'll keep that in mind all through the process. Because it's you who pays the price when things go south.
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I totally agree with you. I didn’t mean to come off that way. I started writing a bit about respect from all parties involved and that if the different wants and needs aren’t gelling then it just doesn’t need to happen. It was late, however, and I couldn’t articulate myself as well as I wanted.

You’re right though, having a pup doesn’t not mean someone should feel entitled to play with him/her. I was approaching the posted question from the perspective that I’ve heard women indicate that they feel many men are not respectful of them. Im
 
sh2564 said:
I totally agree with you. I didn’t mean to come off that way. I started writing a bit about respect from all parties involved and that if the different wants and needs aren’t gelling then it just doesn’t need to happen. It was late, however, and I couldn’t articulate myself as well as I wanted.

You’re right though, having a pup doesn’t not mean someone should feel entitled to play with him/her. I was approaching the posted question from the perspective that I’ve heard women indicate that they feel many men are not respectful of them. Im
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Thank you.

As I said, I agree with all the points you made, my disagreement was entirely in what I felt was an unfair implication that wanting involvement itself is disrespectful. I don't believe that it is.

I DO however believe that there are too many people here who behave extremely difrespectfully, especially men toward women. Among the worst of those are the men who don't even OWN an animal, but pretend to, I guess working on the logic that "She'll fuck a dog, she should fuck me". I don't understand the line of thought, nor do I understand why that persists as something anyone thinks will be successful. I also very much think that MOST of the worst people, as far a being disrespectful, are men.

Some of the disrespectful people are female, though given the number of fake females here, I think you have to take each of those cases with a large grain of salt. As far as women go, they are much more likely to approach it from what I can only call a sense of entitlement. Which is more or less why the concept irritates me as much as it does.

Overall though, I think the bigger problem, no matter how the approach is made or the manner it's made in, is the concept that zooville is Tinder for dogs (horses, pigs, cows, what have you). It isn't. Yes, you can find an animal ....encounter here, but that is far from the only reason people are here. People need to realize that and act accordingly.

I think zooville is pretty well run, and I think the rules here are actually more fair than they really should be. I understand why things I feel should not be allowed are allowed, but, I understand, logically, why they are allowed. There are areas where those rules could be .....cleaned up a little....as example, I understand why it's not against the rules to pretend you have animals, and, philosophically, I agree. But, I do think that if you engage in a chat with a member here pretending to be an owner and it transpires that you are NOT an owner, I think the other party should be able to submit that entire chat to a Mod and that should result in you getting banned outright. As far as I know, that doesn't happen.
 
Kennelcumdump said:
Unfortunately I cannot have a dog of my own. I'd love to offer my pussy to be used by any animal who needs to release a load but I have basically zero interest in humans. How hard will it be to find someone who will let me be a cumdumpster for their pet, but won't want me to service them too?
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This is definitely one of my biggest concerns with looking for an owner. I will likely only be sexually interested in their furry friend and not them as well. I definitely don't want to put myself in a situation where they expect something from me. ?
 
AKnotymous said:
This is definitely one of my biggest concerns with looking for an owner. I will likely only be sexually interested in their furry friend and not them as well. I definitely don't want to put myself in a situation where they expect something from me. ?
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I have met a lot of nice owners unfortunately they only want their dog to breed women
 
Dogdaddy69 said:
Thank you.

As I said, I agree with all the points you made, my disagreement was entirely in what I felt was an unfair implication that wanting involvement itself is disrespectful. I don't believe that it is.

I DO however believe that there are too many people here who behave extremely difrespectfully, especially men toward women. Among the worst of those are the men who don't even OWN an animal, but pretend to, I guess working on the logic that "She'll fuck a dog, she should fuck me". I don't understand the line of thought, nor do I understand why that persists as something anyone thinks will be successful. I also very much think that MOST of the worst people, as far a being disrespectful, are men.

Some of the disrespectful people are female, though given the number of fake females here, I think you have to take each of those cases with a large grain of salt. As far as women go, they are much more likely to approach it from what I can only call a sense of entitlement. Which is more or less why the concept irritates me as much as it does.

Overall though, I think the bigger problem, no matter how the approach is made or the manner it's made in, is the concept that zooville is Tinder for dogs (horses, pigs, cows, what have you). It isn't. Yes, you can find an animal ....encounter here, but that is far from the only reason people are here. People need to realize that and act accordingly.

I think zooville is pretty well run, and I think the rules here are actually more fair than they really should be. I understand why things I feel should not be allowed are allowed, but, I understand, logically, why they are allowed. There are areas where those rules could be .....cleaned up a little....as example, I understand why it's not against the rules to pretend you have animals, and, philosophically, I agree. But, I do think that if you engage in a chat with a member here pretending to be an owner and it transpires that you are NOT an owner, I think the other party should be able to submit that entire chat to a Mod and that should result in you getting banned outright. As far as I know, that doesn't happen.
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I completely agree with everything you said. It’s unfortunate that there are those bad apples here that taint the experience for the rest of us.
 
sh2564 said:
I completely agree with everything you said. It’s unfortunate that there are those bad apples here that taint the experience for the rest of us.
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It would be nice if people could get their shit together. We all come here for a reason, whatever the reason is.
 
Indeed. Unfortunately too many people are notoriously unreliable and self serving.
On the plus side, you seem like a thoughtful and intelligent person. So it’s a pleasure to meet you.
 
astraa119 said:
I have met a lot of nice owners unfortunately they only want their dog to breed women
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That's good to know that owners like that do exist, and I'm happy for the girls who can take advantage of an opportunity like that. Unfortunately being a femboi myself I suppose it will be a lot harder for someone like me to have my first experience lol.
 
sh2564 said:
Indeed. Unfortunately too many people are notoriously unreliable and self serving.
On the plus side, you seem like a thoughtful and intelligent person. So it’s a pleasure to meet you.
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Thank you.

The feeling is mutual. It's not often people here disagree on simple points, or think they do, and then actually come to any kind of agreement. Which seems to be an overall flaw in humans in general. Sad but true.
 
Yeah, that’s definitely not limited to zooville. That’s sorta an internet thing or a human thing in general. Find your position and dig in come he’ll or high water
 
AKnotymous said:
That's good to know that owners like that do exist, and I'm happy for the girls who can take advantage of an opportunity like that. Unfortunately being a femboi myself I suppose it will be a lot harder for someone like me to have my first experience lol.
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I’d like to offer you encouragement, but I’m still new here. Trying to introduce myself to as many people local to me as I can in the hope that I find a couple who are real and decent. This far I haven’t got a feel for how many are fakes, flakes or whatever but I think that if you stick with it and recognize it could take time you’ll eventually find what you’re looking for.
 
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