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:ROFLMAO: Yes, but if you subtract the reasons for most users appearing on this platform aka forum: porn, connections or "activity events" with humans, animals, them self (i.e. masturbating to mislead other users as example..), boredom, sexual restlessness or frustration, sexual curiosity and a few (lower %, surely) different aspects.. what's left?

For those which are true to their emotional and interest-based / fascination based form of living with animals? And just with animals, which reduces the chit-chat with humans to almost zero compared to those which want to find girls that first fuck their dog, then the horny nutcase (contacting user)..

There's not much reason to actually encircle the forum for longer periods of time at once, rarely are there "really new" developments or aspects to be seen, if one is (was is probably the better descriptive term, as nowadays it's just "me and my own interests / animals") since the 1995+ in the .nets and zoo-areas.

Much more neutral in that time, I have to say. But okay, it was fully legal without enforced or harming activities for the animals (at least this) then in crazy Germany - legal as in "one could be 14-16 (legal age of personal decisions in many aspects, as long as you yourself decided to actually start the activities, no need to be 18 to go around and fuck out - or vice versa - still it was a tricky and law-sided problematic aspect below 16, as it depended on psychological development if in relation to older humans (over +2 years of difference) and to start anything with animals (no matter if you were just 16 or above), as long as no animal cruelty took place and for sure: best-would-be-if-nobody-noticed-it.

And no, it was not less hated, there was just less social activity spreading over city borders due to almost nobody participating regularly in online activities, no "smart"phones of value for the description (okay, that's a problem which is still not wholly solved, but they proved to be excellent spying-on-people devices which those carry around with them self all the time even freely!).

It's all just.. Hmm. Let's say: The antisocial "social" Internet just made it ways easier for people to "fight others with their lifetime on blade's edge, while they don't have to do anything dangerous for them self at all". It made manipulation through companies, through bureaucracy, even just collection of information ways easier.

Not better, not necessarily. It's more comfortable to order something nowadays than to before 2005-2008, true. But it's not "better". Better would resemble a state of improvement, while most valued and respected aspects to that time actually experienced a grave downfall through "social" media which proved anti social in most cases, it proved to split people, create echo chambers.


Long story short: Nowadays I prefer to do something in the real world, even if I'm still heavily linked to the digital world. I just don't collect EXP anymore on game servers which shut down randomly (even as you could see a heart failure as the real life equivalent to this.. it's less probable that this occurs after some months to years because of greedy companys, d'Oh). I collect it in real life. I bear losses in real life. I hate things in real life. But I rarely let it take over a big time of my life time to fight those actually, as it's not deemed worth the value of my life time.

It's not ignorance either, just the greater reflection of "what is this?". If our sun shrinks and expands, nothing on this small planet will still be the same. Not one living being (no matter the amount of offspring) will survive those features of physical and chemical results.

Why should I deeply care about some online rant?

I can take the time and reap my own bio-potatoes ten meters southwards. As well as actually boil and eat those. It's a direct experience and it has a value - for me. It's something I like to remember. No matter how it all ends.

Value lays in the individual viewpoints and I don't follow some predefined bullshit lifestyles that occur all day, all night.

As such there's only a bit of time where I actually enjoy to be here, online - writing a few postings and disappearing again. And some time disappear forever. That's as well a physical and chemical feature, even if I hate it.
So, basically to summarize, as long as I've read everything correctly... you'd rather spend more time IRL with the furry ones you love. You're tired of all the zoo infighting that exists. Being a zoo in the modern times is way too dangerous due to spying and tracking of the internet nowadays. Being online is fine for you sometimes in short doses just to pass time and have a little fun, but only in small doses as it runs its course quickly. Over time you've become less social towards humans over all.

Probably missing a lot there... but I definitely cannot type as fast as you can and don't feel the need to spend like 30 minutes towards making a long reply. Lol

If I were you (I ain't, that's why I am I), I would not wait or hope for any retirement. But just fuck that job up, cancel it and start a fox farm in some offspring country side? Who knows.

But if you value the profit through your job high enough (or need it fundamentally), then I can understand your retirement-plan.
If I could live comfortably without a job I definitely would. But even the most barren of land in the U.S.A. is owned by somebody, whether that land is owned by the government, a private entity, or belongs to the native tribes of North America. If I tried setting up shop on said barren land and tried to live completely off the grid, sooner or later I'd eventually be caught. Even off the grid living through legal means is not something you can do very dirt cheap, at least not comfortably. Here, you're still expected to pay property taxes, and we also have dumb laws that work to be a hinderance such as making it illegal to collect rainwater for later filtration and personal use.

There's not a lot of money to be made by having a "fox farm" as even if I were to becomes a tame fox breeder in the U.S. the amount of people actually crazy enough to take on the responsibility is very slim. I'd want to make sure any fox would go to a loving home with someone that actually has experience or at least proper knowledge of proper fox "ownership." I've looked into it and done a lot of research in the past, I've browsed the fox and exotic pet ownership forums, and Foxes... even the tame ones... are a LOT of work to keep properly. Something you have to basically spend vast amounts of time towards every single day. Since I basically need a job to survive, I figure IF... and that's a big IF... I were to ever keep a fox as a beloved companion, it would be best when I'm retired, have money to blow already (since they're basically money pits), and also have the time to actually do things properly to make sure she wouldn't be neglected.
 
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It is :( indeed. She got over an inch in size... probably close to an inch and a half. I'd even leave the porch light on for her so that she could collect moths in her big web. But with the weather regularly dipping below 60 degrees American Freedom temperature units and into the upper 50s, I figured it was only a matter of time before she disappeared.
 
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Oh, Mrs. Shemon was (or is) active - I hope you're healthy and your loved ones are fine. (y)
It's quite rare to see some overlapped online time while being here only for short time spans most of the time.

I figured it was only a matter of time before she disappeared.
That's quite cold in your region, but here it is not that much different. In the night it cools down to one-digit Celsius temperatures nowadays.

So, basically to summarize, as long as I've read everything correctly..
Yes, but there are different reasons for a given, as well. I'm not very social in terms of humans anyway (being a misanthrope that's the usual result).
And it takes too much time out of all-day process in plans, work, projects, organizing, if there are multiple hours carelessly spent in the nets.

The same goes to "meeting zoos": after a few years of doing so you've probably met each type of zoo at least once and see that they are basically exact copies of "humans with human interactions": it's rare to see a zoo trying on a more off-grid lifestyle specifically with their animals, as example. And with all the falseness and pretentious selfishness which exists, it's mostly "not that acceptable" for me in RL compared to what people communicate. Hard to look over people telling they're exclusive zoos which love animals but at the end handle those more like fuck toys than respected family members (and that was quite often the case, unfortunately).

If I could live comfortably without a job I definitely would.
Understandable - it sure isn't a very profitable way to breed family-compatible "tamed" foxes for sales. And they need a lot of work, but I wouldn't say "that" much more than a long-haired hyper active dog breed. But if you count the amount of foxes needed in such a "tamed fox farm", it sure becomes a full-time job with low profit.

Here it is easier to establish a rescue station, which quite often gets supplementary money through the country and most expenses fall aside (like renting land, constructing closed areas) as they get supported by the country / region. But it's very rare to have such rescue stations for foxes in Germany, rescue stations for wolves or other animals are more widely existent.

This is due to "foxes" being still a rodent / pest like animal for hunters and forest rangers, it's not exactly something the land would want to care "even better for", as it is with the almost nonexistent (due to old time hunting excess) wolves.


Off to work / projects now, I wish you people a good day and week - stay healthy, be happy. ❤️
 
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