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Bestiality in mainstream media

WhaleSong said:
Do you know if he ever followed-up on his statement, either reaffirming his position or indicating that he had changed his mind? (I'm too lazy to look it up.) I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot of negative responses, including a bunch of people presenting him with various "bestiality is wrong and should be illegal because..." arguments. If they convinced him, he would likely say so.

His defense of bestiality is not wrong, but it's weak, and easily refuted by various anti-bestiality arguments. Of course, we have our own arguments to refute those arguments, but few people are willing to consider them, including people in the media or in positions of power. Even if we convinced some of them, few of them would stick their necks out for us. Cenk's small, weak, one-time defense of bestiality was used against him in his run for Congress with headlines like "Democrat wants to legalize bestiality!" so most people who might have similar views would be very unlikely to say so publicly given the consequences they might face for taking such a position.

Fortunately, there are people in the legal system who think that prosecuting people for bestiality is a waste of time and resources unless there's evidence the animal was harmed. I can think of one case where the animal was assessed, found to be healthy and happy, and the judge dismissed the case. Of course, the case was reported in the media, so the guy still probably suffered some pretty serious consequences. His relationships with family, friends, and co-workers may have been damaged or destroyed, and he may have difficulty finding a home or a job.
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He has made a few remarks on bestiality in light in the past. This time around, there was significant backlash to his statement from both his coworkers to his political rivals. Bernie Sanders retracted his endorsement of Cenk shorter after he made that statement. However he also has a history a sexist remarks and has at one point denied the Armenian genocide. So his bestiality comments may have contributed to the withdrawal but was not the only reason.

I do not know whether or not he made any follow up statements because I don't have the time to listen through every single talk show hes hosted. What I do know is that his co-workers were not happy with him. He hasn't made any remarks since then that went viral.
 
WhaleSong said:
Well, a few people have already mentioned the TV show The Magicians. I'd like to discuss it in more detail because the show's creators and characters seem to be open-minded about human-animal love. Also, I think it's a great show and I highly recommend it. (It's available on Netflix.) I'll begin with a summary of the show's premise, then I'll review how it handles the topic of bestiality.

The Magicians TV show is based on a series of books, which I have not read. It's my understanding that the books have some pretty significant differences. The show is about some young people in their 20s going off to a secret, hidden university (Brakebills) to study magic at a grad school level. It's sort of a cross between Harry Potter and the Chronicles of Narnia, with a little bit of Peter Pan thrown in, but with darker, with very adult themes.

The main character, Quentin, is obsessed with a series of children's books about a group of siblings from Earth who travel through various portals to the magical world of Fillory where they have various adventures. The characters eventually discover that Fillory is real and are able to travel there. The story takes place both on Earth and in Fillory, with some characters travelling back and forth between the two worlds. The gods of Fillory are two anthropomorphic rams, Ember and Umber. To aid the heros on their quest, Ember offers them his "essence" (a bottle of his semen), which one of them has to drink. ("Have You Brought Me Little Cakes?" Season 1, Episode 13.)

Two of the main characters, Quentin and Elliot, are both bisexual. Quentin prefers women, Elliot prefers men. There's a bittersweet "alternative timeline" episode where they spend their lives together.
  • In "Impractical Applications" (Season 1, Episode 6), the senior students put the new students through a sort of hazing ritual. There's a horse involved. At one point the new students are told that they need to take turns blowing the horse. The joke is that Quentin, the main character, seems somewhat willing to do it.
  • In "Thirty-Nine Graves" (Season 1, Episode 12), we learn that a group of Brakebills students traveled to Fillory where one of them has sex with a talking horse. It's not a crime in Fillory because talking animals can give consent, although it's still taboo.
  • A minor, recurring character is Rafe, the human male translator for Abigail the Sloth, the representative of the talking animals on the Fillorian High Council. Some of the other characters tease him by joking that he's in love with her, which turns out to be true.
  • One of the supporting characters has sex with a werewolf (off-screen). He admits that it's strange but also says it's cool "because who get to do that?" On another occasion he mentions having a threesome with two harpies.
  • The most significant zoo-postive episode is "The Fillorian Candidate" (Season 3, Episode 12). Elliot learns that his "daughter" is in love with a talking bear. (She's not really his daughter--it's a long story.) Elliot's best friend Margo says she's fine with it as long as its consensual. Although somewhat taken aback, Elliot says, "Well, then, I will say what I wish my father had said to me: I'm so happy you're dating a bear." Margo wins the support of the talking animals who believe that if the can intermarry with humans, they will be treated as equals. (Humans run Fillory even though they are significantly outnumbered by talking animals.)
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I LOVE The Magicians, it's one of my favourite tv shows ever. I would recommend it to anyone that likes fantasy or even if fantasy is not what they would usually watch, I would still tell them to give it a go.
Just be aware that as great as it is, it can get real dark sometimes and goes over some pretty dark topics.
 
There's a recent movie on Netflix called Desperados that has a scene with a woman being humped by a dolphin. She stares into its eyes and it swims away, but then jumps out of the water at her a minute later. They actually show a closeup, slow motion view of his penis slapping her in the face!
 
In deadwood one of the characters talks about fuckin horses and he jacks off and cums against one of their body. You don't see the climax but it almost get him killed.
 
FlyingBear said:
Piers Anthony also had lots of implied bestiality in his books. Things like a woman and her horse drink from a stream enchanted with a love spell and that’s where centaurs come from kind of stuff. That guy was a perv.
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I've read nearly all his books, the beginnings of centaurs was when a bunch of soldiers came across the love stream with their mares, not the other way around.

He definitely has written about bestiality a lot, the first book in the Apprentice Adept series Split Infinity has the main character have sex with a unicorn mare while she's in human form, and a latter book his son and the unicorn's daughter married after having sex in all three of her forms, including unicorn.
 
TheAnswer said:
There's this game called Persona 5, and one of the members of your team is a cat called Morgana (a he/him, just to be clear), and practically from the start, he's been pretty close to this girl who's also on your team called Ann. I don't know the game far too well, but judging from the fact that he often refers to her as "Lady Ann", and is shown to be very close with her, I think it can be assumed that there's some chemistry going on between the two.
View attachment 16313 <--- (This is an actual screenshot from the game)
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I used to have the main character as my profile pic ?.
Nothing sexual happens between the cat and the human characters. However this screenshot is from Persona 5 Royal so there's a possibility that the cat becomes human briefly.
 
Mare Lover 1975 said:
I've read nearly all his books, the beginnings of centaurs was when a bunch of soldiers came across the love stream with their mares, not the other way around.

He definitely has written about bestiality a lot, the first book in the Apprentice Adept series Split Infinity has the main character have sex with a unicorn mare while she's in human form, and a latter book his son and the unicorn's daughter married after having sex in all three of her forms, including unicorn.
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Right! Thanks for the correction - it’s been a really long time since I’ve read those. Also no offense meant by the ‘perv’ comment, more just that there was a ton of sex in his books and a lot of it was peeking at girls’ underwear and so on. Obviously I loved it as a young fellow....
 
xpuppyslutx said:
There's a recent movie on Netflix called Desperados that has a scene with a woman being humped by a dolphin. She stares into its eyes and it swims away, but then jumps out of the water at her a minute later. They actually show a closeup, slow motion view of his penis slapping her in the face!
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Just went to watch this scene, It was quite funny!
 
xpuppyslutx said:
There's a recent movie on Netflix called Desperados that has a scene with a woman being humped by a dolphin. She stares into its eyes and it swims away, but then jumps out of the water at her a minute later. They actually show a closeup, slow motion view of his penis slapping her in the face!
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I remember that scene! I was watching it with the family and the room got so awkward :LOL:
 
I can’t believe no has mentioned the scene in the rebooted Star Trek (2009) where Uhura and Kirk meet. When he asks her what she focus at the academy is, she says xenolingustics he won’t understand what that means.

He replies, “The study of alien languages, morphology, phonology, syntax. It means youve a talented tongue.”

“I’m impressed. For a moment there I thought you were just a dumb hick who only has sex with farm animals.”

“Well, not only.”

 
RandomNameGenerated said:
I can’t believe no has mentioned the scene in the rebooted Star Trek (2009) where Uhura and Kirk meet. When he asks her what she focus at the academy is, she says xenolingustics he won’t understand what that means.

He replies, “The study of alien languages, morphology, phonology, syntax. It means youve a talented tongue.”

“I’m impressed. For a moment there I thought you were just a dumb hick who only has sex with farm animals.”

“Well, not only.”

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I don't think humanoids count as bestiality but it certainly is cross species.
 
The IFC sketch comedy show "The Whitest Kids U Know" had several references to it. This is the only one I can find on youtube right now:


I was looking for a skit they did about a "Zoophiles Anonymous" group, that was pretty funny. The other thing I remember was a random short clip they showed of a small dog licking a naked woman's nipple, with the caption "DOGS LOVE BOOBS". Apparently they could get away with showing that on IFC at the time.
 
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I remember seeing a clip a while back where a woman is on her hands and knees on the floor and gets mounted by her dog. It’s not graphic, but you see his paws grab her shoulders as she realizes what’s happening. I think it may have been a European (or maybe Australian?) tv commercial. I’ve been trying to find it to no avail. Has anyone else seen this?
 
WhaleSong said:
I've seen a few European adds over year with humorous references to bestiality. I know there was one where a guy was standing behind a horse or cow and in some slapstick scenario his pants came down. He wasn't actually doing anything sexual with the animal, but his wife/girlfriend saw him in that position and it looked like he was fucking the animal, or at least about to do so. He does that whole, "No, it's not what you think?" bit, as she storms away from him in shock and anger. As a viewer you know he's going to have a hard time convincing her that it was all a big misunderstanding and nothing untoward was actually going on.

A comparatively tame American ad comes to mind where a guy runs out of milk for his cereal. He looks out the kitchen window and sees a cow at the top of a hill. Soon, he's outside holding the bowl of cereal underneath the cow trying to figure out how to milk it. Back in the house, another guy is watching this from a window. A woman comes along and looks out the window. "Are you going to tell him that's a boy cow," she asks. "Nah," says the guy, "he'll figure it out." I couldn't help imagining the first guy eating his cereal with bull semen instead of milk.

The one that I found most shocking was another European commercial. I don't know from which country. It showed a young boy sitting in a bedroom and surfing the Internet. Then you hear the sound of sex and a man grunting and groaning in sexual pleasure. As the viewer you realize that the boy found some Internet porn and you think, OK, not really something he should be looking at, but kids do that. Then you hear "Baaaaaa..." Uh-oh. The kid's eyes go wide and he immediately shuts off the computer and goes running out of the room. Oh dear, the poor kid's traumatized by what he's seen. The joke is that a moment later he returns to the room carrying the family dog, throws the dog on the bed, and locks the door. The kid's not traumatized, he's inspired! I have no idea what it was an ad for. (I'd actually like to see that commercial again, but I've never been able to find it.)

One concern I have is that this ad may not be so far from the truth. I've seen some webcam videos of young guys with their dogs--not as young as the boy in the commercial, of course. I suspect that not all of them are true zoophiles, they're just horny teens who might never had considered bestiality had they not seen it on the Internet. For a young non-zoo to experiment sexually with the family pet might be OK, under the right circumstances, but to do it on a webcam while showing their faces strikes me as a really bad idea, and I worry about what consequences these boys may face. Also, I suspect that probably most of these boys think they're doing a "private show" for someone they met online, and may not realize that they are being recorded and the video is going to be distributed on the Internet.
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I found a link to the second ad I mentioned.

 
Trying to find that video.

Emily L. said:
I remember seeing a clip a while back where a woman is on her hands and knees on the floor and gets mounted by her dog. It’s not graphic, but you see his paws grab her shoulders as she realizes what’s happening. I think it may have been a European (or maybe Australian?) tv commercial. I’ve been trying to find it to no avail. Has anyone else seen this?
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FinKoira said:
Why not? Keep in mind that humanoid means just human-like. It may look like a human but taxonomically its a squid, for example.
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i should have checked the context first. now that i see we're talking about aliens, it's definitely not the same, IMO. i was thinking more along the lines of bipedal, or other members of primata, for example.
 
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