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anyone who succesfully quit smoking?

nekdoneco123

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i smoke 30-40 a day and decided to quit. bought my (hopefully) last pack of cigs today and some pills that promise to help suppress nicotine withdrawal effects over 25 days... after that i'm supposed to be free, at least the little pamphlet that came with the pills promises that. my plan is to take both the pack and the pills to work with me tomorrow and try to live off the pills and only reaching for a cig if it gets unbearable... i'm fairly weak-willed when it comes to smoking, last time i tried to quit (without any medication) i lasted maybe 10 hours before feeling like shit.

there are loads of random sites dabbling into this. usually just in form of general pointers (some pretty dumb ones like "not smoking might help you die later!") or it's just an advertisement for some "100%, foolproof, it'd be like you never smoked!" crap that usually costs a ton as well. what i'm looking for is some advice from someone who went through this too and ended up really free of the shit. did you just stop and endured the withdrawal without help? or you found something that actually works?
 
I've never personally quit because I've never consumed tobacco but I wanted to wish you good luck! Also there's a product (in the states at least) called ZYN that has helped many people at work quit smoking. They're just little flavored pouches of nicotine you put in your mouth. No harmful chemicals at all except nicotine. No smoking, vaping, dipping, chewing, ect at all at work so I've seen many co-workers switch to ZYN and then quit over the course of a year or two.

Good luck!
 
I smoked for many years, and I tried many times to quit, and I failed many times. It's very difficult for most people. When I quit for the final time, I used the nicotine patch for six weeks, and that did the trick. I had tried it before, but it really worked that time.
 
I've never personally quit because I've never consumed tobacco but I wanted to wish you good luck! Also there's a product (in the states at least) called ZYN that has helped many people at work quit smoking. They're just little flavored pouches of nicotine you put in your mouth. No harmful chemicals at all except nicotine. No smoking, vaping, dipping, chewing, ect at all at work so I've seen many co-workers switch to ZYN and then quit over the course of a year or two.

Good luck!
thanks. i'll look if we have anything of this sort available here if the pills (i kinda hope really believing they work will yield at least some placebo effect if nothing else) fail me. gotta say tho, year or two seems like an awfully long amount of time..
I smoked for many years, and I tried many times to quit, and I failed many times. It's very difficult for most people. When I quit for the final time, I used the nicotine patch for six weeks, and that did the trick. I had tried it before, but it really worked that time.
sadly, nicotine patches seem fairly expensive here and i know of loads of ppl who used them with pretty much no effect (same goes to some sort of spray you are supposed to spray in your mouth when you feel like smoking). i'm smoking for like 17 year now so i kinda expect quitting for good to be very unpleasant experience....
 
I vape now. It’s much easier to get to vape over just using pills and patches or gum. It gives you the feeling without the complicated issues with cigarettes. However I do enjoy a pipe almost nightly.
 
Quitting smoking was REALLY hard for me. I was able to quit using mild "happy pills" from my doctor once, and chewing mint gum. I was stupid and started again a few years later. After a while of being off them, I was able to have one or two when hanging out with friends, and would be fine as long as I didn't have one the next morning, but that's what happened one time and I was right back on them. I was able to quit again a few years later using the nicotine gum. I started with the 4mg gum and chewed that for a few months, then went down to the 2mg gum which I continued to use for like a year, and finally switched to regular mint gum that had the same flavor, which I still chew to this day. I liked smoking and didn't really want to quit, but I didn't like the ashtray smell about me and my place, the cost (a pack a day can be more than $200/mo), and of course the health risks. I'm not a young man anymore.
 
i smoke 30-40 a day and decided to quit. bought my (hopefully) last pack of cigs today and some pills that promise to help suppress nicotine withdrawal effects over 25 days... after that i'm supposed to be free, at least the little pamphlet that came with the pills promises that. my plan is to take both the pack and the pills to work with me tomorrow and try to live off the pills and only reaching for a cig if it gets unbearable... i'm fairly weak-willed when it comes to smoking, last time i tried to quit (without any medication) i lasted maybe 10 hours before feeling like shit.

there are loads of random sites dabbling into this. usually just in form of general pointers (some pretty dumb ones like "not smoking might help you die later!") or it's just an advertisement for some "100%, foolproof, it'd be like you never smoked!" crap that usually costs a ton as well. what i'm looking for is some advice from someone who went through this too and ended up really free of the shit. did you just stop and endured the withdrawal without help? or you found something that actually works?
Try Zyban..can still smoke while taking it..no side effects and will be done with cigs in about 30 days! It works..may need a prescription though. Good luck!! :gsd_happysmile:
 
I've never personally quit because I've never consumed tobacco but I wanted to wish you good luck! Also there's a product (in the states at least) called ZYN that has helped many people at work quit smoking. They're just little flavored pouches of nicotine you put in your mouth. No harmful chemicals at all except nicotine. No smoking, vaping, dipping, chewing, ect at all at work so I've seen many co-workers switch to ZYN and then quit over the course of a year or two.

Good luck!
Based on my own personal experience, Zyn works for the physical part of withdrawal, by supplying nicotine - the addictive compound, just in another form - absolutely no question whatsoever. What it doesn't even come close to touching is the "habit" part, which can be a deal-breaker. That's a stone bitch to try to cope with, and can be the end of a "quit smoking" attempt almost before it begins.

Zyn DOES NOT, in ANY way, do anything whatsoever as far as getting rid of the actual addiction - If you're going to use it as a "quit smoking" aid, great - With some fight to lose the "habit" part, it can and will work. As a "get off nicotine" aid, it's totally worthless, since it's just supplying the addictive substance through a different route - pure nicotine soaking into your lip, versus nicotine in a soup of other "stuff" that comes along with cigarette smoke being sucked into the lungs and soaked up there. Assuming someone managed to switch over to Zyn and get rid of the smoking habit, and hang in there long enough that the habit itself is safely assumed to be gone, just the addiction remains, congratulations! At least you're not sucking tobacco smoke to get it - might not be perfectly healthy, but at least it's not doing as much damage as the smoking would be. (It's been known for a fairly long time that *NICOTINE ALONE* is, aside from the risk of overdose, *NEARLY* as harmless as your typical tap water - the problems that come from smoking aren't from the nicotine, but the who-knows-what other crap that comes along with it when the source is burning tobacco)

To try to get away from the physical withdrawal from nicotine, other "aids" might need to be used - Look into "Lobeline" or "Lobelia" (the plant Lobeline is extracted from) - a compound that's similar enough to nicotine that it binds to the receptors that nicotine normally hits, blocking out nicotine, and for at least some people, partly relieving the classic "nicotine fit" symptoms. Downside of Lobeline, at least for me: Heartburn that *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* short of not using it will touch. Think of Lobeline as sort of like Methadone, only instead of helping get off heroin, it (at least sometimes) works for getting off nicotine. There are others that I can't think of at the moment, so you might try looking around for them.
 
i just looked into the zyn pouches and it really seems as just another way of getting nicotine and not getting over the addiction... there even is a red line about them not being a product for getting over addiction. still, if the pills or my will fails, it looks like a bit healthier way to get nicotine. they are available here for a pretty fair price (pretty much the same as what cigarettes cost).
 
ZYN isn’t a smoking cessation product, my co-workers just turned to it because they could not get their fix at work. For 12 hours at a time. They used it instead of smoking because there was no alternative. Then, over a year or more, most of them just ended up quitting smoking in their free time. Then quit ZYN. I guess the real “cessation product” was the company wide ban on smoking.

People who use it are just much more likely to actually quit smoking instead of getting in trouble and leaving the company because they got caught smoking in dark out of the way places.
 
i just looked into the zyn pouches and it really seems as just another way of getting nicotine and not getting over the addiction... there even is a red line about them not being a product for getting over addiction. still, if the pills or my will fails, it looks like a bit healthier way to get nicotine. they are available here for a pretty fair price (pretty much the same as what cigarettes cost).

A bit of advice from somebody who's tried and backslid many times: Use the Zyn! It's the closest I've come to succeeding so far. Was right on the verge of success, or so I thought, but some shit hit the fan, and like a damned fool, I sparked up a smoke, and that was basically the end of that attempt. Will probably give it another go in the near future, and that's gonna be how I start. Word of wisdom: Start with the "hottest" Zyn you can stand - I think that's still the 6 mg version. Flavor may or may not mean anything for you - personally, I found that the spearmint was best for me, though I actually liked the flavor of the coffee version better. (I'm a menthol smoker - 20-odd years of Kools, then when they started fucking with them in the late 90s to turn even "full-strength" into "lites", I jumped over to Newports and stuck with them or hand-rolls since) The spearmint tastes closer to menthol (not surprising, since spearmint flavoring is to menthol the same way beer is to vodka - exact same active chemistry, just at a lower concentration) which I crave ALMOST as strongly as I crave "a smoke".

The addiction part is bad enough all alone. It drives you like thirst. You can try to fight it, but the reality is that you're damned closed to guaranteed to fail. Add in the habit - The ritual of opening a pack, pulling out a butt, getting it lit, and all the other little movements and such that go with it - ESPECIALLY if it's of long standing, and trying to quit is right on the bleeding edge of impossible. The trick, or so I've decided (after many tries, and just as many fails, both cold-turkey mode, and with assistance (attempted switch to dip then step down, the various stop smoking pills and potions, etc) is to concentrate on killing EITHER the addiction OR the habit, but not both at once. Then, once one or the other is gone, worry about the other. Trying to fight both at once is like trying to take on 10 opponents in a cage-match, with every one of them gunning for YOU.

Use the Zyn to feed the addiction, but throw away the butts. Figure out something to do with your hands. You might think it funny, but maybe try taking up knitting or needlepoint. Something you can do with your hands/fingers that you *MUST* concentrate on to do AT ALL, never mind well. Lay in a supply of something to chew on - gum, jawbreakers, or even (don't laugh) wood/bamboo chopsticks. Worry about getting rid of the habit before trying to fight the addiction. Once you think you're sure you can beat down the "Damn, I need to light up a smoke!" urge, you've got it half beat. The head-peeper types will tell you that's gonna take about 90 days, give or take a week or two.

Once you get there - or at least, think you're there - drop back to the 3 (or is it 2?) mg Zyns. And be ready for the "fun"... One of the hazards of kicking nicotine that I can confirm for you is the ungodly weird dreams that come as part of the withdrawal process. Not *QUITE* hallucinations like you'd expect from Acid or 'Shrooms, but damn close. Stick with the "low-dose" version for at least 2-3 weeks, perhaps longer. Then worry about trying to do the "OK, I can have another one in an hour - no sooner" rationing thing. Keep on cutting back. Eventually, you're likely (I did) to get to a point where it's more habit than need when you put one in. Then see about squashing the habit part, and you just might have it licked.

And keep in mind: nicotine ALONE is VERY CLOSE to tapwater safe, aside from the risk of overdose and the addictive quality. If you can throw away the butts and maintain on Zyn, you're accomplishing nearly all of the benefits of outright quitting smoking.
 
Nicotine is your main problem. However your method of delivery is the direct response to the habit of the problem. You have a dependents on a substance which needs to be culled off, and you associate that with the method you get it from.
It’s probably why I vape now. Gum or the patch is not my method of delivery for nicotine. So I vape. Not as good as not taking it but better then the alternative. Besides I like nicotine along with caffeine. It’s the only stimulating things I can get without a doctor. If you can get off cigs and on something like gum or vape it’s one step closer to dare I say less damage to the body.
 
Yes, I quit more than 10 years ago.
I smoked heavily for 30 years before that, and failed many times to quit.
Nicotine patches worked for me, as well as having half a pack of smokes on the mantle as a safety blanket.
If the cravings were too much I would have a shower - Can't smoke in the shower ;)
Snacks or walking around the shops helps as well. ( Carrots were my go to snack )
I stayed active and tried to avoid social gatherings and peer pressure for the first month.
If you have JUST ONE, you'll need to start all over again.....Yeah, I did that a few times.
I found the 3rd day and 3rd week the hardest. Not sure why.
Hope this helps
 
smoked for 30 years, tried a few times without success.
Drs got me onto Champix tablets (for quiting smoking) and said just keep smoking but cut down as much as you feel comfortable each day, by the fourth week i was not feeling i needed to smoke and when lighting one didn't finish it by week six the smell repulsed me and i couldn't finish the pouch of tobacco i had, was a three month course of tablets, three years this November with out a smoke.
 
I may as well say I smoked a carton of cigs since I've been smoking for about 7 years. I was able to stop and switch to vape products which to me helped me slow down on smoking. Thought of doing those patches, or whatever products they have but never got it.
I don't use the gas station vape stuff anymore, and use the real kind. Vaping may not work for everyone, but that's what I used. You can always start out at a higher nicotine and work your way down. There's even some without it. Just gotta find the right places.
 
i smoke 30-40 a day and decided to quit. bought my (hopefully) last pack of cigs today and some pills that promise to help suppress nicotine withdrawal effects over 25 days... after that i'm supposed to be free, at least the little pamphlet that came with the pills promises that. my plan is to take both the pack and the pills to work with me tomorrow and try to live off the pills and only reaching for a cig if it gets unbearable... i'm fairly weak-willed when it comes to smoking, last time i tried to quit (without any medication) i lasted maybe 10 hours before feeling like shit.

there are loads of random sites dabbling into this. usually just in form of general pointers (some pretty dumb ones like "not smoking might help you die later!") or it's just an advertisement for some "100%, foolproof, it'd be like you never smoked!" crap that usually costs a ton as well. what i'm looking for is some advice from someone who went through this too and ended up really free of the shit. did you just stop and endured the withdrawal without help? or you found something that actually works?
Two packs a day for forty years....Ive been quit for 9 years next month. I tried many times, but it wasnt until I found "the girl" that I was motivated enough to make it stick. Chantix, no matter what you hear, works. Stick with it. The stories about dreams are nonsense. The only weird dreams I had were about my ex wife and b they were ONLY weird because in 28 years of being married to her, I NEVER dreamed about her. The stuff works wonders. I'll never go back...."The Girl" passed away about a year after I quit. Staying quit is her memorial. Good luck....you CAN do it
 
Hey! Step mom quit smoking, cold turkey a couple months ago now.
She'll smoke a joint now and then, but it's much better then the countless packs she'd smoke daily.
It's possible. Just have to believe in yourself and know that you're more then capable of doing it. No patches, nothing. It's nicotine, not heroin.
Maybe try the alternative for a while, try and balance yourself out on those days you crave it the most? Goodluck with your goals brotha.
 
well, it's now 12 hours (not that long period of time i know, but still a new record of my quitting attempts) since my last cigarette and i'm not really experiencing much withdrawal effects, just a very slight headache... maybe the worst is yet to come, maybe the pills work or maybe my will got better since my last attempt... there's maybe 4 cigarettes in the pack from yesterday left right here on the table in front of me and i don't even really feel like reaching for one and it feels kinda amazing. i emptied a very large xl pack of potato chips into a bowl and i'm eating them one by one to keep my hands occupied
 
It's nicotine, not heroin.

And there you see the words of someone who, simply by speaking them, proves that they don't have the first clue about the realities involved in what they're speaking of.
 
Hey! Step mom quit smoking, cold turkey a couple months ago now.
She'll smoke a joint now and then, but it's much better then the countless packs she'd smoke daily.
It's possible. Just have to believe in yourself and know that you're more then capable of doing it. No patches, nothing. It's nicotine, not heroin.
Maybe try the alternative for a while, try and balance yourself out on those days you crave it the most? Goodluck with your goals brotha.
Ain't heroin? No...its FAR WORSE. Obviously you've never been in either boat. And your stepmom isn't done with it,if shes still smoking ANYTHING. Shes just done what everybody does....fooled herself into thinking that joint isnt a substitute. "I can take it or leave it, and put them down whenever I like....uh huh...."
You with her all day every day?
I'll bet on the nicoteeeeen....
 
the thing i did to quit was make it hurt. First i weened off, got down to 3 cigarettes a day and then i tried to quit. Every time i wanted a smoke i bought a pack, grabbed 1 cig and then threw the rest away. I said that every cig is gonna cost me 7-9 bucks. After about 5 months and 2 grand later, i was able to stop. The financial pain helped me get past the physical withdraws.
And trust me, i needed that money, if ur wealthy, then this strategy wont work too well lol.
 
Ain't heroin? No...its FAR WORSE. Obviously you've never been in either boat. And your stepmom isn't done with it,if shes still smoking ANYTHING. Shes just done what everybody does....fooled herself into thinking that joint isnt a substitute. "I can take it or leave it, and put them down whenever I like....uh huh...."
You with her all day every day?
I'll bet on the nicoteeeeen....

On the up side, that joint ain't nearly as bad as a cigarette, and unlike the cigarette, it's dead-easy to walk away from a joint, since weed is a "Boy, I wanna - it'd go great with the show that's on tonight!", not a "Fuck! I gotta! If I don't, my head's gonna explode or something!" Latest I've heard is that the most impressive "withdrawal symptom" (If you can even call it that) from a weed "addiction" (if it can even be dignified with the term) that the research - such as it is to date - can offer is 2-3 nights of difficulty getting to sleep, followed by a week or so of sleeping in late.


But a whole couple of months without a butt, eh? Laughable. That's the kindest thing I can say. Cigs are worse than booze to get off of, and I can't count the number of alkies I've encountered who will tell you it's a daily struggle, even years after their last drink, to NOT take that next one. YEARS after she quit smoking, my mother used to go damn near batshit crazy from the cravings. When I spoke to her for the last time, a month or two before she died, one of her biggest complaints was that she wanted a smoke so bad she thought she was going to crawl out of her skin, and if she wasn't already in the hospital dying of what started out as ovarian cancer and turned into cancer-of-the-every-fucking-thing, she'd just say fuck it and start up again - "Why not? Nothing to lose except the damned cravings that have been driving me nuts for years!" was exactly how she put it. And that was more than 20 years after the last cigarette she smoked (that I know about, anyway)

All of which is said NOT with the intention of implying that trying to quit is a bad idea - Only that certain damned fools don't have a clue what they're talking about when they try to make it sound like it's anything even remotely approaching easy to do.
 
Its not whats in that joint..its the actual act of intake...like a dieter that gives up sugar for sweetnlow...it aint over. Addictions are just that....Behavior, chemical, method psychology, all play a part, and the part each plays varies from minute to minute
 
I did stop because I wanted to stop. Sadly seen people who can't even walk 15meters or even ride a bike because of the smoking have destroyed their lungs.

Don't hang around smokers and avoid exactly everything you associated whit smoking and it becomes a little easier but boring and maby hell depending on the person
 
I smoked when I was younger, to make me more "adult" I guess. But gave it up, cold turkey, maybe five years ago. Now, just to be sociable, after all the smokers have the best conversations, I vape non-nicotine, and hang out with the smokers. I don't like the smell of smokers, but the convo is always better for some weird reason!
 
i smoke 30-40 a day and decided to quit. bought my (hopefully) last pack of cigs today and some pills that promise to help suppress nicotine withdrawal effects over 25 days... after that i'm supposed to be free, at least the little pamphlet that came with the pills promises that. my plan is to take both the pack and the pills to work with me tomorrow and try to live off the pills and only reaching for a cig if it gets unbearable... i'm fairly weak-willed when it comes to smoking, last time i tried to quit (without any medication) i lasted maybe 10 hours before feeling like shit.

there are loads of random sites dabbling into this. usually just in form of general pointers (some pretty dumb ones like "not smoking might help you die later!") or it's just an advertisement for some "100%, foolproof, it'd be like you never smoked!" crap that usually costs a ton as well. what i'm looking for is some advice from someone who went through this too and ended up really free of the shit. did you just stop and endured the withdrawal without help? or you found something that actually works?
I did!

First, I just acknowledged that I liked cigarettes, and no matter how long I had spent off of the cigarettes, all that smoking "one little cigarette" was going to do was remind me of how much I liked cigarettes. I don't really need to explain that to a smoker. The very withdrawals were what made them satisfying. The withdrawals constituted a petty little problem that I could fix by lighting up a cigarette. It made all the other problems in my life seem a little bit smaller. People that have never smoked before or neurotic former smokers can make all of the rhetoric they want to, but the little cancer-sticks are actually delightful. Lying to myself about that was just not working.

Second, I took up jogging. I found out that I could get a little runner's high off of jogging, and I got kind of addicted to that. It was simple replacement. I am still in a place where if I take it easy and don't rush, I can sustain a slow, light jog for several miles without even breathing hard. If you asked me to actually run like I was trying to beat somebody there, I admit I would be huffing and turning purple like anyone, but that light and easy pace just above a fast walk is actually pretty comfortable. It is that little cradle I find right before I reach the point where I start breathing noticeably harder, and I can stay in that cradle almost indefinitely, except I might appreciate some epsom salt for my feet at the end of the day.

Third, I also started eating more in order to fuel my jogs. I could tell an almost immediate difference in how long I could keep running if I ate a little bit more. I would literally consume, through the ravenous singularity in my face, entire pots of macaroni and cheese with an entire stick of butter in them and some ketchup and some tobasco sauce, and I lost weight pretty fast because I was jogging like a maniac. It was cheaper than cigarettes, too.

Fourth, I sort of put it together in my head that the more I jogged, the more I could eat without getting those painful yeast infections that would appear under the fat rolls I used to have. I liked eating. I am like a dog. That's why I used to be flabby and get yeast infections. Therefore, I started running a calorie-ledger in my head as I jogged. I thought, if I could clear out just a few more calories by pushing out three extra miles and picking up the pace, then I could also set out that big wedge of cheese that I had sitting in my refrigerator and have that with some crackers and some bacon jam, and if I pressed out one more mile, I could go ahead and make that gumbo using the homemade roux I had had sitting in the ice-box for a while.

Or you can buy roux in a jar if you want to: https://www.amazon.com/SAVOIES-Old-Fashioned-Dark-Roux/dp/B007JB7ODY

If you can't get it shipped to your country, all you need is a big, heavy, thick-bottomed skillet that keeps a stable temperature, four cups of flour, and four cups of any kind of fat you want (vegetable oil will do, but some people use lard while others insist the only thing you ever ought to use is butter; it's up to you). You keep steadily stirring it at low-to-medium temperature for about an hour and a half, never quite letting it get hot enough to start smoking but keeping it just hot enough you get a pleasant toasty aroma. You know you are doing it right because you love the aroma that is coming up from it. If it seems a little thin, you can slowly add a little extra flour in pinches if you want to. It slowly browns up, and if you can get it to a dark brown (don't ever try to get a batch this size as brown as they tell you to for a gumbo because you can always brown it up a little more whenever you want to make a gumbo. If you brown it all the way, you can't use it for much besides a gumbo, but if you get it to where it looks like peanut butter, you have much more possibilities in how you use it), you can store it away in jars (let it cool first because the minute you get finished, it's a lot hotter than the temperature where water boils and might break the glass) and, over the next couple of months, scoop it out by spoonfuls and use it to spice up any soup. Once you have made it, it's instant gravy you can have anytime you want to. If you find that you use it often enough to run out, you can save time by making it in larger batches. Traditionally, it is meant for being used in a gumbo, but the stuff is really versatile. I even like to use it to spice up a stir-fry. I can cook shrimp in it. I can add it to a pasta sauce. I can even spread it in on toast because it's just some spicy butter if you get right down to it. I can warm it up with some cheese and dip nachos in it. Speaking of cheese, I have even added it to macaroni and cheese: traditionally, you are supposed to use a lighter color roux, but traditionally, you are not supposed to have sex with an animal. Once I have got a roux, the thing I use it for is whatever I want to use it for. I go to a lot of trouble in order to make it, so I am not going to let anyone else tell me what I am or am not allowed to do with it. The possibilities for it are really endless. Having a few jars of some good roux on-hand is power.

So what you do, assuming you decide to give yourself a jogging addiction, is while you are running, you keep a calorie ledger in your head. Do it knowing that the farther and the faster you can run, the more you can get yourself in touch with the spirit of the wolf and eat like one. Just keep that calorie ledger in your head, and think about how every additional calorie you can knock off gives you that much more of an excuse to eat. Be like a dog: show a sense of gratitude toward your food, and also show that you love doing something to earn it.

The beauty of jogging and also packing on calories you can burn during your jogs is that it's a double-addiction. You get addicted to the runner's high, and you get addicted to the food. You eat to run. You run to eat. Both of them get you high as a kite.

I am not complicated. Tell me I can eat, and I'll do just about anything. I like food and any excuse to have it.

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I'm sorry you're having a difficult time with this.
I've spoken to two people who used the patch successfully. The name brand, Nicoderm, is expensive, and they both used the "store brand" of the product. Far, FAR cheaper and no different at all. Nicotine content is the same. Instructions for use were identical, and the store brand also came in four different strengths, or stages, like Nicoderm. It is a WEANING program and both people said you MUST follow the instructions starting with step one and on down through the other stages TO THE LETTER, or it likely will not work.

They explained more:
Some people buy the first one, glance over the instructions, slap the patch on and say, "There. There's my nicotine. I'm done smoking."
When that one weakens, they slap on another patch, living in blissful ignorance that they have quit smoking...for now.
When the box runs out, and providing they still think they have found the answer, they buy another box. The same box. After a while, they do catch onto the fact that this really won't work. They abandon the patch method and proclaim, "The patch doesn't work!"
Well, of course not...not like that.

(I'm glad I also took a college course in addiction. My father caused me to do that.)

Important: The patch is NOT a nicotine substitute to replace cigarettes. Here's why: It is a full program, designed to wean you off of smoking! The product makes that very clear. Some people look at the cost and think one of two things:
"Oh yeah, they want you addicted to their product. You're their gold mine."
"Oh yeah, they want you going all the way through this, and they will make all that money."
IF you use it as directed, starting with step one, then to step two, etc, they actually intend to LOSE you as a customer because you have quit smoking. They are fine with that, because you will then tell others how well it works and the others will do it, too.

My disclaimer: I will admit that even if used as intended, not everything works for everyone.
There are some people for whom nothing will work.

A doctor told me he quit this way: he got rid of all his cigarettes, then when he got the urge for one, he drove to the store, bought a pack, lit one cigarette in front of the store and threw the pack away right there. Took just one long pull on the cigarette and threw THAT away and went home. Next urge, same thing. Says it's a little drastic for some, but works.
I hope I've helped a little. I wish you luck.
 
the pills (defumoxan) seem to work at least a bit.. i have no problem not smoking at work at all and i'm not really getting much cravings. then again, it's only day 3 and there still might be lots of nicotine in my system. at home it gets worse, there's lot of things i just grew accustomed to have a smoke with (like waiting for tea to be ready) and i'll admit i did have a smoke. cutting down from 30-40 a day to 1 or 2 feels like at least some progress... i hope i'll get to 0 over the next couple of weeks
 
I have a bit of an oral fixation, so the nicotine and regular mint gum really helped. If you go with the patch or a pill, it might also help to chew on toothpicks, straws, gum, and those kinds of things. Plus, the mint gum leaves your breath minty-fresh! :D Also, Dentyne and Trident are better for your gums and teeth than other gums (and, of course, cigarettes and chewing-tobacco).
 
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