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The irony is that in Australia, politically, the Liberals are the conservatives! The Labor party are the progressives. ?
Yes kinda America is the only place liberals are well “liberal“?…. most having Labour Party as the stick in the mud ?
 
The restraining that is causing a problem here for the most part is legs being tied together. That completely prevents any movement. Someone holding the ropes on the head or leading the horse around is ok as long as the animal has a normal degree of ability to move around, mount and dismount and step aside.
What you see in the removed porn though are front/hind legs bound together and head bound to a pole completely immobilizing the horse.
If you have to completely prevent movement of an animal to fuck it, what you are doing it rape and that will not be tolerated. Especially not when it can and is done better elsewhere.
Ok ok...so if I penetrate a horse anally...what's that? It's all a gray area. Consenting animals? Rape? U guys are experts. Problem is for normal society beastiality is Rape. U guys a very selective especially in arguements n rules. But I understand. I'm gonna go fuk my dogs ass n c if he likes it...ridiculous
 
Ok ok...so if I penetrate a horse anally...what's that? It's all a gray area. Consenting animals? Rape? U guys are experts. Problem is for normal society beastiality is Rape. U guys a very selective especially in arguements n rules. But I understand. I'm gonna go fuk my dogs ass n c if he likes it...ridiculous

What the fuck are you on about? Pes didn't say shit about anal in what you quote. It refers to binding the legs.

Yes animals can consent and even initiate.

Yes you can absolutely rape an animal if they don't want to continue or start, and you do. Which includes if you have to restrain them.

There is ALOT of anal content here, so idk wtf your problem is.
 
Ok ok...so if I penetrate a horse anally...what's that? It's all a gray area. Consenting animals? Rape? U guys are experts. Problem is for normal society beastiality is Rape. U guys a very selective especially in arguements n rules. But I understand. I'm gonna go fuk my dogs ass n c if he likes it...ridiculous
The rules are not going to change because you can not tell what is animal abuse. Most people do not have that problem. So you are going to have to educate yourself.
 
The rules are not going to change because you can not tell what is animal abuse. Most people do not have that problem. So you are going to have to educate yourself.
You guys are delusional. Beastiality is illegal....am I missing something? I know what abuse is.
 
What the fuck are you on about? Pes didn't say shit about anal in what you quote. It refers to binding the legs.

Yes animals can consent and even initiate.

Yes you can absolutely rape an animal if they don't want to continue or start, and you do. Which includes if you have to restrain them.

There is ALOT of anal content here, so idk wtf your problem is.
I have no prob. Just saying things can get mixed up or misunderstood very easily. To me it's silly when u say yay or nay. To the public's eyes it's all abuse. That's my fucking point.
 
I have no prob. Just saying things can get mixed up or misunderstood very easily. To me it's silly when u say yay or nay. To the public's eyes it's all abuse. That's my fucking point.
Sucks for you I guess. You get hot and bothered over that yogurt cum all over the horse girl videos don't ya?
 
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I Praise and Applaud this Fervently ?

I agree that there is sometimes a fine line as to what constitutes "abuse" and I also agree that what someone may consider abuse may not be to someone elses idealization.
If I may, I would like to throw some input out on here and perhaps it will be adopted as part of this rule as well as being thought provoking to those who may not see some acts or situations as abusive.

There was a time in my life where my "sexuality and preferences" came into question. Although many consider the entire thought of being Bestial or Zoo and the further idea that there are those who have and even prefer romantttic and deep sexual relations with other species, here is the one question that came up and subsequently "got me off" ( no pun intended, lol ).

Q: Was my partner in the act being harmed, malnourished or mistreated in any way, including being restrained in such a way that she couldn't get away had she desired?

The short and simple -- NO, she was not in harm's way nor mistreated in any way by any means.

Therefore, due to my understanding of True Real Love and due to the fact that Many species can reciprocate that same type of love and still, many species can initiate, encourage, and consent to intimacy... a loving heart and Common Sense were the best defense from the beginning.

Love, Passion, and Intimacy require a level of emotion and feeling that goes deeper than just simple touch or immediate gratification. Sure, in the human world, there are "kinks" such as sadism, masochism, object fetish, and so on, but... Kins are just what they are and do require a form of consent that - in general - four footed beings simply do not know and therefore do not incorporate into their lives.
So, here is my list of "Please Don't s" in order to not only show your mate you love them, but it also shows - without a doubt - that love and sexual relationships Can and Do exist between humans and other species and don't require "training", "aids (peanut butter, grain, etc.)", and can be of mutual consent.

I personally (and in the legal eye as well) consider most if bot all the following, forms of abuse ... (weird thing though, the legal field attempts to call the sexual act abuse, lol - but if you can prove there was No Harm Done, you can further prove Our sex is the same sex in All Mammals).

1. Tying, Hobbling, etc. - For Heavens Sake and for your mate - Restraing them in a way that they cannot move away from your advances is akin to "rape". Although a leash or rein is ok just for public safety and to be led around... Please, don't tie them in a way that they cant "say no".

2. Enticement - food or treats should only be used because you love them and want them to have a gift they like. Treats can also be used as rewards, but ... using treats or enticing things to "Make them stand, lick, etc.", can be considered an abuse - except in way of purely oral sex - providing you can prove oral sex would be performed in lieu of a treat.

3. Withholding food or water for Any reason.

4. Using an object such as a dildo or "stretching" aid or using objects that can bring pain or harm... No, No, No.

5. Inflicting Pain, drawing blood, displays of anger, rage, or yelling to intimidate or otherwise frighten into submission - Big No No

6. Drugging - Have you ever heard of Date Rape? Then Don't Do It.

So... I am guessing there could be many more things that "could be" considered abuse but.... As I was told by both a psychologist and lawyer... As long as she (my partner) was of legal age, of size and weight to be able to comfortably withstand sexual acts, and was not tied up or restrained. As long as she was displaying consent by accepting the act and - upon my advances - did not bite at me, kick at me, or otherwise try to get away. And as long as she was in good care and health and I could present a veterinary clean bill of health (which also had to show testing for STDs and Zoonotic STD tests), and as long as my partner was "legally of sexually mature age" ... ......
Well, they had no choice but to dismiss everything.
Wow, you summed this up perfectly. I dont think there is any points I disagree with here. I'd include A N A L onto point numver 4. As that doesnt happeb naturally in the wild... where as getting knotted, and putting dicks in holes designed for them are
 
OK, I'm billing you for the charges to recover my jaw from where it dropped in amazement upon seeing even the slightest evidence that there's another American besides me around who actually comprehends that concept! And all these years, I've been afraid I was the last of a dying breed...
Lol. Sorry about your jaw. Can I help you pick it up? Maybe I can help you with something else? ?
 
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Ok ok...so if I penetrate a horse anally...what's that? It's all a gray area. Consenting animals? Rape? U guys are experts. Problem is for normal society beastiality is Rape. U guys a very selective especially in arguements n rules. But I understand. I'm gonna go fuk my dogs ass n c if he likes it...ridiculous
Within the parameters of zooville and the larger BEASTY world, bubba, what makes YOU think WE care an iota about what the mundane world thinks? Their, and apparently your, definitions of anything here have next to no basis. If you don't like the basic stance we take, the exit is over there>>>>>>>>>

Don't let the door hit you where Mother Nature split you.
 
You guys are delusional. Beastiality is illegal....am I missing something? I know what abuse is.
Drugs are illegal, and those stupid enough to do them deserve to die, but that doesn't stop the world from being up in arms over the new synthetic drugs being mixed in causing ODs.

Even illegal activities have boundaries.
 
Thank you for rehashing what was already said, but in more words.
There are ridiculous numbers of people in this world who think they have something to say when a thought occurs to them. They usually dont realize that their "thought" came from something heard or read, so they get the?over their? and post it. Whereupon all of the more original thinkers do an ?
and groan.

This particular turkey cant fly....so hes been on my ignore list since he showed up Monday....I think he MIGHT be related to Spiro Agnew....but that just adds to his troubles.
 
Yikes, heated conversation. Just because something falls under an "illegal" umbrella of zoo, doesn't mean that anything goes. There are still ethical principles that need to considered. For example, when homosexuality was illegal in much of the Western world, it wouldn't be appropriate to say "oh well, being gay is illegal, therefore I may as well rape someone".
 
Yikes, heated conversation. Just because something falls under an "illegal" umbrella of zoo, doesn't mean that anything goes. There are still ethical principles that need to considered. For example, when homosexuality was illegal in much of the Western world, it wouldn't be appropriate to say "oh well, being gay is illegal, therefore I may as well rape someone".
Well said
 
Yikes, heated conversation. Just because something falls under an "illegal" umbrella of zoo, doesn't mean that anything goes. There are still ethical principles that need to considered. For example, when homosexuality was illegal in much of the Western world, it wouldn't be appropriate to say "oh well, being gay is illegal, therefore I may as well rape someone".
Nobody is saying that though. "Yikes" false equivalency Batman!
 
Everyone has varying opinions on the definition of Grey - there's probably more than 50 shades - in the same way people have opinions on religion, morality and even laws. In this particular situation, the moderators are the ones who define what is acceptable and what isn't. It's their website and there is an implicit contract whereby anyone using the website agrees that we play by their rules. If you don't agree, they have repeatedly stated, you can contact the moderator and if you don't like it, you can leave - simples.
Absolutely this.

I've stated as much before.

There will always be differing opinions, but a clear line needs to be drawn in the sand, and not all will agree with where that line is drawn. Some (if not many) want no line at all, but those wanting no line are also the ones that make the good side of the community look bad, and make it that much more difficult for the rest of us.

I've seen a lot of good people here and I don't want anything bad to happen to them or myself.

To that end, we absolutely have to weed out the trash or we will burn with it sooner or later.
 
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