Do you not condone relationships between human and non-human animals because of your morals/ethics or because it’s illegal where you reside? In what context are you basing your argument? If by procreation that rules out many human-on-human relationships, but does not rule out heterosexual relationships between those in the family Hominidae where hybridization is theoretical. If it’s about communication that brings up the cognitive argument (can someone with Down‘s marry someone who doesn’t have it, can neurodivergent individuals marry neurotypical individuals?). There are ideological reasons to argue for or against zoophilia either partially or fully, but you have to have a foundation for your argument first in order to debate the topic. Ethics is all over this topic, best example being if a man bought a chicken should he be allowed to have sex with it first before he kills it, cooks it and eat it? if you say no, why not? It’s his chicken after all. He can do what he wants with it. There are many approaches as to why that scenario is inappropriate. I’m safe to assume most on here would take the side of if you fuck chickens then don’t kill them, or if you eat chicken don’t fuck them. It’s disrespectful to kill and eat someone after having sex with them. Though it happens even to humans on rare occasions. So where’s your stance? You mentioned about being horrified about your attractions? Is that because of the stigma? That’s how many homosexual and bisexual individuals felt when sodomy laws were in full swing. That’s how many marijuana users feel as federal drug laws perpetuate marijuana prohibition. So don’t let law and culture bully you just be safe and responsible. I know that’s easier for me to say given my sexual proclivities remain within the family Hominidae which is a little more socially acceptable, but still grosses most humans out and would get me sent to prison if I acted upon it in most Western countries. I know media does not help. All the bestiality shown in shows and movies between non-human animals and extraterrestrials and fantasy creatures don’t help at all. It exists in everything from Lord of the Rings to Harry Potter, and Futurama to BoJack Horseman. The furry community enables these proclivities while rejecting any association with us. Which has less to do with morality and ethics and more to do about image. I understand these feelings are confusing and you’re probably afraid of being found out or paranoia about the law even if you don’t practice anything illegal. That’s just the nature of the beast. Just make sure to have a foundation for your argument first before creating a new thread.
“Do you not condone relationships between human and non-human animals because of your morals/ethics or because it’s illegal where you reside?“
I gave this question some good thought and ultimately decided that it’s based on my morals. Unless someone can prove that there’s another animal on earth that’s cognitively self-aware enough to make decisions on their own, and able to communicate to ensure that there’s clear and well-minded consent on both sides, then I’ll just believe that any action of zoophilia or bestiality is taking advantage of another creature. Every species has its own way of processing the world, different senses, etc. Yeah, there’s a general understanding of what’s good and what’s bad, but it’s still a different consensus of how the world works, and meaningless to try to find an understanding between two species that would matter, when trying to find sexual consent. Whichever way you go about it, it’s metaphysically imposing our human perceptions onto something that isn’t. Also, there’s a whole power imbalance thing you might never get around.
“In what context are you basing your argument?“
From some moral philosophy that helped me shape my ideas. Namely ideas of Kant, there was a video that helped communicate my ideas more thoroughly.
I can’t answer the questions on neurodivergency because I have not looked into those conditions specifically, and don’t currently find it necessary. Though I will if it’s recommended.
And no, a man shouldn’t have sex with the chicken beforehand. For me, it’s tough enough for me to kill a chicken, but it’s my important food source, and so I’d want to treat it with respect and make the kill as painless as I can. I’d hope for some level of respect of another life from others. And insertion is already painful for chickens, from a human. Even if the chicken somehow seemed to be big enough and willing, I wouldn’t support that.
I was afraid, and still a bit am, because I feel ashamed that I have some semblance of arousal. But that doesn’t go far, that that’s similar to how many others feel, and the more I understand my view of this morally, the more I view animals as simply animals. Simply other creatures on the earth, and I wouldn’t want them to be taken advantage of.
(Also, I came back on here because I couldn’t figure out if zoophiles see other animals as equal or good enough for cognitive self-awareness. But I think I’ll only get the answer equal. Why is another question though.)
