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Why is coming out so important to you?

The most I do is wear a collar during Pride and people think it is a sex thing, and I have a paw print tattooed on my left hip because of Shady. I will never tell anyone else about it, that is what this forum is for.

Like fuck, we as humans are still not over homosexuality, you think we will be accepting Beast openly to family? I'm not taking the risk to destroy my love and my life because I need to tell someone who's dick has been inside me.
 
Kaksoipistededede said:
Hello folks,
i have read some threads about coming out to friends and family about your zoophile desires.
I don't understand why it is so important to you and want to know why you feel the need to come out.
For me, most things regarding sex are private affairs between me and my sexual partners.
Maybe we can find some points to help us for keeping quiet, because it's potentially very dangerous to come out.

Why is coming out to friends and family so important for you, despite all the potential negative outcomes?
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In order to avoid even more negative outcomes later. The problem is that if you don't tell the people you are growing close to, then you end up with a lot of yourself invested in them, so if it ever leaked somehow that you were a zoophile, then it could shatter that entire investment. Many of us prefer to avoid getting invested in people before all potential complications have been gotten out of the way. For many of us, this especially includes romantic partners.
 
To be honest and respectful with other people and oneself.

Mind that there may be a difference between those for whom it is just a kink and those for whom it is about their significant other. One's kinks really aren't anyone's business and it's not a big deal to keep secret which porn you masturbate to. Hiding who the love of your life is from family and friends is a bigger issue.
 
No one should come out to ANYONE. Do you hear me? No one!
Get together your wildest, hottest, sluttiest, nastiest, craziest, horniest, do-anything-anytime, closest lifetime friends, then mention zoo and they will call you the sickest person on earth.
Not worth it. Keep it to yourself so you can enjoy it.
 
Kristy said:
No one should come out to ANYONE. Do you hear me? No one!
Get together your wildest, hottest, sluttiest, nastiest, craziest, horniest, do-anything-anytime, closest lifetime friends, then mention zoo and they will call you the sickest person on earth.
Not worth it. Keep it to yourself so you can enjoy it.
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History would prove you correct
 
Ruben said:
To be honest and respectful with other people and oneself.

Mind that there may be a difference between those for whom it is just a kink and those for whom it is about their significant other. One's kinks really aren't anyone's business and it's not a big deal to keep secret which porn you masturbate to. Hiding who the love of your life is from family and friends is a bigger issue.
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not really an issue (well, when i got over it eventually anyway)... i most likely wouldn't have a family or friends now if they knew he was so much more than "just a dog" and it does hurt from time to time, but it's just how life is for "us". the most important part is what he was to me, not anybody else.
 
If only Zoos could have the same dignity but it’s just sadly not the way. Only two family members know of my relations with my 4-legged friends. I am finally happy to be living in a relationship with my boy. Took a long time to get to this place where I accept my life and love for dogs.
 
Gunslinger1X said:
I need to put Rebel on Tinder
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I'd swipe right

Kristy said:
Yes, more stuff, but it doesn't work that way with zoo stuff. Your closest friends will hate you for it, and you'll never see them again.
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Sorry, but I think that's bullshit. Most people are capable of accepting it. Just don't tell too much about the physical acts you do (or don't do) with the animals.

Zoomex said:
[...] I am finally happy to be living in a relationship with my boy. Took a long time to get to this place where I accept my life and love for dogs.
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I feel you on that and am happy that you reached that state!
 
I haven't come out to anyone yet but I would like to....it's not that it's important really it's more of when you have these amazing experiences.....when you share that deep loving bond with a dog .....you feel so damn good that you just wanna tell someone about it.....and if they happen to be zoo then there is that potential they know the exact feeling your going through which just makes talking about it deepen the bond with them as well whether it's friendship or otherwise.
 
That is just how I felt. I was so in love with my mare...just like anyone in love...makes you kinda crazy. It is very hard to temper it. I soon found out that non zoos do not get it...before it was sooooo illegal...it was only a thing to tolerate. But now....it is a crime....just for our love with another species. For many years in Germany it was not against the law unless you hurt an animal. Then the animal rights groups started stirring things up...more on the internet....zoo tourism...all countries had to shut it down. I wish they tempered things...so now... that is a huge thing when you contemplate telling someone.
Sometimes I have been so hurt...felt so alone...depressed..cry over lost loves...
And then pull myself together, go on. It is something we deal with every day of our lives. And yes it hurts...I am almost 70...been dealing with it all my life...since as long as I can remember. Now after going through full circle...with telling friends and family...really not changing much...I just want to live my life as quietly as I can.
 
Bayboyhorse said:
For many years in Germany it was not against the law unless you hurt an animal. Then the animal rights groups started stirring things up...more on the internet....zoo tourism...all countries had to shut it down. I wish they tempered things...so now... that is a huge thing when you contemplate telling someone.
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... and then zoos complained against the new law at the constitutional court and then the court explained in their rejection of the complaint that sex with animals is only forbidden, if the animal is physically or comparably forced. That restriction has been in the law from the beginning on, by the way, it's just that the law itself is written so ambiguously that a layman doesn't know whether it claims that all sex with animals would always be forced and hence forbidden or that sex is only forbidden, if it happens to be forced.

Those legal details are probably not worth discussing when you open up about your feelings to someone. That's a very personal thing, not a trial and not a lecture. But maybe it still gives you some inner peace to know that unforced sex with animals is legal here. May your life be as quiet and pleasant as you wish.
 
I've only shared that with my most close people. I don't think it's anyone else's business and I don't think I will ever share it with anyone else.

1.My best friend, we know each other since 8-9 years old. We are 25-26 now.
2.My GF of 6+ years. We know each other for around 8 years.

Now to your question, as to why was coming out so important. - After the stories I shared below, overall my mental wellbeing and happiness increased tenfold since I came out and now am able to speak about that side of me with my closest people. We are social creatures and I think that having such a huge part of me hidden from my close people for life would just make me go nuts over time.

As for him, knowing him so good and being able to talk with him about absolutely everything, and since he is a very open-minded person, I decided that having my closest friend knowing about such a huge part of my life is crucial to myself. Yes I felt some risk when coming out to him, but I knew that such strong and long friendships can't be shaken by almost nothing, let alone something that doesn't even impact him at all.

As for her, since we have been living together for around 3 years, and we are planning for kids soon, I really decided that it is better to confess my true self to her instead of building a family on lies. It may be the fact that my parents got divorced shortly after I was born that I find it absolutely mandatory to have a strong and secure relationship before going to the kids step. I preferred she rejecting and leaving me instead of her finding out about my zoo side years later and go through divorces and making my kids life a hell. Luck was on my side and she accepted me as who I am. Our relationship currently is stronger than ever.



But I agree that coming out to almost every one that is remotely close to you/family member cuz you have nothing better to do is just an unnecessary headache.
 
Any logical person would tell it only to a other zoo person.

Any emotional person would tell it to everyone and hope for a best outcome trying to explain others why they are wrong - good luck, it's like trying to change a belief of a zealot explaining him that he is wrong and in a same time hoping he would not tell anyone else so you end up in prison (it's like telling your boss he is wrong and hoping to not get fired).
I lived (actively) as a zoo for longer than some have lived here, and telling not a single soul.
Can't say it's not lonely like that but I'm not in prison or hanging from a lamppost.
Loneliness is the reason I started communicating recently but I still have at least DEFCON 2 in my head and I try not to be stupid about it.

For a retrospect - I think I helped quite a lot of people in my life and have friends and exc. I would guarantee for most of them that they would help me if I call them today and say I need something in 0:00 h without even explaining why - they would just do it (I'm sure of that).
Now, if that same people knew my little "side story" I'm quite sure they wouldn't bother with me at all, and they would not care how much I helped them and they would not even feel obligated to me any more in any way - that is the sad reality but it's a reality.

That's how I see things.
 
KurodaMiharu said:
I could never come out to my family being a zoo. It's going to be hard enough coming out as trans. I would never let them know I'm into incestuous relationships neither.
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I lost my whole life and family when I came out as trans luckily I found new friends and a new family but could never come out as zoo
 
RR711 said:
Any logical person would tell it only to a other zoo person.

Any emotional person would tell it to everyone and hope for a best outcome trying to explain others why they are wrong - good luck, it's like trying to change a belief of a zealot explaining him that he is wrong and in a same time hoping he would not tell anyone else so you end up in prison (it's like telling your boss he is wrong and hoping to not get fired).
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You see things way too black or white. Obviously sharing such things to a known ''zealot'' is a dumb idea.

I've shared it with my closest friend, he seemed to have no idea that zoophilia existed. Then he joked about it and we have since talked about all that in details. He's totally fine with it and thinks that my private sexual life is none of other people's business.
I've shared it with my GF, who initially had a, I quote "All zoos should be shot" mindset. Now that she knows and has accepted me and talked with me about it with hours and hours, she has a totally different mindset about zoophiles, since she understood that a guy she adores and loves and knows is a good person in general, is a zoo. That showed her that we are not different than most people out there.

I'm also not a fan of outing here and there, I think only the most loyal and close people to you should know, and even then ONLY if they are open-minded, but your stance is a bit too radical.




RR711 said:
For a retrospect - I think I helped quite a lot of people in my life and have friends and exc. I would guarantee for most of them that they would help me if I call them today and say I need something in 0:00 h without even explaining why - they would just do it (I'm sure of that).
Now, if that same people knew my little "side story" I'm quite sure they wouldn't bother with me at all, and they would not care how much I helped them and they would not even feel obligated to me any more in any way - that is the sad reality but it's a reality.

That's how I see things.
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If these people are so close to you as you are saying, and are open-minded, they would accept you as who you are.

I think that people underestimate true and loyal friendships. If someone would trust you about everything, and they know you for a very long time, and would do anything for you, like you would do for them, what makes you think that such a person would not accept that you have a different sexuality than his/hers?
 
itdoesnotmatter said:
I think that people underestimate true and loyal friendships. If someone would trust you about everything, and they know you for a very long time, and would do anything for you, like you would do for them, what makes you think that such a person would not accept that you have a different sexuality than his/hers?
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Because I know, I'm not naive (not saying that you are for your part of the world but for mine you would be)
You don't (probably) live where I do, so I'm glad that you can talk to people as you say you do (even if they are family and friends) and not pressured to be so black/white.
Where I live people function in terms you are with us or against us - not so much middle.
 
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