Whats wrong with me? Please help

[HKFYJGGG]

I have been exploring my sexuality in terms of zoo for about a year now. I am still struggling with it and need some advice.

I go through periods of time where I believe I'm not interested in animals whatsoever.. sometimes they truly just dont seem to appeal to me. I partly wonder if this is simply just due to me feeling guilty of being this way and knowing I'll have to keep it to myself for pretty much the rest of my life (besides people actively within the community already. ) I suppose a part of me doesnt want to feel like I'm lying to my friends if I'm zoo and they dont know about it so I try and push it out of my mind.

Now that that's out of the way. In the end, I always seem to have my zoo feelings come back. I go through periods where I am extremely attracted to animals. I realize that I dont view dogs as "sexy" in the same way I view human females but I am more so attracted to their loyalty, the idea of being a pack leader, the idea of the companionship and pleasing each other in the comfort of our own home. This excites me to no end and I at times feel like I may actually prefer animals over humans.

But when I try and watch porn. (Doesnt matter if its zoo or human) all my zoo feelings and "acceptance" seem to "go away" after I cum. I try and "hold on" to my zoo feelings because i get so tired of not knowing who i am but guilt always seems to get to me in the end and I'm back to feeling like I have to "discard" this aspect of myself. I feel more myself when I seem to be more accepting of being zoo.

I notice that whenever I abstain from masturbation my zoo feelings seem to actually remain. Its only when I am finished do my feelings go away.

Is there something wrong with me? I wouldn't say I am only "just into beasitality". I really do believe I'm zoo because I love the idea of having a doggy girlfriend and caring for each other. I don't just want sex. I just dont know how to get myself accepting of this fact and knowing that it's okay to keep this side of myself to MYSELF and that theres no reason to feel guilty.

 

[AGoodK9]

To be honest dude, I have the same kind of feelings. The thing is though, after I finish myself off, it's more of just the guilt of never knowing if the animal in the video is truly being treated right. But hey here's what I told myself: I'll get a dog in the future, and I will love her to no end. If I get flagged and am forced to make a decision, we'll see what happens from there. Dont ponder on it too much. If you end up having a more physically intimate relationship with your companion later down the line, then you have a more physically intimate relationship. If you dont, then you could just stick to cuddles, foreplay to satisfy her, or kissing. Sex doesn't NEED to be included, and frankly neither do any of the other options I listed.

In summary, if it happens, it happens, and until it happens you wont know what decision your future self will make. Hope this helps!

 

[KennelTrainer]

Guilt. Is anyone being hurt? No. Stop feeling guilty about it.

 

[HKFYJGGG]

Guilt. Is anyone being hurt? No. Stop feeling guilty about it.

Do you think I should feel a need to tell my friends even if they are a "best friend"? Do I tell them that I am a zoo and shit? Honestly I'd rather just keep it to myself just to be completely safe. I just dont like feeling like I'm not being genuine with my friends. Especially if they make jokes about beasality and stuff.

 

[AGoodK9]

As long as you're true to yourself and reflect on yourself honestly, you'll be a good partner for a dog. (Given that you assert yourself as pack's alpha with good leadership)

ah. Not to throw the post off topic, but dogs do not have this pack complex with alpha/beta positions. The scientists who originally released that study are still trying to apologize for its inaccuracy to this day. The reason they dont have that alpha/beta mentality anymore is because its been approximately 25,000 years since we started breeding dogs, and the dogs happened to lose the alpha/beta complex because guess which dogs had more personality and bonded more? The ones who didnt have that hierarchy gene, thus they were bred more to be loving and devoted instead of mindless robots that followed your orders, but would leap on you the second they had the opportunity to overtake your alpha position.

Please do not spread this false information. Many dogs end up having disconnected relationships with owners because of it and it depersonalizes the animal as if they were some mindless, thoughtless organism.

 

[ElGee]

Don't let it freak you out. A lot happens inside of a guy when he ejaculates. I have certain kinks (all legal, consensual and non-animal) that drive me nuts. When participating in these, when I eventually ejaculate I want the kinks to be over and it's time to move on. After some time I'm happy to participate again. It's not unlike the generalization that says after a man has sex that he just wants to lay still. That's the way I'm wired. For me sex is a very powerful thing and it's just my body and mind reacting to it.

edits: remove and clarify unintended poorly-worded thoughts

 

[KennelTrainer]

Do you think I should feel a need to tell my friends even if they are a "best friend"? Do I tell them that I am a zoo and shit? Honestly I'd rather just keep it to myself just to be completely safe. I just dont like feeling like I'm not being genuine with my friends. Especially if they make jokes about beasality and stuff.

I didn't say you need to invite everyone in on it. Just stop feeling guilty about it.

 

[HKFYJGGG]

I didn't say you need to invite everyone in on it. Just stop feeling guilty about it.

And I didnt say you said that heh. Thank you for your words because they really do mean a lot to me and stuff. Are you zoo or just into beastality ?

 

[Flying Dutchman]

That's the echo of the "taboos" of "the others" with their silly points of view laid up on us these Calvinistic people. They simply don't know what they are missing. So stop feeling guilty, it's PERFECTLY NATURAL to have a sweet sexy relationship with an animal! ????

 

[Katroska99]

Maybe I had the same problem from time to time even decades ago... but hack, when some girl pisses me off? -. - I send her message on her phone (how beautiful girl sucks red dog knot) and that's it... If this helps you? No need to thank me jp some guys respects me because of that others hates but eventually? I can't and I don't want to change 

Anyway? It's like borg assimilation and? If girls can suck that beautiful red knot? I accept love like that and period.

 

[DanChrist]

Sounds to me that you have not accepted yourself all of the way and that is perfectly okay. I think we all went through that phase at first. The second phase is the one of feeling like an outsider. Unfortunately, that phase is going to stick around for a while. What has helped me are forums like this where I am not alone. I was never active on Beastforum but I have been very vocal here in Zooville, and I have never been healthier in regards to my self-confidence. You are obviously attracted to both women and animals; embrace it.

No, you are not going to be able to tell anyone about this. The good news is that there are so many Zoos in denial that it is not even funny. Look for girls who do volunteer work at the local animal shelters. Also, learn a few bestiality jokes; its a good way to test the waters. If you have the resources then buy a big dog and take him for walks if a girl comes up to you and compliments the size of his balls as she laughs then that is a good sign. Just laugh and say, "I'm sure he wouldn't mind if you touched them. All males enjoy that."

It is not as bad as it seems. Relax.

 

[Katroska99]

anyway you make me laugh thanks for that... Yes people who don't get wet because of his red knot? They don't know and they can't understand us so I'm glad to find ya all here

 

[Wolfia]

Do you think I should feel a need to tell my friends even if they are a "best friend"? Do I tell them that I am a zoo and shit? Honestly I'd rather just keep it to myself just to be completely safe. I just dont like feeling like I'm not being genuine with my friends. Especially if they make jokes about beasality and stuff.

Yeah, no, don't. You'll be that weird guy who confessed to being zoo to his friends who joke about animal sex plus you might get ridiculed to no end and ghosted.

I go through periods where I am extremely attracted to animals. I realize that I dont view dogs as "sexy" in the same way I view human females but I am more so attracted to their loyalty, the idea of being a pack leader, the idea of the companionship and pleasing each other in the comfort of our own home. This excites me to no end and I at times feel like I may actually prefer animals over humans.

This tells you everything! Zoophilia is crap and the only thing youll get from forcing that idiotic "zoo" label on yourself is just that. An idiotic label attached to a community that favors group think over individuality. Your mind isn't rejecting animal lust. It's rejecting zoophilia. Why would you choose to appeal to a community that wants to be the + in LGBTQ+ instead of embracing your urges and ending up with a k9 girlfriend and loving doggies?

Your idea of a pack is how my husband and I run our home. He is the alpha, i am his female and the 'pack' are allowed to breed me. It's also just that, an idea to prevent mishaps. Dogs arent pack animals like wolves but the last thing I want is 4 massive intact dogs wanting to claim ownership of me, or one of them to think I belong to him and growl at my husband lol.

It doesnt matter if youre horny for animals one day, horny for women the next day, horny for both the following day and not horny at all for the next few days after that. Guys go through phases and have to rest in between. What matters is your idea of a perfect relationship. I'm living your perfect idea in context and am super fortunate. This alone should speak volumes!

 

[DanChrist]

Yeah, no, don't. You'll be that weird guy who confessed to being zoo to his friends who joke about animal sex plus you might get ridiculed to no end and ghosted.



This tells you everything! Zoophilia is crap and the only thing youll get from forcing that idiotic "zoo" label on yourself is just that. An idiotic label attached to a community that favors group think over individuality. Your mind isn't rejecting animal lust. It's rejecting zoophilia. Why would you choose to appeal to a community that wants to be the + in LGBTQ+ instead of embracing your urges and ending up with a k9 girlfriend and loving doggies?

Your idea of a pack is how my husband and I run our home. He is the alpha, i am his female and the 'pack' are allowed to breed me. It's also just that, an idea to prevent mishaps. Dogs arent pack animals like wolves but the last thing I want is 4 massive intact dogs wanting to claim ownership of me, or one of them to think I belong to him and growl at my husband lol.

It doesnt matter if youre horny for animals one day, horny for women the next day, horny for both the following day and not horny at all for the next few days after that. Guys go through phases and have to rest in between. What matters is your idea of a perfect relationship. I'm living your perfect idea in context and am super fortunate. This alone should speak volumes!

You got that right, I don't know why there are so many members here that so desperately want to be in that LGBTQPXYZ123. I have had members of that group spit in my face. Not all of us identify with them. Let's just be ourselves.

 

[Wolfia]

You got that right, I don't know why there are so many members here that so desperately want to be in that LGBTQPXYZ123. I have had members of that group spit in my face. Not all of us identify with them. Let's just be ourselves.

I don't blame them. The '+' doesn't mean "zoophilia friendly" which is why the real lgbtq+ rejected zoos and bestiality sex.

 

[DanChrist]

I don't blame them. The '+' doesn't mean "zoophilia friendly" which is why the real lgbtq+ rejected zoos and bestiality sex.

I know it. All the more reason why I am baffled by people in our ranks who want to join them. There are so many differences between us and them. Many of them have made it clear that they don't like us. I have noticed that many of the LGBT love coming out and telling the whole world that they are gay. I have noticed that by contrast many people in the Zoo (for lack of a better word) community are very reclusive and do not want their private life exposed. I see gay people having parades in broad daylight and I simply cannot relate to that. I just want us to have special night clubs to call our own. Plus, it is hard for me to want to associate with them when I have had friends who have had lesbians pull a knife out on them in a bar and I know guys who had to quit their jobs because of sexual harassment by gay men. I am not a homophobe but it is hard for me to side with them when I see all the differences. I understand why many of them do not accept us.

 

[Flying Dutchman]

anyway you make me laugh thanks for that... Yes people who don't get wet because of his red knot? They don't know and they can't understand us so I'm glad to find ya all here

You're very sweet, Katroska!?????

 

[Wolfia]

I know it. All the more reason why I am baffled by people in our ranks who want to join them. There are so many differences between us and them. Many of them have made it clear that they don't like us.

I don't blame them because I don't like modern male zoos either.

I have noticed that many of the LGBT love coming out and telling the whole world that they are gay. I have noticed that by contrast many people in the Zoo (for lack of a better word) community are very reclusive and do not want their private life exposed.

I love the arrogant sarcasm that comes from privileged male victims. I sometimes wish I could be a man in this male dominated society for 1 day so I could complain about people not accepting my illegal sexual attraction for animals then demand sympathy. It must feel amazing to suffer no consequences other than being ghosted after coming out as zoo. Omg and I also want to mansplain things to k9 women such as what it's really like to be oppressed for having sex with male animals!

I see gay people having parades in broad daylight and I simply cannot relate to that. I just want us to have special night clubs to call our own. Plus, it is hard for me to want to associate with them when I have had friends who have had lesbians pull a knife out on them in a bar and I know guys who had to quit their jobs because of sexual harassment by gay men.
I am not a homophobe but it is hard for me to side with them when I see all the differences. I understand why many of them do not accept us.

My favorite difference is that gay sex is legal whereas men forcing gay sex on a male animal is illegal. Your post is enough for me to support keeping this sexual activity illegal because animals shouldn't be sexually exploited just so guys like you can feel special for being part of a group think community.

 

[DanChrist]

I love the arrogant sarcasm that comes from privileged male victims. I sometimes wish I could be a man in this male-dominated society for 1 day so I could complain about people not accepting my illegal sexual attraction for animals then demand sympathy. It must feel amazing to suffer no consequences other than being ghosted after coming out as zoo. Omg and I also want to mansplain things to k9 women such as what it's really like to be oppressed for having sex with male animals!

Oh wow! Spoken like a typical angry feminist. You should reevaluate your entire stance on group-think mentality because you are definitely the product of it. Talk about fulfilling a stereotype, your type is so common that you practically come off of an assembly line. I love how you assume that I sexually exploit animals, when in fact, I do not; I just date women that are into it.

I know very few males that are privileged. Ask any man that has been through a divorce. No, we live in a female-dominated society.

 

[Jbeansi]

Uhh.....so back on topic here. OP doesn't seem weird at all to me. I'm female and like my kinks, but after it's over the attraction to it fades. I don't necessarily think this is an exclusively male thing either, as someone further up in the thread mentioned that women like cuddling more after sex. Not at all true here. But anyway, I don't think you sound strange at all. If you do get a dog in the future, just take things as they come and enjoy it regardless of what does or doesn't happen. Life's too short!

 

[ElGee]

Uhh.....so back on topic here. OP doesn't seem weird at all to me. I'm female and like my kinks, but after it's over the attraction to it fades. I don't necessarily think this is an exclusively male thing either, as someone further up in the thread mentioned that women like cuddling more after sex. Not at all true here. But anyway, I don't think you sound strange at all. If you do get a dog in the future, just take things as they come and enjoy it regardless of what does or doesn't happen. Life's too short!

That was me who said that above. Certainly it's a generalization and I will edit to make that more clear. It was intended to illuminate that it's OK to feel how you feel, not as a factual statement on women. I'm glad you posted your thoughts!

 

[Reeferwolf]

This is known as seretonin drop.

 

[Reeferwolf]

I don't blame them because I don't like modern male zoos either.


I love the arrogant sarcasm that comes from privileged male victims. I sometimes wish I could be a man in this male dominated society for 1 day so I could complain about people not accepting my illegal sexual attraction for animals then demand sympathy. It must feel amazing to suffer no consequences other than being ghosted after coming out as zoo. Omg and I also want to mansplain things to k9 women such as what it's really like to be oppressed for having sex with male animals!



My favorite difference is that gay sex is legal whereas men forcing gay sex on a male animal is illegal. Your post is enough for me to support keeping this sexual activity illegal because animals shouldn't be sexually exploited just so guys like you can feel special for being part of a group think community.

Didn't this bitch have another name on here recently? I seem to remember this exact same post being made in the dumpster fire not long ago.

 

[Zetaman40]

I have been exploring my sexuality in terms of zoo for about a year now. I am still struggling with it and need some advice.

I go through periods of time where I believe I'm not interested in animals whatsoever.. sometimes they truly just dont seem to appeal to me. I partly wonder if this is simply just due to me feeling guilty of being this way and knowing I'll have to keep it to myself for pretty much the rest of my life (besides people actively within the community already. ) I suppose a part of me doesnt want to feel like I'm lying to my friends if I'm zoo and they dont know about it so I try and push it out of my mind.

Now that that's out of the way. In the end, I always seem to have my zoo feelings come back. I go through periods where I am extremely attracted to animals. I realize that I dont view dogs as "sexy" in the same way I view human females but I am more so attracted to their loyalty, the idea of being a pack leader, the idea of the companionship and pleasing each other in the comfort of our own home. This excites me to no end and I at times feel like I may actually prefer animals over humans.

But when I try and watch porn. (Doesnt matter if its zoo or human) all my zoo feelings and "acceptance" seem to "go away" after I cum. I try and "hold on" to my zoo feelings because i get so tired of not knowing who i am but guilt always seems to get to me in the end and I'm back to feeling like I have to "discard" this aspect of myself. I feel more myself when I seem to be more accepting of being zoo.

I notice that whenever I abstain from masturbation my zoo feelings seem to actually remain. Its only when I am finished do my feelings go away.

Is there something wrong with me? I wouldn't say I am only "just into beasitality". I really do believe I'm zoo because I love the idea of having a doggy girlfriend and caring for each other. I don't just want sex. I just dont know how to get myself accepting of this fact and knowing that it's okay to keep this side of myself to MYSELF and that theres no reason to feel guilty.

I want to start off by saying you have nothing to feel guilty about!! Alright now that thats out of the way, I can relate to the being dishonest about your attractions part of the issue but its best to keep it to yourself; unless you are absolutely sure someone is non judgemental or a zoo themselves (odds are slim with both) sadly this is a burden all zoos have to bear, always being in the closet and never being able to truly open up about it to close friends and family.. As for your zoo feelings, they won't be fully realized until you act on your desires, make sure you know k9 body language well beforehand (check out my post in howtos section about consent, its very informative about overall body language) anyhow its normal to have a lowering of serotonin post orgasm so what your feeling after masturbating to porn is a combination of that and your internal conflicts about zoo!
Here's my overall advice, it seems you are denying this aspect of yourself, which is gonna be detrimental to your mental wellbeing if you continue to repress this aspect of your sexuality, my advice would be to act on it whenever you get the chance to be with a willing animal! You'll either love the actual act of sex with animals or find out you don't (which is unlikely since you've already expressed that animals turn you on) either way you'll learn more about yourself: form an even deeper connection than you've yet to expierence with canines as well from having a real life expierence and you should be more at peace with your sexuality after fully embracing it. Good Luck

 

[HighlyWobbly]

I have been exploring my sexuality in terms of zoo for about a year now. I am still struggling with it and need some advice.

I go through periods of time where I believe I'm not interested in animals whatsoever.. sometimes they truly just dont seem to appeal to me. I partly wonder if this is simply just due to me feeling guilty of being this way and knowing I'll have to keep it to myself for pretty much the rest of my life (besides people actively within the community already. ) I suppose a part of me doesnt want to feel like I'm lying to my friends if I'm zoo and they dont know about it so I try and push it out of my mind.

Now that that's out of the way. In the end, I always seem to have my zoo feelings come back. I go through periods where I am extremely attracted to animals. I realize that I dont view dogs as "sexy" in the same way I view human females but I am more so attracted to their loyalty, the idea of being a pack leader, the idea of the companionship and pleasing each other in the comfort of our own home. This excites me to no end and I at times feel like I may actually prefer animals over humans.

But when I try and watch porn. (Doesnt matter if its zoo or human) all my zoo feelings and "acceptance" seem to "go away" after I cum. I try and "hold on" to my zoo feelings because i get so tired of not knowing who i am but guilt always seems to get to me in the end and I'm back to feeling like I have to "discard" this aspect of myself. I feel more myself when I seem to be more accepting of being zoo.

I notice that whenever I abstain from masturbation my zoo feelings seem to actually remain. Its only when I am finished do my feelings go away.

Is there something wrong with me? I wouldn't say I am only "just into beasitality". I really do believe I'm zoo because I love the idea of having a doggy girlfriend and caring for each other. I don't just want sex. I just dont know how to get myself accepting of this fact and knowing that it's okay to keep this side of myself to MYSELF and that theres no reason to feel guilty.

THIS THIS THIS!

Now let me just say, holy crap, either I just looked in the mirror and saw a reflection of myself. Or there really is someone who feels very similar to how I feel. Hol up, it's a very surreal thought, I gotta get my bearings

Like you, I don't find animals sexy as such. At least like you've said, not in the same way. I find the intimate interaction between humans and animals sexy/attractive (not usually between myself and an animal, but someone else who's really into it). Companionship, leader of the pack, also tick my boxes

But for me, unless I was in a solid relationship with someone who I was willing to try it out with, I'd very likely never have intercourse or anything like that with an animal. The fantasy sometimes, really drives my mind wild, but alone I'd never give it a go

Because IRL, I feel the same about not being sure whenever I'm Zoo or not, because a secret like this (that I'm occasionally unsure about), especially with some of my closest friends, just feels wrong to keep from them. For example I have 1 particular bestie, that I chose to share everything with, and he does the same. But here's the thing, I have a big deep secret, he doesn't (as if in, he tells me everything). And I usually end up feeling guilty about it, because I can't tell him about my secret. At least, I chose not to at the minute, because the risk of losing a friend like him is not something I'm willing to gamble a fetish on (or something I'm potentially unsure of)

Now, I've lurked around this forum for a while now, and the one thing that I found is that being a Zoo is normal (and I don't obviously mean by society's standards, but in general). I mean, think about it, the only major difference is our attraction to animals. Which health professionals seem keen to label as 'mental illness'. I don't disagree with some psychologists, I strongly believe /some/ people's attraction to the Zoo lifestyle is due to absence of a relationship for instance, but that doesn't justify the big 'ol illness sticker

In the end, what I'm trying to say is that I think it's okay to be unsure, and the very best thing about this community for instance is that you can share that. Whereas irl, you can't. Feel free to hit me up if you ever fancy a chat, otherwise I wish you all the best! <3