What’s the point of having this thread if people are so damn hostile on YOUR opinions?

[lolabunny313]

Thought this site was ready for actual genuine differences of opinions but I was WRONG

Also I’m saying zoophiles as if I’m not a zoophile because technically I’m not one I’m a Bestialist which just means that I have sexual attraction to animals and I enjoy having sexual relations with them without having the NEED to be/feel in love with them.

 

[milabue]

why they feel that bestiality/zoophilia is unethical/ wrong and should be illegal, what’s their number one reason on why? “Because animals can’t consent.” Right? and what do zoophiles say back? “Yes they can!”… Anddd that’s why we lose the argument every time!

If it were true that animals couldn't consent, then all natural mating would be rape. Thus, they lose the argument when they pretend that animals cannot consent.

OOOh, I heard someone say "Animals can't say no!" I suppose the dipstick had never tried to give a cat medicine or deal with a pet's dreadlocks, or troumatize them by taking them to the vet. Animals say NO very clearly.

 

[lolabunny313]

If it were true that animals couldn't consent, then all natural mating would be rape. Thus, they lose the argument when they pretend that animals cannot consent.

OOOh, I heard someone say "Animals can't say no!" I suppose the dipstick had never tried to give a cat medicine or deal with a pet's dreadlocks, or troumatize them by taking them to the vet. Animals say NO very clearly.

But.. natural mating is JUST that. Natural mating between two animals and a lot of mating is rape but it’s between animals what are you going to do take the male animal to jail? It’s nature their argument is that humans know better. Which is true, again I still don’t believe animals can consent. You know how big they are with consent among humans with the no means no and you gotta get verbal consent.. so how can a dog consent if they literally can’t talk?

But.. natural mating is JUST that. Natural mating between two animals and a lot of mating is rape but it’s between animals what are you going to do take the male animal to jail? It’s nature their argument is that humans know better. Which is true, again I still don’t believe animals can consent. You know how big they are with consent among humans with the no means no and you gotta get verbal consent.. so how can a dog consent if they literally can’t talk?

Again I still don’t believe fucking them should be illegal.. I fuck them too I’m saying come up with a better lead for the argument is all.

Again I still don’t believe fucking them should be illegal.. I fuck them too I’m saying come up with a better lead for the argument is all.

Also fucking them and raping them are two different things to me if the dog/animal is hella jumpy and pulling away I say leave them alone. If you keep going I see that as rape which is cruel and torturous, but if you fuck a calm animal it technically doesn’t mean that they can consent.. it just means they’re sitting there calmly and you’re fucking them

 

[milabue]

But.. natural mating is JUST that.

oh, for...
just go crawl under a rock and mate with the centipedes

 

[lolabunny313]

oh, for...
just go crawl under a rock and mate with the centipedes

see? There’s the hostility that I knew was coming, and that’s why zoos will always lose that argument!

 

[forest]

a lot of humans can't talk. also, in bdsm where the sub is gagged, the dom pays attention to body language for signs of consent, just like humans do when having sex with someone who doesn't speak the same verbal language, just like humans do with other animals. animals can consent, but first you have to know what consent IS. it's not just about sex. when you put your hand out for a dog to sniff and they press their nose to you and rub against you, that is consent to pet them. when a human holds their arms open and looks at you with a positive, greeting or comforting expression, it is consent to hug them (depending on the situation).

all words are made up to make communicating body language easier. we are NOT the only species capable of consent, because we are not the only species capable of communicating.

maybe you don't believe other animals can consent because you see humans as distinctly separate to all other animals, but don't bring your stupid fucking views here with your "into beast" fur fetish shit

 

[lolabunny313]

oh, for...
just go crawl under a rock and mate with the centipedes

I’m into bestiality myself but at least I know the argument has to be better than what people present it to be.


Animals can express consent in some ways, but there are ethical considerations that make it difficult to determine whether they can fully consent in the same way as humans

However, animals are often unable to make informed decisions about their lives, and they may suffer from fear, anxiety, depression, or physical violence. They also lack the same power as humans, so it's difficult to say that they can truly consent to things like sex with humans.

From an article that I agree with, again do I think sex with animals is wrong or bad? Absolutely not!! But I do believe that there has to be some other argument to use other than saying that they can consent..

 

[forest]

I’m into bestiality myself but at least I know the argument has to be better than what people present it to be.


Animals can express consent in some ways, but there are ethical considerations that make it difficult to determine whether they can fully consent in the same way as humans

However, animals are often unable to make informed decisions about their lives, and they may suffer from fear, anxiety, depression, or physical violence. They also lack the same power as humans, so it's difficult to say that they can truly consent to things like sex with humans.

From an article that I agree with, again do I think sex with animals is wrong or bad? Absolutely not!! But I do believe that there has to be some other argument to use other than saying that they can consent..

1 they can.
2 maybe it's because they can't make decisions about their lives as slaves to humans
3 sex without consent is rape, so you are literally saying your into animal rape if you think people that aren't human can't consent

 

[lolabunny313]

a lot of humans can't talk. also, in bdsm where the sub is gagged, the dom pays attention to body language for signs of consent, just like humans do when having sex with someone who doesn't speak the same verbal language, just like humans do with other animals. animals can consent, but first you have to know what consent IS. it's not just about sex. when you put your hand out for a dog to sniff and they press their nose to you and rub against you, that is consent to pet them. when a human holds their arms open and looks at you with a positive, greeting or comforting expression, it is consent to hug them (depending on the situation).

all words are made up to make communicating body language easier. we are NOT the only species capable of consent, because we are not the only species capable of communicating.

maybe you don't believe other animals can consent because you see humans as distinctly separate to all other animals, but don't bring your stupid fucking views here with your "into beast" fur fetish shit

See you almost had me and I was going to give you a respectful reply back but ya kinda turned into an asshole at the end there didn’t you? Animal mating is different from interspecies sex so you comparing the two is starting off idiotic already. And guess what the two humans into bdsm verbally communicate the signals before a scene where the sub is gagged wrong or right? Bdsm happens between two people who can literally TALK… so you bringing bdsm into the mix fine does that make it okay for people to preform bdsm with their dogs???

1 they can.
2 maybe it's because they can't make decisions about their lives as slaves to humans
3 sex without consent is rape, so you are literally saying your into animal rape if you think people that aren't human can't consent

I just know you didn’t call animals people that aren’t human…. there are animals and then there are humans… be so for real..

1 they can.
2 maybe it's because they can't make decisions about their lives as slaves to humans
3 sex without consent is rape, so you are literally saying your into animal rape if you think people that aren't human can't consent

1. If they can’t talk they can’t consent technically…
2. Animals are animals and shouldn’t be compared to humans because of obvious reasons…
3. I’ve already explained that rape to me is brutal cruel and violent. I never said that sex with animals was violent I just said that they can’t consent.. not consenting and rape are two different things. Babies can’t consent to being kissed by family but is that kissing rape? No it’s just a fact.

And this is why so many people in the zoo community don’t touch on sensitive topics because you overzealous jumping to prove that you feel YOUR opinion is in the right ass zoos. You can’t even have a simple conversation about difference of opinion without being belligerent and rude!

Only intelligent people can see someone speaking from a different point of view from there’s and be able to have a decent conversation about the topic. The ones who get all agitated and furious shows their lack of intellectual perceptive…

 

[forest]

1. If they can’t talk they can’t consent technically…
2. Animals are animals and shouldn’t be compared to humans because of obvious reasons…
3. I’ve already explained that rape to me is brutal cruel and violent. I never said that sex with animals was violent I just said that they can’t consent.. not consenting and rape are two different things. Babies can’t consent to being kissed by family but is that kissing rape? No it’s just a fact.

1 so, mute humans can't consent?
2 humans are animals too you dolt
3 what the fuck? so if a rapist is verry gentle, then it's fine? if the victim is aroused because of a response they can't control and the rapist never causes them physical pain, it's fine? it's not rape? what the fuck is wrong with you?

I just know you didn’t call animals people that aren’t human…. there are animals and then there are humans… be so for real..

i did. because person = individual who can think, feel and have a PERSONALITY. not just one species. stop laughing, nothings funny. expect for the fact your parents made a joke of an individual.

 

[lolabunny313]

1 so, mute humans can't consent?
2 humans are animals too you dolt
3 what the fuck? so if a rapist is verry gentle, then it's fine? if the victim is aroused because of a response they can't control and the rapist never causes them physical pain, it's fine? it's not rape? what the fuck is wrong with you?

i did. because person = individual who can think, feel and have a PERSONALITY. not just one species. stop laughing, nothings funny. expect for the fact your parents made a joke of an individual.

1. Mute humans have other ways to communicate right? Sign language and texting literal forms of communication don’t tell me you’re that behind…
2. Humans are a form of mammals but we’re not technically considered animals since you know we’ve evolved and are the most evolved mammal that is not animal. Mind you we share the most similar genetic code to apes not dogs don’t go there with me lol either way it’s still what? Interspecies mating.
3. You sound like an idiot no type of rape is gentle how do I have to keep explaining to you dumb dumb it’s violent and cruel. Sex not violent. Rape real violent. lol you’re so convinced you’re an animal as well that you actually have the brain capacity of one. lol logic’s chasing you and you’re fast!!!!

1 so, mute humans can't consent?
2 humans are animals too you dolt
3 what the fuck? so if a rapist is verry gentle, then it's fine? if the victim is aroused because of a response they can't control and the rapist never causes them physical pain, it's fine? it's not rape? what the fuck is wrong with you?

i did. because person = individual who can think, feel and have a PERSONALITY. not just one species. stop laughing, nothings funny. expect for the fact your parents made a joke of an individual.

Expect the fact? Yeah you’re so bright. So bright that you’re letting a complete stranger get under your dirty stinky skin. This thread was for people who can actually have a functioning conversation, and you’ve proved several times that you can’t do that… lol

 

[milabue]

Animal mating is different from interspecies sex

nope

 

[lolabunny313]

nope

lol your whole existence is asinine and I’m done with this back and forth. Have fun. At least I have the balls to go against the grain with my own opinions, and I’m not afraid to think for myself. Or express that isn’t that what the dumpster fire is for?

 

[milabue]

your whole existence is asinine

yup

 

[saddlebum66]

Thought this site was ready for actual genuine differences of opinions but I was WRONG

Wrong place for reasonable comm, Sweetie. Read the header that opens this whole section.

 

[pes]

But.. natural mating is JUST that.

How a female dog expresses consent with body language

Flagging (normally they do this behavior in standing heat) is how a female dog expresses that she is willing and ready to mate with a male, lifting of the vulva and tucking the tail off to one side are clear signs of consent, it is part of the k9 body language, they are absolutely capable of...

www.zoovilleforum.net

How does your dog show they're wanting sex?

[Leaving the thread up, but deleting the text, as requested.]

www.zoovilleforum.net

How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?

When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...

www.zoovilleforum.net

Animals can consent or refuse. They can even ask for sex and seduce a partner.
Watch some more mating videos.

Thought this site was ready for actual genuine differences of opinions but I was WRONG

You are not ready for a different opinion.
You set up a thread with a difficult topic and now you want to back out of it when people do not agree with you.
No, you are not going to do that.
This thread is exactly what you wanted.

I can move it out of the dumpster fire if you want a more civilized discussion but I am not deleting it.

 

[lolabunny313]

How a female dog expresses consent with body language

Flagging (normally they do this behavior in standing heat) is how a female dog expresses that she is willing and ready to mate with a male, lifting of the vulva and tucking the tail off to one side are clear signs of consent, it is part of the k9 body language, they are absolutely capable of...

www.zoovilleforum.net

How does your dog show they're wanting sex?

[Leaving the thread up, but deleting the text, as requested.]

www.zoovilleforum.net

How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?

When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...

www.zoovilleforum.net

Animals can consent or refuse. They can even ask for sex and seduce a partner.
Watch some more mating videos.


You are not ready for a different opinion.
You set up a thread with a difficult topic and now you want to back out of it when people do not agree with you.
No, you are not going to do that.
This thread is exactly what you wanted.

I can move it out of the dumpster fire if you want a more civilized discussion but I am not deleting it.

Ohh so you’re the asshole who rejected my report, eat a bag of fucking dicks I see why people don’t like this site. It’s full of biased imbeciles like YOU! You piece of shit moron your mother should’ve swallowed you BITCH. Again I never said I couldn’t handle the backlash I said that this site FILLED with ignorant beings like you weren’t ready and I as right SUCK MY DICK bitch

How a female dog expresses consent with body language

Flagging (normally they do this behavior in standing heat) is how a female dog expresses that she is willing and ready to mate with a male, lifting of the vulva and tucking the tail off to one side are clear signs of consent, it is part of the k9 body language, they are absolutely capable of...

www.zoovilleforum.net

How does your dog show they're wanting sex?

[Leaving the thread up, but deleting the text, as requested.]

www.zoovilleforum.net

How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?

When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...

www.zoovilleforum.net

Animals can consent or refuse. They can even ask for sex and seduce a partner.
Watch some more mating videos.


You are not ready for a different opinion.
You set up a thread with a difficult topic and now you want to back out of it when people do not agree with you.
No, you are not going to do that.
This thread is exactly what you wanted.

I can move it out of the dumpster fire if you want a more civilized discussion but I am not deleting it.

report me ban me I don’t give a fuck I am telling every zoo that I know to get off of here I’m in a whole groups chat on telegram and I wondered why nobody fucked with this site it’s because of staff members like you ROT in fucking hell bitch

 

[pes]

SUCK MY DICK bitch

I prefer dogs, but thanks for the offer.

 

[lolabunny313]

I prefer dogs, but thanks for the offer.

I bet you do bitch make sure they actually say yes

I prefer dogs, but thanks for the offer.

Oh wait they can’t talk!!!!!

 

[pes]

report me ban me I don’t give a fuck I am telling every zoo that I know to get off of here I’m in a whole groups chat on telegram and I wondered why nobody fucked with this site it’s because of staff members like you ROT in fucking hell bitch

I guess we also have a different opinion on which people are good for this site.
Do you realize that a nobody on a public, illegal internet forum has absolutely no possible chance to effectively insult me?
Enjoy your thread.
Different opinions are actually useful.

How a female dog expresses consent with body language

Flagging (normally they do this behavior in standing heat) is how a female dog expresses that she is willing and ready to mate with a male, lifting of the vulva and tucking the tail off to one side are clear signs of consent, it is part of the k9 body language, they are absolutely capable of...

www.zoovilleforum.net

How does your dog show they're wanting sex?

[Leaving the thread up, but deleting the text, as requested.]

www.zoovilleforum.net

How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?

When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...

www.zoovilleforum.net

Animals can consent or refuse. They can even ask for sex and seduce a partner.
Watch some more mating videos.


You are not ready for a different opinion.
You set up a thread with a difficult topic and now you want to back out of it when people do not agree with you.
No, you are not going to do that.
This thread is exactly what you wanted.

I can move it out of the dumpster fire if you want a more civilized discussion but I am not deleting it.

If you would like to understand why zoos think animals can consent, I suggest reading the threads I linked here.
They represent a different opinion from yours, so it might be slightly challenging.
You might not be ready for it yet.

Thread moved out of DF for the sake of a more reasonable discussion.
The beginning here actually is not that bad.

This user was banned on their own request.
Not because of this thread.
I guess she was not expecting a difference in opinion from hers.

 

[MashaSobaka]