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Users on here regularly report 20-30 minute knottings, and professionally produced porn often has very long knots, but amature porn tend to be shorter

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What gives? Why do I rarely see amature porn with these long knottings? Most amature porn is lucky to show a minute tie, but going off of professional porn and forums posts, it sounds like 10+ minutes is to be expected.
 
seems to me that most stuff focuses only on the humping part of sex and the tie is either heavily edited or there's a cut straight to pull out. i like watching (and doing) ties. watching the boy just chill on the other participant's back or butt to butt behind them. his butthole winking away... knowing all too well it's the best part of canine sex. guess it's considered boring to watch by ppl only here for porn?
kinkyguy85 said:
I think knotting could take anywhere up to 30 mins of the female getting filled with hot cum.
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not really, if by female you are referring to a woman. human vagina is physically unable to hold a tie.
 
nekdoneco123 said:
seems to me that most stuff focuses only on the humping part of sex and the tie is either heavily edited or there's a cut straight to pull out. i like watching (and doing) ties. watching the boy just chill on the other participant's back or butt to butt behind them. his butthole winking away... knowing all too well it's the best part of canine sex. guess it's considered boring to watch by ppl only here for porn?

not really, if by female you are referring to a woman. human vagina is physically unable to hold a tie.
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I mean we see these very short ties in one take, unedited amature stuff all the time.
 
Horny members here like to describe exaggerations. And I doubt anyone would start a stopwatch to measure accurately.
The knotting is short in the amateur recordings because it is the real. No longer than 10 minutes.
And what was written above is the "boring" part of a video because "nothing happens on it", so it is edited out.

I remember a video where the owner claimed that knotting took at least 15-20 minutes. While you could watch the minutes on the full uncut video and it lasted 7 minutes. I remember I even described to him that the sense of time is quite distorted during knotting... :ROFLMAO:
 
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LuvelyLeda said:
I don't really watch porn anymore, but I used to watch a lot when I was younger and I remember seeing this one chick tie with her dog for like 12-13 minutes, long enough for the male dog to finish properly. It might even be on ZV, but it's gonna be hard to find. I'll take a look if I'm ever bored on a weekend and I'll post it here. But ya... most are for sure not like this for reasons already mentioned here and other threads that ask the same thing.


I've never used a stopwatch to time it, but there is a clock in our bedroom that we're sometimes facing while we're having sex. For the most part he's really consistent with the amount of time he likes to tie and have sex with me for. It's usually 15 minutes, sometimes a couple minutes less, and sometimes a couple minutes more. The longest would be a little over 20 minutes, but that doesn't happen often at all. We've never come close to having sex for as long as some people claim to do it for... like 30-40 minutes. I honestly wouldn't even want to have sex for that long, it's a little much, and I don't think my partner could either.


I hate "professional" porn, but since I won't be comfortable posting my own content any time soon, this will have to do. It took me like a minute of browsing in the porn section to find this. Tying is probably really boring to watch for most kinksters that like bestiality porn, so it's probably why they're actually trying to stop it from continuing in this example. Notice how it's actually taking effort, and how it doesn't easily slide out like his penis was made of butter? Ya, we'll never be able to tie as well as a female dog can cuz we don't have the proper equipment, but it is possible to do it well enough to be enjoyable for the male and ourselves.

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There's also this one... I'll just post it as a link cuz I had problems posting it as its own clip.

https://www.zoovilleforum.net/data/video/343/343332-6b747298e089ead43597e16e01d23a71.mp4

Notice how the male tries to continue humping, but can't pull himself back to thrust anymore? It's cuz they're tying. It's too bad it doesn't show the whole thing before it cuts out to another clip of the couple having sex. In the second one, I think the male slipped out too soon before he was fully erect, and couldn't slide himself back in anymore because he ended up getting too erect outside of her. Kinda off topic, but I also don't think I've ever seen a porno with someone doing it on their period. Sometimes that's how it is, it's pretty real.

I don't think I'll convince you of anything, but it is rather annoying to have a man explain to everyone what having a vagina is like on this thread and others. Ya, you don't need to be a girl to know proper anatomy, but you're still wrong.
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The best part of this forum is being able to hear experienced and pro opinions like this one. Being able to get proper insight and information gives me hope that some day I'll be actually able to be part of the lifestyle actively!
 
LuvelyLeda said:
Notice how it's actually taking effort, and how it doesn't easily slide out like his penis was made of butter?
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Yeah, I say that too. Woman can knot and we man can also knot the female dog. It doesn't have the right bump and muscles in either case, but they can squeeze the legs, the surrounding muscles, the skin can stick to the skin, etc. We know this in the case of female dog sex, how important lube or precum is, because a slightly drier area is enough and it cannot be penetrated. This also applies in reverse, if the male dog's knot becomes drier on the outside in the meantime and is able to adhere to the skin at the entrance of the vagina.
So both sexes are capable of "knotting", only to a limited extent.
The knotting of two dogs can only be separated by serious injury. While people's knots can be separated with mild/moderate pain without injury.

I don't know women inside and I don't have a vagina. ? But even among female dogs there are wide ones, loose ones, and very tight ones. I think it also varies with women, some can hold a knot more strongly, others not at all.
 
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LuvelyLeda said:
I don't think I'll convince you of anything, but it is rather annoying to have a man explain to everyone what having a vagina is like on this thread and others. Ya, you don't need to be a girl to know proper anatomy, but you're still wrong.
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i know, knowing basic anatomy can be annoying... i'm also not explaining what is having a vagina like.

do we just pretend there isn't a hand of someone from crew holding the dog by his left hind leg while the actress also held him around his chest one one of the clips (the one so zoomed in to likely conceal all the holding in place)? it also did slip out with minimal effort (some effort yes, due to difference in circumference..)?

the second clip is kinda convincing, does something inside swell during a period? maybe that is "the key"?

one probably can achieve a "tie" of sorts with like kegels and of course the difference in circumference of genitals (period maybe helps too?), it doesn't really change the fact that a human vagina literally doesn't have the key components needed to tie.... meaning it won't hold, not for the times some users are claiming.

@MashaSobaka you aren't forgoing proper lubrication when you have sex with your girls to "tie" by friction, are you? sounds painful...
 
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knottyKaite said:
My boy usually gets me solidly tied for probably about 5ish to 10ish mins on average. In reality I’m not really looking at the clock or caring about the clock, but I definitely know there’s no crazy long tie that happens for me or has ever happened for me.
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Thank you for sharing!
 

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knotjen said:
...the female dog’s ring muscles at the entry point of her vagina constrict to keep the knot inside. This maximizes semen retention and increases the likelihood of pregnancy.
Women do not have those ring muscles and therefore the dog’s knot cannot be held the traditional canine way and quite often, the dog’s penis and knot will come out if he pulls too hard.
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The more porn you watch the more you will be approaching the fact that in 98% of cases the knot can go out at any point even fully inflated and knotting with a human vagina is 98% not possible.

The only times it works is when there is a significant size difference between the hole and the knot.
"knotting" would work much better if people held a hand back there and provided the holding with fingers, you would have many more successful matings and many less frustrated attempts where the dog jumps off 5 times until a watching fetishist gets upset enough that he is not getting what he wants and holds the dog on the woman forcefully.
But since zoophiles are rare and porn is usually made by people who do not understand the anatomy, you get what you get. People hold the legs, or tail or head or back, anything but the knot and that is not how it works. If you hold the knot, it just works.
 
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LuvelyLeda said:
lol.. research. If you had a vagina, you'd know that that question was silly in the first place.
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i take it as it does swell during that time.
LuvelyLeda said:
I hope you feel better soon.
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thanks, but i'll be visiting even darker place soon. my girl is dying of cancer, has maybe few more days. my mother is dying of cancer too, she has a few months.
only the start of february and this year can go fuck itself already.
 
nekdoneco123 said:
i take it as it does swell during that time.

thanks, but i'll be visiting even darker place soon. my girl is dying of cancer, has maybe few more days. my mother is dying of cancer too, she has a few months.
only the start of february and this year can go fuck itself already.
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Understand that feeling way too well, I have lost most my pack to that insidious disease over the years, the pain never goes away, but it dulls over time, just love the others that much more. Just got to get through the lowest darkest time period, and reflect on all the good times
 
40m is the record longest I have ever seen my boy knotted for when he was in his prime, those are rare, and the exception not the norm, but it is possible, just not common.

LuvelyLeda experience is more the norm.
 
LuvelyLeda said:
You're not as smart as you think you are.
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i know i'm not, that's why i at least try to do some research before going around telling ppl things..
OffgridK9lover said:
40m is the record longest I have ever seen my boy knotted for when he was in his prime, those are rare, and the exception not the norm, but it is possible, just not common.
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if we're talking records, the longest was that one time a whole simpsons episode went by on the tv, like 20-ish minutes?
 
OffgridK9lover said:
Understand that feeling way too well, I have lost most my pack to that insidious disease over the years, the pain never goes away, but it dulls over time, just love the others that much more. Just got to get through the lowest darkest time period, and reflect on all the good times
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I agree with that.
However, Nekdo has experienced much more from the dark than we will in the next 10-20 years altogether. And the fear runs through me, what will happen if I get the same way.
 
pes said:
.... times it works is when there is a significant size difference between the hole and the knot.
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This is one of the correlations I've noticed with 25 yrs + of watching vids. In the pro porn vids, the dogs tend to have larger knots. These producers and women also know the angle to keep the dog on, to where he is less likely to pull out.

knot jen mentioned there are lots of variables. Aside from size, the angle the dog tugs after he stops humping makes a difference. If lots of air got into the vagina in that mating, that can make a difference too. There will be less of a vacuum seal between the two genitals.

In the homemade vids, lots of them have medium size dogs with medium to largish knots. Lots of the male partners filming are goof balls too and don't always remain back and quiet.

Next, some of the amateur women are first timers. The ones that have a dog with a large knot and anticipate his moves, can usually stay tied longer.

The dog's temperament or behavior makes a difference too, sometimes.

"Barney and Frankie" were a woman and bull mastiff amateur pair that had a video of tieing for 8 mins +. He had quite a thick knot and was the type to not move much after knotting inside her.

The other with large knots sometimes still pull out, and you can hear and see that it is a challenge, but this is usually with a dog that does not want to stay still, and he turns the tie or steadily pulls back and a little, even if slowly. Pulling up/ forward usually will not pull a large not out as often, as the knot will hang up on her parineum.

Some members say that people should just ask the women here, but there have been so many fakes over the years that it takes a good bit of time to know who is actually real.

My record was 15 mins with a 90 lb boxer that had a sizeable knot, but that was anal. I knew to get beside something on my kness to reduce his options for turning around too. I'd be surprised if a dog would stay hard and cumming over 30 mins, but I suppose it's not impossible.
 
There are actually some good amateur vids out there, where the knotting really takes place well, and it lasts for some minutes, say from 3 to 5 minutes, very rarely more. This of course does not mean that it cannot last more, just that it rarely gets filmed as a whole.

I don't know about the majority (probably most fetishists like more the humping and the pullout than all the rest, and this may be the reason why mainstream porn usually don't stay long on "quiet" knotting);
but for me, essentialy I like a lot the phase in which the dog stays calm and steady over his partner, slowly passing his semen into the recipient's organs. I find it extremely nice to see his anal muscles contract rythmically as he slowly but constantly pumps his seed into his partner.

It is really beautiful and a big turnon to think to what is happening inside there. Not to mention how much the dog himself is enjoying this, which makes me feel good for him, and of course also his partner.
I am no woman of course, but I feel a woman in this phase is really in a special state of grace mentally and perhaps physically (for sure you ladies and girls can say your opinion much better than me). To me, in my experience, the quiet, steady & calm phase is one of the most emotionally satisfying parts of the whole intercourse.
 
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As a male, I would say 5 minutes has been about the max. My partner is a male Rottweiler and usually after about five minutes of knotting he's bored with it and ready to go do whatever dogs do after sex. I typically lube up really well before so I can easily release his knot if he starts getting too antsy, because, let me assure you from personal experience, a Rottweiler's fist sized knot being forcefully pulled out of your bum without lube is NOT a nice feeling. :oops:
 
20 minute knots can last, if you're holding them behind the knot, which seems to keep it from deflating in a way. I did that allow me to give them bjs longer. They'll stop cumming but they'll keep their knot. That's the only way I've seen it last somewhere around that length.
 
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