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The Fucksaddle (or: other ways to "get even" with your mare?)

canecorso

Citizen of Zooville
Long story short, I've had my first intimate encounter with a mare recently, which unfortunately stopped short of penetration... and my own numbing anxiety aside, the chief reason for that was that my pelvis simply couldn't reach hers, and there was no bucket or leverage point at hand to take advantage of. And even then, at least to me as an observer, the traditional bucket or stepladder method seems to be restricting in its own many ways - she'd be constantly one little foot shuffle away from "disconnecting" the two of you, even if all she wanted to do was to simply readjust herself for comfort.

So this got my gears spinning: what if there was a better, more practical way to overcome this issue, that could also sync your movements better? Maybe even something lightweight and simple to carry? Then my mind floated back to a panel from the notorious Mareholic doujin:
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...and while that's a comic book fantasy, it got me wondering if there was a real harness or a saddle attachment/extension that could be usable and comfortable for fornication purposes, and if not, how would one design something like that. There's a whole lot of details to consider first: weight distribution and comfort for both parties I think are the biggest concerns, and immediately from the above image it seems to me like the setup of metal stirrups pressed against her thighs could easily get irritating and uncomfortable. In my mind I'm imagining something to the effect of long leather strap loops secured to a regular saddle, which then could be hung freely over the mare's buttocks and used as soft stirrups while you're doing business back there, while the straps would distribute the weight of your body evenly along her spine.

Regarding the possible limitations of this method, I imagine it could impair body language to some extent - if a mare loses interest, she can normally just walk away, but much less so when you're basically latched onto her butt - something to pay more attention to for sure. Also I can't imagine how the saddle would behave with this backward pull, or which parts of her back/butt would need more security than others.

However, my knowledge of horse gear is still lacking and I've never attempted designing something like this before, so there's most likely something much better out there. Some modified draught horse harness type design? Maybe the task is achievable without either bucket or harness in yet another way? Hopefully you could help me figure it out with this thread ;)
 
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Somthing for you to stand on are best.
In The nature when the stallion are smaler then The mare they find a place where The stallion get higher hight than the mare.

A "staircase" in hard plastic that are movable is something I think are really good to use, they are wider so stand still better when you move ?
 
Sure there's the natural way of doing things, but in nature they also last like under 30 seconds. No time to get a sore hoof like when a human takes it slow ;)
About the staircase, what do you mean by movable? I have a hard time picturing what exactly you mean. My concern isn't as much about the support moving under me, but about the mare "accidentally" moving herself just out of reach (and then you have to through the whole process again - climb down, move the staircase, all while keeping your attention on the mare, and so on - it just doesn't seem very practical if you ask me).

I've also wondered that maybe some firm stilts with a wide base could do the trick? Like some of those that painters use. Though those could be impractical if you're on uneven terrain.
 
In 30 years of having sex with mares I've never needed anything like that and my experience is with mares ranging from very small miniatures to large draft mares, finding the proper height correction device for the mare is very important but never try to restrict her movement, and you really don't want to be unable to get out of the way quickly if she panics or pushes backwards pinning you in place against a wall or something similar.
 
Sure, what I imagined would go over her back and thus shouldn't impede her movement any more than a saddle would, but I see what you mean. How did you go on about the large draft mares though? If she pushes backwards, won't she just knock you over either way though?
 
Sure, what I imagined would go over her back and thus shouldn't impede her movement any more than a saddle would, but I see what you mean. How did you go on about the large draft mares though? If she pushes backwards, won't she just knock you over either way though?
With a draft we were always someplace open so I wouldn't get crushed if she pushed back, mine weren't too much for moving more than shifting weight from hoof to hoof. The taller the mare the more challenging it is finding a stable way to reach her that's quite, you really don't want it to make any sudden noises right behind her.

I'm guessing you're dealing with a mare that's on the tall side?
 
With a draft we were always someplace open so I wouldn't get crushed if she pushed back, mine weren't too much for moving more than shifting weight from hoof to hoof. The taller the mare the more challenging it is finding a stable way to reach her that's quite, you really don't want it to make any sudden noises right behind her.

I'm guessing you're dealing with a mare that's on the tall side?
Maybe around 160-170cm at the withers is my best guess... but the best thing around for leverage was a car tire and that wasn't enough, though maybe something twice the height could've done the trick. And yeah, by shuffling I meant shifting weight, which can throw off the whole angle when she does that.
 
I have no idea, but remembering (fantasy?) tales from cow poking where they hold foot toes on the leg joint bone...

Stilts is an option?

Other than that...
Add a foot rest on one of those?
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As a plus, if she kicks she will be able to hit better, so use rubber, not concrete ?

(Nah. I doubt that would hold the weigh. Likely it would just slip down and be unconfortable)
 
The reason I suggest not using your harness and stirrup idea is for safety, take a good look at a horse that's gone into a full buck, it's like a reverse rear, now picture yourself over her rump with both feet in stirrups attached to her, congratulations you've invented the world's first equine powered trebuchet and you're the shot.
 
I see two potential problems with stilts, and that is that they don't work so well when the terrain is rough (out in the paddock as opposed to indoors), and that you're even easier to knock over when she rears into you than with the bucket/ladder where you can at least quickly step down. But otherwise yeah I see the potential, though I haven't heard of anybody mentioning how well they work in actual practice.

I don't like the footrest idea, because like Mare Lover mentioned, they could easily impede the mare's mobility, and placing the pressure of a grown human's body weight directly on those sensitive tendons seems like a bad idea. And yeah, I can imagine that the amount of securing necessary for them to not just slip down under the weight could easily be uncomfortable for the mare.

The reason I suggest not using your harness and stirrup idea is for safety, take a good look at a horse that's gone into a full buck, it's like a reverse rear, now picture yourself over her rump with both feet in stirrups attached to her, congratulations you've invented the world's first equine powered trebuchet and you're the shot.
Well... what if it was combined with some piece that you could grab onto with your hands as well?

Just to make things more clear and fun, I've made a crude schematic of the fuck harness in my mind:
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Yes, obvious answer is pony or mini, but it is not as fun as brainstorming. You know... Give a clueless engeneer a problem to brainstorm, and he will be busy all day until he finds a way that works, but only in the lab, not on the field ?

Well, those stilts are for outside.
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Now, fruits do not usually move, so it might take some time to learn to dodge backward on those... LOL
 
Horsefuck engineering... I like the ring of it.
And yes, ponies and minis don't deal with such issues, but bigger mares are no less deserving of a good time :p Plus you might be like me and circumstance decides your mare's height for you.
 
With my minis I sit behind them and rock back and forth with their movements, my pony really depends on her mood, if she's in heat or just very horny she'll squat low enough to reach with my feet on the ground, otherwise I use a tire and wheel so I've got some room to move with her, for my quarter horse a yard chair works great as she's a rock when it comes to sex, she's not going anywhere until she gets off ❤
 
With my minis I sit behind them and rock back and forth with their movements, my pony really depends on her mood, if she's in heat or just very horny she'll squat low enough to reach with my feet on the ground, otherwise I use a tire and wheel so I've got some room to move with her, for my quarter horse a yard chair works great as she's a rock when it comes to sex, she's not going anywhere until she gets off ❤
Would you say from your experience that the squatting is something that mares generally tend to do or is it just her specific quirk? I haven't seen much talk about this sort of thing before.
 
Would you say from your experience that the squatting is something that mares generally tend to do or is it just her specific quirk? I haven't seen much talk about this sort of thing before.
It's something they'll only do if they're really into it, out of all the mares I've had and been with maybe six or so did the "saw horse" during sex, and of those most couldn't maintain the position for long.
 
It's something they'll only do if they're really into it, out of all the mares I've had and been with maybe six or so did the "saw horse" during sex, and of those most couldn't maintain the position for long.
I see, you got me worried there for a second that them not doing it is somehow indicative of them not being into it. What do you mean by "saw horse"?
 
I see, you got me worried there for a second that them not doing it is somehow indicative of them not being into it. What do you mean by "saw horse"?
Definitely nothing you're doing wrong, it's so random even with the ones I've had forever if they do so or not any given time.

Saw horse refers to the stance a mare takes when she pees or presents herself to a stallion to be mounted.

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Definitely nothing you're doing wrong, it's so random even with the ones I've had forever if they do so or not any given time.

Saw horse refers to the stance a mare takes when she pees or presents herself to a stallion to be mounted.

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While it's obvious why this stance is preferential for an actual stallion, wouldn't it be more impractical for you as a human? Since you need to push the bucket-whatever more under her and she could push you off when she readjusts her legs and butt. Or does she maintain the position for the whole duration of the act?
 
While it's obvious why this stance is preferential for an actual stallion, wouldn't it be more impractical for you as a human? Since you need to push the bucket-whatever more under her and she could push you off when she readjusts her legs. Or does she maintain the position for the whole duration of the act?
With my pony she's able to maintain the position so you're standing between her legs on the ground, she's not very tall to begin with so she's not lowering herself that much. Even when we start with me standing on something and she squats during it's easy to step down and keep going, not something that's possible with a taller mare.
 
The picture looks very uncomfortable though for the back
not as much as you would believe ... there is a Mare that when you put me in that position remains there until she gets her orgasm, (whether it is with my fingers or with me) and if it is in good season it gets better shortly after waving the vertical tail, and in any case it is a position they assume when they pee.
mine for example does not even think about assuming that position while we are together, she does it only if in heat and there is a stallion nearby, but she does it on purpose to attract the male to kick him better (he has developed a bad temper towards stallions for past problems if you ask, but it's not a problem, it's not my intention to introduce anyone)
 
I see two potential problems with stilts, and that is that they don't work so well when the terrain is rough (out in the paddock as opposed to indoors), and that you're even easier to knock over when she rears into you than with the bucket/ladder where you can at least quickly step down. But otherwise yeah I see the potential, though I haven't heard of anybody mentioning how well they work in actual practice.

I don't like the footrest idea, because like Mare Lover mentioned, they could easily impede the mare's mobility, and placing the pressure of a grown human's body weight directly on those sensitive tendons seems like a bad idea. And yeah, I can imagine that the amount of securing necessary for them to not just slip down under the weight could easily be uncomfortable for the mare.


Well... what if it was combined with some piece that you could grab onto with your hands as well?

Just to make things more clear and fun, I've made a crude schematic of the fuck harness in my mind:
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no, no, no,
among the bad ideas seen it seems to me to be among the worst ...
if you want to "hold" it, place your hands more sideways and press lightly (not everyone likes it in the same place) it will certainly be much more comfortable for both

rather maybe try to use something that can make him understand what you intend, use something you never use!
 
I remember once I had a similar problem with the tall mare, her ass was at the level of my chest and the problem was solved thanks to the natural terrain and my hornyness, I found a cut tree, I went with the mare so that her ass was towards this cuted tree and then I could penetrate her juicy pussy.
 
I always try to do it as naturally as possible without any buckets or other shit, of course to play a partisan sometimes there is no option to do it naturally, you have to do it in a stall with stairs and fast, remember that it must be natural and you have to harmonize with the mare so that she feels safe, I remember how I liked such a VERY timid mare, she was even afraid of a large fly, so I just calmed her down and she liked be with me because she was calm and felt safe with me, this is the most important thing to be not get kicked by accident when she get scared by something, but once different horse in the stall behind get scared by something and kicked the wall which scared my mare, she stood on her legs and started to nervously wave her front legs, getting nervous and shaking her head, making scared noises trying to escape stall I was there with her in that stall, but the most important thing is you need to stay calm and cold blood because if you start to panic, she will even panic more because she thinks there is something to be afraid of, and even if under the "hoof shot" you wil peace of mind and you will show that everything is fine, I walked over to her and started to stroke her, drizzle and calmly say "everything is fine, take it easy, don't be afraid" hold her head a little, and she clams so we can continue
 
I mean, I imagine lying on her back hanging your lower half at the right spot. But that does have it's own big set of difficulty so prolly not viable
 
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