should there be a private list of people who are not fake or UC

voidnite

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when i say there is list i mean not everyone gets access to it but those who are confirmed to be genuine only admins and those who are real get access to make meet ups more safer and less stressful

and i mean follow the giudelines set up but this list is for confirmed people and only meant for confirmed people who have showned there not fake with there actions

this list is a means of protecting those like minded who havent been confirmed

just wanted to ask if it might be doable
 
considering this is not a hook-up site i don't really see a point in doing so...

then again. i'm not an admin or owner of this forum so it's not up to me. anyways, how would you expect someone to "confirm" themselves? just giving some personal info to an admin doesn't seem safe in the long run.
it diesnt have to be a hook up it could be just to hang with like minded people could it be somes intentions yes could someone who is ver alone and afaid to be open about there love and needs someone to feel they are not alone hell yes
 
You can usually tell the real from the fakes by the posts/comments they make, as well as the type of interactions they have with others on here.
That is very true. If someone is a fake or whatever, it does not take long to figure it out.

part of what I like about this site is I feel safe and I feel like I don’t have any personal
Info that someone could reveal. I would be hesitant to give any of that info away...even to an admins.
 
That is very true. If someone is a fake or whatever, it does not take long to figure it out.

part of what I like about this site is I feel safe and I feel like I don’t have any personal
Info that someone could reveal. I would be hesitant to give any of that info away...even to an admins.
There are plenty of folks here, who have been around this community for over 20 years. When in doubt about something, they can probably steer you in the right direction
 
Nope, no reason to have it here. If you use it for hook up or any other form of meeting, you do your best to get to know the person before meeting them. As much as it may be seen as a bummer, it is a good thing for us to be always cautious and a bit suspissious. You can never be too careful being a zoo.
To a normal, casual chat and normal forum activity, you don't need to know anything about the other person, so there is not much reason to fake stuff about yourself anyway.
 
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Nope, no reason to have it here. If you use it for hook up or any other form of meeting, you do your best to get to know the person before meeting them. As much as it may be seen as a bummer, it is a good thing for us to be always cautious and a bit suspissious. You can never be too careful being a zoo.
To a normal, casual chat and normal forum activity, you don't need to know anything about the other person, so there is not much reason to fake stuff about yourself anyway.
im sorry if im coming arcoss badly i just was never able to be open with this and now i can be its so exciting and anxioty inducing honestly i would just like to meet up just to ask for life advice and play video games i have my horses and dogs but talking is something i would like both ways and not hide what i am
 
im sorry if im coming arcoss badly i just was never able to be open with this and now i can be its so exciting and anxioty inducing honestly i would just like to meet up just to ask for life advice and play video games i have my horses and dogs but talking is something i would like both ways and not hide what i am
Well, I dare to say that for most of us, the anonymity of this place is exactly what allows us to be open about who we are, how we feel and what we like. Any form of having to prove who you are, or need to be more descriptive of you as a physical person, would just go against the opennes.
Meeting people who are also zoophiles is hard, I get it, but I personally am not a fan of giving up on the anonymity in favour of making meeting for some people easier. Those who want to meet other folks will always be here, there are dozens of people in PMs every day, many with this intention. If that is what you are interested in, it just needs to be your responsibility to make sure who are you talking to, not the admins. That's just my opinion.
 
Well, I dare to say that for most of us, the anonymity of this place is exactly what allows us to be open about who we are, how we feel and what we like. Any form of having to prove who you are, or need to be more descriptive of you as a physical person, would just go against the opennes.
Meeting people who are also zoophiles is hard, I get it, but I personally am not a fan of giving up on the anonymity in favour of making meeting for some people easier. Those who want to meet other folks will always be here, there are dozens of people in PMs every day, many with this intention. If that is what you are interested in, it just needs to be your responsibility to make sure who are you talking to, not the admins. That's just my opinion.
Truth! The only reason I am even active on this site is because I feel safe and that people won’t be able to get my personal information.

I have had some of the creepiest of the creepy pm me and I can easily say not interested without being nervous someone will find out info about me
 
The only functional purpose for such a list is to facilitate quick meet ups for newbies. I'm neither newbie nor interested in meetups so I have no interest.

I am known as an asshole because I will call bullshit on fakers every time I see one. From my POV they look like 13 year olds bragging about their sexual exploits.

All that said, if what you want to do is talk, do it here. It's safer and you are certain that at least some of your audience is sympathetic. Don't let the politics scare you. Many of us get rude because it's just annoying to have a clearly stupid preteen calling 60+ years of hard work "ignorance". Be polite, listen, and ask questions without making pronouncements and you will find the differences matter less than you thought.
 
Gotta add a resounding !YES! to what Caikgoch and Misha and Angy and Gunslinger (and if I missed naming any of the rest, so sorry, I ain't perfrekt :) ) have already said. Treat this place as a "hookup" or "anybody wanna get together with me?" site, and you will almost certainly be disappointed, and it's all but certain you'll get slapped down - likely quite hard - by anyone who's actually "safe", "trustworthy", "worthwhile", or whatever other term you want to apply. That kind of crap is what the kink-kiddies and wannbes do, and you'll routinely see them catching at least a verbal beatdown, if not an outright ban, when they do it in public, and often reported/booted/banned/ignored if they start sliming their way into PMs.

As far as "making a list", that's up to *YOU* to do. It's not the place of ANYONE here to be compiling a list of who is/isn't "good people", for the simple reason that "good people" is a moving target that's a bit different for every one of us To one of the typical wankers, "good people" is the poster who dumps gigabytes of porn that was ancient history 20 years ago. To the typical kinkster, the only qualification for "good people" is "You've got a dog you'l let me fuck!". To those of us who have "been around the block" more than a couple of times, "good people" is folks we've figured out - usually through conversations that may have been ongoing for literally years, if not decades, on the various incarnations of "zoo-friendly" platforms that have come and gone - know what they're talking of and can be trusted. Maybe those folks do have a critter partner, maybe they don't, but they DO have the sense that comes only with experience.

Many - not all, but a large percentage - of the "old-timers" tend to be rather... Shall we say "salty"? when it comes to dealing with the 85913706226th repetition of the same old bullshit that's been trotted out over the years they've been observing this so-called "community", and react accordingly. Many of them are also cautious to the very edge of (and sometimes a bit beyond) outright paranoia - and with damned good reason. The idea of being on a "list", even if it's a list of "folks that are OK", isn't just "not good", it's outright terrifying to some of them. I, personally, would object as strongly as is possible to any such list existing at all, and would howl even louder if I were on it.

In short, you find out who the "good people" are by hanging out, cussin' and discussin', and keeping your eyes open. A good bit of advice, borrowed from Alcoholics Anonymous, is "until you've got 90 days or so, your best bet is to yank the cotton out of your ears and shove it in your mouth" - In less flowery terms, "shut up, listen lots, talk little, and figure out the lay of the land" before you start trying to do anything more than be a passive observer.
 
The only functional purpose for such a list is to facilitate quick meet ups for newbies. I'm neither newbie nor interested in meetups so I have no interest.

I am known as an asshole because I will call bullshit on fakers every time I see one. From my POV they look like 13 year olds bragging about their sexual exploits.

All that said, if what you want to do is talk, do it here. It's safer and you are certain that at least some of your audience is sympathetic. Don't let the politics scare you. Many of us get rude because it's just annoying to have a clearly stupid preteen calling 60+ years of hard work "ignorance". Be polite, listen, and ask questions without making pronouncements and you will find the differences matter less than you thought.
Here, here!

Also you'll notice the more advanced Citizens who ARE known grumps, are reactive - they do not initiate.... diplomacy is tried before the disruptors are charged ;)
 
Gotta add a resounding !YES! to what Caikgoch and Misha and Angy and Gunslinger (and if I missed naming any of the rest, so sorry, I ain't perfrekt :) ) have already said. Treat this place as a "hookup" or "anybody wanna get together with me?" site, and you will almost certainly be disappointed, and it's all but certain you'll get slapped down - likely quite hard - by anyone who's actually "safe", "trustworthy", "worthwhile", or whatever other term you want to apply. That kind of crap is what the kink-kiddies and wannbes do, and you'll routinely see them catching at least a verbal beatdown, if not an outright ban, when they do it in public, and often reported/booted/banned/ignored if they start sliming their way into PMs.

As far as "making a list", that's up to *YOU* to do. It's not the place of ANYONE here to be compiling a list of who is/isn't "good people", for the simple reason that "good people" is a moving target that's a bit different for every one of us To one of the typical wankers, "good people" is the poster who dumps gigabytes of porn that was ancient history 20 years ago. To the typical kinkster, the only qualification for "good people" is "You've got a dog you'l let me fuck!". To those of us who have "been around the block" more than a couple of times, "good people" is folks we've figured out - usually through conversations that may have been ongoing for literally years, if not decades, on the various incarnations of "zoo-friendly" platforms that have come and gone - know what they're talking of and can be trusted. Maybe those folks do have a critter partner, maybe they don't, but they DO have the sense that comes only with experience.

Many - not all, but a large percentage - of the "old-timers" tend to be rather... Shall we say "salty"? when it comes to dealing with the 85913706226th repetition of the same old bullshit that's been trotted out over the years they've been observing this so-called "community", and react accordingly. Many of them are also cautious to the very edge of (and sometimes a bit beyond) outright paranoia - and with damned good reason. The idea of being on a "list", even if it's a list of "folks that are OK", isn't just "not good", it's outright terrifying to some of them. I, personally, would object as strongly as is possible to any such list existing at all, and would howl even louder if I were on it.

In short, you find out who the "good people" are by hanging out, cussin' and discussin', and keeping your eyes open. A good bit of advice, borrowed from Alcoholics Anonymous, is "until you've got 90 days or so, your best bet is to yank the cotton out of your ears and shove it in your mouth" - In less flowery terms, "shut up, listen lots, talk little, and figure out the lay of the land" before you start trying to do anything more than be a passive observer.
Boom! Truth! ‘Nuff said
 
If you want to know more and want to chat, you can move to pm or an app. Just because they are on the site for long or seem trustworthy does not mean they are. I was on BF and it was the same. Some people don't want contact. And you will have to respect that. Also this forum is not some regular chat for meeting people or hooking up.
 
Why? Whats the point? It just sounds like the fast pass in six flags. Once people buy the added luxury of getting on the coaster it just ends up being just as long as the normal line.
what makes you think that wouldn’t happen in a private place?
 
Why? Whats the point? It just sounds like the fast pass in six flags. Once people buy the added luxury of getting on the coaster it just ends up being just as long as the normal line.
what makes you think that wouldn’t happen in a private place?
Best description one could make and so true.
 
when i say there is list i mean not everyone gets access to it but those who are confirmed to be genuine only admins and those who are real get access to make meet ups more safer and less stressful

and i mean follow the giudelines set up but this list is for confirmed people and only meant for confirmed people who have showned there not fake with there actions

this list is a means of protecting those like minded who havent been confirmed

just wanted to ask if it might be doable
It would be technically doable to signal trust through confirmations by people who have met in real life. Admins could seed this trust web by confirming people whom they have met in real and have known for some time and those who have multiple confirmations could then also confirm other people.

Note however that confirmed persons would need to agree to meetings with you despite you not being known as trustworthy in the beginning. Any newbie isn't trustworthy by default. So someone trustworthy has to take the very risk when meeting you that you want to avoid for yourself by only meeting people who are already known to be genuine.

Since zoos are globally present, but are much more likely to connect locally, there would probably be the need for more than one seed or else this "web of trust" starting in America may not reach other continents for many years. But if anybody could seed a local trust web, you would need to be very careful again, since a single person could create multiple accounts that all confirm each other.

It would have to be possible to revoke trust.
Maybe given confirmations would also have to expire after some time, because people change over time. At least it should be known when confirmations have been given, ideally together with some description, e.g. did you just meet for a few minutes at a gas station or have you known each other for a longer time.

But here's another catch: A social graph of real life acquaintances created this way would be interesting for law enforcement or ill-meaning persons. If they uncover the real identity of one person and also know who knows whom personally thanks to all the confirmations, they can use that data to pressure one person after the other to give out information about their acquaintances and try to gain the real identities of huge parts or the whole network this way. So being confirmed as genuine would be risky.

The two points of confirming trustworthiness on the one hand and protecting people's identities on the other hand are really, really hard to bring together. It may be impossible.
 
That’s the reason I left the other zoo site….can’t remember the name. It wasn’t BF. Would hate to leave here, but that’s what would happen if “verification” is implemented.
 
Honestly.. I don't see the need for a list.. as many people have stated here.. it's pretty easy to weed out the fakes. I have honestly matured a lot since I joined the community.. and I do remember wanting "Now now now" which only drove people away. I say take the time to get to know some of the amazing people yourself and you'll find that some of the friendships you make are a lot better than wanting to hook up
 
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