Phone security - Forensic - Android - IPhone

[BojackFR]

Hi,
I'm wondering if there is phone who can't be break by people.
If I forgot my phone, or, in the worst case, if policeman take my phone, how can I be sure they will not be able to dump everything from it ?
I saw that android was not securised.

I saw, when IPhone SE2020 was release, that there was nothing who could break the apple encryption.
But I saw yesterday that this was not anymore true. There is a website, elcomsoft, who is selling a solution to dump everything from even new IPhone, and they explain that they don't use anymore the old exploit to dump files (which was checkra1n) and they have instead developped their home-agent to make the job.
You can find details here : https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2020/05/full-file-system-acquisition-for-ios-13-3-1-13-4-and-13-4-1/

It's quite technical english, and I'm not sure I've really understood everything.
But, am I right or wrong with this point ?

If I understand right, there is no secure phone, and if you loose your last IPhone, every one with 2.000$ could break it and get everything who was in it ?
@ZTHorse for example, do you use your phone to browse on website with your admin accounts ?

 

[newsirocco]

As a general rule - ANY electronic device can be cracked/hacked/whatever... It all depends on how much effort the hacker is willing to apply. And when it's a govt..well..they have an awful LOT of resources. The only saving grace for the average user is that the govt has a lot more urgent things to worry about than if you're screwing your pooch and keeping traces on your phone/whatever.

 

[BojackFR]

The ideal way would be to have a watch with a red button

 

[th10]

Rule number one: never keep sensitive files in your phone, use a proprietary and encrypted cloud
I suggest to browse internet with duckduckgo browser and set it in "amnesic" mode. When you close it, or after 30 minutes of inactivity, all browsing data are deleted; you can check it here

DuckDuckGo Gets iOS 14 Update, Can Be Set as Default Browser App

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www.macrumors.com

Moreover if you disconnect google and you use duckduckgo as search engine can be an improvement of anonimty

Other tool is Brave browser; it is a good alternative.

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apps.apple.com

Also stay behind a VPN is a good behavior to protect the data when you surf internet

Same tools are available for Android cell

 

[TonyUK]

Safest way to communicate would be via PC along a tor browser. This is untraceable (created by DARPA) even for CIA and as others have said this would only be attempted for high valued targets such as terrorist and unlikely this would interest any government agency as 99.9% people here are only talking and as such are not breaking any law. However if security is of interest then a tor browser (ip packets are distributed separately via unknown routes to each other) topped with a vpn (actually alot of data is trackable and even nord has be hacked) such as nord and then to top it off could include a harddrive data scrubber like "advanced system are utility" id also not suggest keeping any vids etc even encrpted. Even encro chat was easily cracked so encryption is not very secure.

 

[ZTHorse]

Hi,
I'm wondering if there is phone who can't be break by people.
If I forgot my phone, or, in the worst case, if policeman take my phone, how can I be sure they will not be able to dump everything from it ?
I saw that android was not securised.

I saw, when IPhone SE2020 was release, that there was nothing who could break the apple encryption.
But I saw yesterday that this was not anymore true. There is a website, elcomsoft, who is selling a solution to dump everything from even new IPhone, and they explain that they don't use anymore the old exploit to dump files (which was checkra1n) and they have instead developped their home-agent to make the job.
You can find details here : https://blog.elcomsoft.com/2020/05/full-file-system-acquisition-for-ios-13-3-1-13-4-and-13-4-1/

It's quite technical english, and I'm not sure I've really understood everything.
But, am I right or wrong with this point ?

If I understand right, there is no secure phone, and if you loose your last IPhone, every one with 2.000$ could break it and get everything who was in it ?
@ZTHorse for example, do you use your phone to browse on website with your admin accounts ?

Enable encryption on your android phone and harden it with a strong password. Only use Tor or VPN, and enable auto destruct if password fails more than 10 times.