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non spayed dogs

huskys

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hey everyone, i’ve always wondered this but never got a straight forward answer. is it possible to adopt an older female dog that has yet to be spayed? i heard sometimes they do it already and sometimes they try and make you do it after adoption, but would not doing it at all be an option if i’m not a breeder? i’ve never been with a female dog before, and since i can remember i’ve wanted to. i’ve only been with my male shiba inu, but he doesn’t like butt stuff :(
 
Not going to lie but a lot of people who give our dogs like rescues spay and neuter animals they have. Best way to find one is private sellers. They have more of a chance of not being spayed
 
hey everyone, i’ve always wondered this but never got a straight forward answer. is it possible to adopt an older female dog that has yet to be spayed? i heard sometimes they do it already and sometimes they try and make you do it after adoption, but would not doing it at all be an option if i’m not a breeder? i’ve never been with a female dog before, and since i can remember i’ve wanted to. i’ve only been with my male shiba inu, but he doesn’t like butt stuff :(
Also Shiba are way too small for "butt stuff" so call me crazy but that could be why.
 
Not going to lie but a lot of people who give our dogs like rescues spay and neuter animals they have. Best way to find one is private sellers. They have more of a chance of not being spayed
yeah :/ that’s why i always wondered how people got theirs, ive never thought of the private sellers though, thank you for that
 
Also Shiba are way too small for "butt stuff" so call me crazy but that could be why.
yeah that’s part of the reason, i realized after doing some research that it’s likely not possible with him, but even touching him near his butt he gets uncomfortable and walks away also
 
hey everyone, i’ve always wondered this but never got a straight forward answer. is it possible to adopt an older female dog that has yet to be spayed? i heard sometimes they do it already and sometimes they try and make you do it after adoption, but would not doing it at all be an option if i’m not a breeder? i’ve never been with a female dog before, and since i can remember i’ve wanted to. i’ve only been with my male shiba inu, but he doesn’t like butt stuff :(

Shelters usually have their dogs neutered and spayed, except maybe if the dog just arrived, or they are a small shelter without too much resources, in both cases most of the time they ask the new owner to do it (and then you don't, but some of them visit you in the following months to check the dogs).

But instead of only asking in a shelter, maybe look at adds for adoption in your area. They could be from people that need to relocate and can't take their dog, or have a baby and they are afraid, or they get it from a dead family member and can't take care of them. Also from people that find stray dogs and look for a new home avoiding shelters (as long as they can). In those cases you can ask if they are spayed (and if they say no, but that they will do it before give them to you, then you tell them not to worry, that you will pay for it and do it later with a vet friend.
 
I would try craigslist. That's where I got my unspayed mutt mix from. My unspayed Newfoundland girl was also a craigslist find as well, but she was picked up by a fellow zoo friend and later rehomed to me. Usually I'll just go to the pets section and search for "female." Generally in my local area around 20-40% of the adult female dogs listed for sale are unaltered.
 
you can always try adopting from someone who "decided they don't want to have a dog anymore" on like a craigslist or whatever is the site for that in your area. since my boy died in may i'm finally feeling ready to get another one... i already adopted one smaller shnauzer mix from the shelter, but he's neutered. i mostly got him because my girl really liked him (she also has company when i'm not home now) and he seemed like he could use a proper home. and now i'm using the aforementioned method to look for an intact one, because i do have room for a third dog.
 
But... to acquire a older bitch simply because you've always wanted to have sex with one, that's ... Well, two things. One, it sounds really "sex slavish." She will go into heat, and you'll likely be able to take advantage of her then. Would likely "work" -- but it's so creepy, if not just altogether immoral.

Then, two, you might be assuming too much. She's a mature dog you haven't developed a relationship with. The bonding that evolves, if it evolves, is not entirely predictable. So even if you get to take advantage of her in heat, there's a possibility you'll find out that the two of you are incompatible for some reason, relationally. You'd be in a spot then, right?

By comparison, it's similar to saying, "I've always dreamed of fucking a woman. Know where I can marry one? Then I can finally cross fucking a woman off my bucket list."

You sort of kinda wanna court a gal first, get a chance to know each other before you make such a life-altering, permanent relationship out of it. And it's really about a lot, lot more than just sex.

Is there more behind wanting to get a dog? Maybe you meant you were looking for another dog, anyway, and getting a mature unspayed female creates a potential for having a sexual aspect to your relationship that you *hope* might happen, a bonus outcome. Is that what you mean?

Either way, the answer to your initial question is, yep. A shelter in the metro area does neuter some animals, but not all. Those it does not, it requires you to sign an agreement that you will. However, there is no follow up and no penalty. So whoop-ti-do. A rescue society near here sometimes does neuter the animal and includes it in the rehoming fee. Those that they do not neuter, they require the adopter leave a check written for $100. If they do not receive proof of the neutering within 3 months, they cash it. But... since the cost of neutering a dog here is much more (males are $200 and more depending on weight), letting them cash the check is actually the cheaper way to go.

And yep, private owners need to find "forever homes" for mature dogs all the time, many of them intact -- but the emphasis is on "forever home," a place where she is loved and doesn't owe you sex in exchange for her well being or security.
 
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But... to acquire a older bitch simply because you've always wanted to have sex with one, that's ...

Is there more behind wanting to get a dog? I mean, it's entirely possible you'll adopt a mature unspayed dog only to find out she *isn't* receptive to interspecies sex, any more than your male is into "butt stuff" You'd be in a spot then, right?

By comparison, it's similar to saying, "I've always dreamed of fucking a woman. Where can I find one to marry?"

(You sort of want to court a gal first, get to know each other before you make such a life-altering, permanent arrangement. But maybe you meant you were looking for another dog, and by getting a mature unspayed female, you're kinda sorta hoping you'll happen to have a sexual relationship. If not, that's okay, too?)
We can only hope that a loving relationship, and not a relationship based solely on a sexual one, is the reason he's searching for a mature female dog. Funny enough, when my zoo friend gave me my Newfoundland girl, he didn't even mention how hyper-sexual she was. Only that she was gentle, smart, and loves other people and dogs. Maybe he was just testing me? Who knows?

For those reasons, and the fact that when she initially met me and my mutt mix, we all got along. I decided to take her in, since she desperately needed a home. (I'm sadly her 5-6th home, the other people he rehomed her to ended up being shitty, and he kept having to bail her out.) Her being a nympho was more of a delightful surprise.
 
We can only hope that a loving relationship, and not a relationship based solely on a sexual one, is the reason he's searching for a mature female dog. Funny enough, when my zoo friend gave me my Newfoundland girl, he didn't even mention how hyper-sexual she was. Only that she was gentle, smart, and loves other people and dogs. Maybe he was just testing me? Who knows?

For those reasons, and the fact that when she initially met me and my mutt mix, we all got along. I decided to take her in, since she desperately needed a home. (I'm sadly her 5-6th home, the other people he rehomed her to ended up being shitty, and he kept having to bail her out.) Her being a nympho was more of a delightful surprise.
Yes. Like that. I think that for you, like us, respect for our animals and our obligation to *them* comes first and foremost. Sex -- if there *is* ever a sexual aspect to the relationship -- it's always just an option we leave open. Encourage it? Invite it? Sure. But it's definitely not the reason we've adopted any of our dogs, and it's never required of them.

Consider that in adopting older dogs, you have no idea what their history has been. Was this dog or that one ever abused (physically, sexually, emotionally?). Was it ever neglected? Friendliest dogs in the world may have a trigger point you just wouldn't have guessed. Some little thing you do and *snap*! Surprise the hell out of you, no idea where that came from. Shelters, rescuers and private owners try very hard to let you know "all about" the dog before you commit to taking it home. How is it with other dogs? How is it with children? What age children? -- But they just can't tell you everything.

The very first thing the older dogs we've adopted needed to learn was that they were safe here, and to trust that this was permanent. They were "home." They were family now. It's not an instantaneous adjustment. Likewise, we had to come to know them, to trust them.

Recent example (deceased now three years, I guess): One old loving doofus we adopted at 6 years old (intact male with a huge package! ... couldn't help noticing that first thing) seemed like our dog the moment that we saw him. There was just this "connection." We got to walk him, learn about him, etc. Then we went home without him. A week went by and, yep, we were certain. That great big old dog needed to be in our home. He'd been in that old shelter too long.

He was just a big old gentle giant, timid, even -- until I went to put his new collar on a week or so after we'd settled him in our home. He whirled around and slashed at my hand and continued crouching and snarling at me, barking savagely (very loud voice, this dog). This was a total shock, a complete 180 in his temperament. I stood firm, maintained dominance (but out of reach, of course). I was able to talk him down but took some doing. But I gave up trying to do the collar just then. He was a huge dog capable of inflicting considerable damage. And yeah, my first thought was: "Oh hell no. No no no. He's going back. I can't have him doing that." That defensiveness, that hostility, it was something we always had to watch out for after that. Didn't really turn on people after that. But turned out he did *not* tolerate small dogs. He'd try to kill them. Oh, and deathly afraid of storms. Afraid of *rain*. Heck, I think he was afraid of gray cloudy days.

No one told us about this streak in him. I don't think they knew. We always wondered what his history must have been. How did he get like that? What had happened to him? But we managed. We loved him. And one of the kids, he just melted around her when she visited (she was in her 20s). And he became a beloved member of the family. His big old paw prints hang on our wall and two of the kids' walls at their homes. That favorite daughter has his ashes on her mantle.

Sexually? We had tried a couple times. He would let you jack him. You could suck him. Or try (enormous tool). It "worked," it got hard, big knot, lots of squirting cum -- but just really wasn't interested. Indifferent to it, might be the word. Tolerated it? Didn't seem to enjoy it, just "allowed" it. So, we scratched that off the list. Physically, responsive. Mentally, psychologically? Wasn't there. Just not fun sexually with him. We don't enjoy coercion, "concession." It's abuse.

But he did become playful with us, otherwise. And he was an absolute nut for snow. He thought nature did that just for him. He bounded around in it, tried to snap snowflakes out of the air, dove into it and rolled around, wriggling. There's just something about "your" dog, when your dog becomes "your" dog, and you become "his." It's just magical. You didn't know each other previously, but now you seem as though you've always been together. You are committed to each other. Period. Faults and weaknesses included. You belong to each other. Home.

Just saying all this as a word of warning to the OP -- Lots of things to consider beyond just, "Are her reproductive organs intact." Finding the dog is one thing. Committing to the dog is entirely another. Sex is a happy option sometimes. Sometimes it's not. You won't know right off. Takes time. Fingers crossed.

-- And of course, none of the OP's question concerned this. The question was just "Is it possible to find a mature, intact female." More wasn't mentioned so, just making sure this other stuff is also considered. If not for the OP, at least for anyone reading this thread with similar ideas.
 
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Yes. Like that. I think that for you, like us, respect for our animals and our obligation to *them* comes first and foremost. Sex -- if there *is* ever a sexual aspect to the relationship -- it's always just an option we leave open. Encourage it? Invite it? Sure. But it's definitely not the reason we've adopted any of our dogs, and it's never required of them.

Consider that in adopting older dogs, you have no idea what their history has been. Was this dog or that one ever abused (physically, sexually, emotionally?). Was it ever neglected? Friendliest dogs in the world may have a trigger point you just wouldn't have guessed. Some little thing you do and *snap*! Surprise the hell out of you, no idea where that came from. Shelters, rescuers and private owners try very hard to let you know "all about" the dog before you commit to taking it home. How is it with other dogs? How is it with children? What age children? -- But they just can't tell you everything.

The very first thing the older dogs we've adopted needed to learn was that they were safe here, and to trust that this was permanent. They were "home." They were family now. It's not an instantaneous adjustment. Likewise, we had to come to know them, to trust them.

Recent example (deceased now three years, I guess): One old loving doofus we adopted at 6 years old (intact male with a huge package! ... couldn't help noticing that first thing) seemed like our dog the moment that we saw him. There was just this "connection." We got to walk him, learn about him, etc. Then we went home without him. A week went by and, yep, we were certain. That great big old dog needed to be in our home. He'd been in that old shelter too long.

He was just a big old gentle giant, timid, even -- until I went to put his new collar on a week or so after we'd settled him in our home. He whirled around and slashed at my hand and continued crouching and snarling at me, barking savagely (very loud voice, this dog). This was a total shock, a complete 180 in his temperament. I stood firm, maintained dominance (but out of reach, of course). I was able to talk him down but took some doing. But I gave up trying to do the collar just then. He was a huge dog capable of inflicting considerable damage. And yeah, my first thought was: "Oh hell no. No no no. He's going back. I can't have him doing that." That defensiveness, that hostility, it was something we always had to watch out for after that. Didn't really turn on people after that. But turned out he did *not* tolerate small dogs. He'd try to kill them. Oh, and deathly afraid of storms. Afraid of *rain*. Heck, I think he was afraid of gray cloudy days.

No one told us about this streak in him. I don't think they knew. We always wondered what his history must have been. How did he get like that? What had happened to him? But we managed. We loved him. And one of the kids, he just melted around her when she visited (she was in her 20s). And he became a beloved member of the family. His big old paw prints hang on our wall and two of the kids' walls at their homes. That favorite daughter has his ashes on her mantle.

Sexually? We had tried a couple times. He would let you jack him. You could suck him. Or try (enormous tool). It "worked," it got hard, big knot, lots of squirting cum -- but just really wasn't interested. Indifferent to it, might be the word. Tolerated it? Didn't seem to enjoy it, just "allowed" it. So, we scratched that off the list. Just not fun sexually with him.

But he did become playful with us, otherwise. And he was an absolute nut for snow. He thought nature did that just for him. He bounded around in it, tried to snap snowflakes out of the air, dove into it and rolled around, wriggling. There's just something about "your" dog, when your dog becomes "your" dog, and you become "his." It's just magical. You didn't know each other previously, but now you seem as though you've always been together. You are committed to each other. Period. Faults and weaknesses included. You belong to each other. Home.

Just saying all this as a word of warning to the OP -- Lots of things to consider beyond just, "Are her reproductive organs intact." Finding the dog is one thing. Committing to the dog is entirely another. Sex is a happy option sometimes. Sometimes it's not. You won't know right off. Takes time. Fingers crossed.

-- And of course, none of the OP's question concerned this. The question was just "Is it possible to find a mature, intact female." More wasn't mentioned so, just making sure this other stuff is also considered. If not for the OP, at least for anyone reading this thread with similar ideas.
to be completely honest, getting my late boy (whom i adopted as a 10 years old) from quivering mess, fearing his own shadow to a confident fellow straight-up asking for sex made the sex even more magical... and i originally didn't even get him with the thought of sex, he was just a boy who needed to learn what "feeling safe and loved" means.

i strongly agree with getting a dog where sex is the first thing on one's mind being wrong, but to be truthful i do browse mainly through intact dogs available for adoption as i'm looking for a new addition to the family. i just want the option to be on the table. i kinda hope the OP sees it like that, too. that intact doesn't mean guaranteed sex just a possibility.
 
... but to be truthful i do browse mainly through intact dogs available for adoption as i'm looking for a new addition to the family. i just want the option to be on the table. i kinda hope the OP sees it like that, too. that intact doesn't mean guaranteed sex just a possibility.
Perfecto! Exactly how we roll. I couldn't help but notice the massive, intact package on the "doofus." But that was just a bonus. It was his reaction to us, his general demeanor, the "hopeless" look on his face, like: "You won't want me. I know. I've been here forever. I'm too old." And then our interactions with him on our stroll about the shelter's campus. We thought about it all week and committed to getting him. All the way there (60 miles), I kept thinking, "Oh boy. What if he *is* interested sexually? Holy crap! We'll be the envy of zoo couples everywhere. We have our own Hector!"

So yep, it's something that's on our mind. But as I mentioned above, that's not exactly how it turned out. A lackluster partner, sexually. It was like, "Well, if you *have* to, I'll let you. *sigh* Go for it, if you need to." ... No joy. So, we crossed that off the list, but we loved him anyway.

And in exchange, he was in a *home*... HIS home ... for his last three years, where he was loved and cherished and part of a family till the day he was laid to rest in my own arms, ending his suffering from congestive heart failure. He was mourned by those of us in his family and... we still keep him alive in our memories and in our stories of him.

Adopt an older dog? You're in for a ride. Enjoy!
 
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