Need help understanding my gf's dog

[Pencilcased]

My gf has a two year old, intact bulldog mix. Whenever we are making out or are getting sexual in any way, he comes over to us, wagging his tail, trying to be close to us.
When one of us takes our pants off, he immediately tries to lick cock, balls, pussy or ass.
Sometimes, when he is licking her, he will start to thrust in the air. When I'm fucking my gf from behind he tries to get in to lick both of us. Sometimes he even tries mounting me.
From all of this behavior it seems to me that he is very interested in joining our play.
My gf and I have recently become interested in involving him more. However I'm not really sure how to take the next step with him. There has been one time where his penis came out and we were able to massage his knot which got him big and hard quickly and caused him to spray some very liquidy clear cum in continuous bursts.

However, we have only managed that once. Most times when I put my hand on his sheath while he is licking my gf and thrusting the air, he will stop and move away. When he does, I leave him alone and after a few seconds he will go back to licking her and eventually thrusting.

How do we proceed from here? We want him to feel comfortable and play with him more. Both my gf and I are very excided about the idea of him fucking her. Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

[YanchaOkami]

It's a good thing you've not stressed him and let him decide what he wants to participate in.
If he goes away, that's his decision, nothing to be confused about. It might take a while for him to actually understand that you both are inviting and allowing him for further participation.

As I am no expert in the "male dog with female human" combination, others might be able to give you a better overview of what worked for them.

There are the "How-To's / Educational" areas of the forum for several further collected information:

How To's and Educational

Guides, FAQs, How-To's, and anything educational related to animal love.

www.zoovilleforum.net

As example: https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/how-to-receive-dogs.24/

It's always interesting to stop the sexual activities (no matter the participating sexes) and just cuddle and hug with the dog to actually signalize him that he is welcomed to be there, that there's no need for him to stay away. Your dog seems to be quite careful, not requesting anything himself and staying out of the action to some degree.

From what you wrote it might be problematic if your girlfriend would place herself in the doggy style position, as it doesn't read like your dog is that big to actually reach her without problems? This could be easier interpreted from a dog as "missionary style" is not a recognizable thing between dogs.

Maybe kneeing low and presenting her backside to him might help getting the idea of "participation" into his view, but I wouldn't suggest you both to try any active copulation out without prior having experienced his swollen up size outside of any body orifice, as the surprise else could be a painful one. As such the masturbation hints / tips in the How-To area might help you both to get a much clearer image of what to expect and maybe to analyze his interest further.

 

[Pencilcased]

It's a good thing you've not stressed him and let him decide what he wants to participate in.
If he goes away, that's his decision, nothing to be confused about. It might take a while for him to actually understand that you both are inviting and allowing him for further participation.

As I am no expert in the "male dog with female human" combination, others might be able to give you a better overview of what worked for them.

There are the "How-To's / Educational" areas of the forum for several further collected information:

How To's and Educational

Guides, FAQs, How-To's, and anything educational related to animal love.

www.zoovilleforum.net

As example: https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/how-to-receive-dogs.24/

It's always interesting to stop the sexual activities (no matter the participating sexes) and just cuddle and hug with the dog to actually signalize him that he is welcomed to be there, that there's no need for him to stay away. Your dog seems to be quite careful, not requesting anything himself and staying out of the action to some degree.

From what you wrote it might be problematic if your girlfriend would place herself in the doggy style position, as it doesn't read like your dog is that big to actually reach her without problems? This could be easier interpreted from a dog as "missionary style" is not a recognizable thing between dogs.

Maybe kneeing low and presenting her backside to him might help getting the idea of "participation" into his view, but I wouldn't suggest you both to try any active copulation out without prior having experienced his swollen up size outside of any body orifice, as the surprise else could be a painful one. As such the masturbation hints / tips in the How-To area might help you both to get a much clearer image of what to expect and maybe to analyze his interest further.

Thank you for your input. I did actually read all of the "how to"s already. His behavior just seems contradictory to me. He seemingly loves to lick and air hump but doesn't want to be touched. He tries to mount me but not her.

And yes his size does make it a little hard for him to mount properly. But so far he hasn't even tried and when I tried to help him up, he jumped off pretty much immediately. Should I just give him more time or is there something I can do better?

 

[YanchaOkami]

His behavior just seems contradictory to me.

Oh, you've read them already. That's responsible and a very good start.

Regarding behavior: You don't know the thoughts your dog might form and connect in his mind - and which might act as a barrier: "Oh, because of X, I don't think trying this out would be a good idea". Or which might result out of inexperience with his own sexual "life".

Between canides it is not that rare to see one mounting a female and others actually try to hump -him-. This as well is visible on packs of wolves. It has a relevance to "respecting what the one humping does - and preventing to actually anger this one, but on the same time trying to participate or find a chance".

As you are actively copulating with your girlfriend and your dog is regarding his behavior and your told experience respecting your stance with her, this might play a role, but it could as well be a misunderstanding or unsure thoughts on his side. As example in regards to the expected position (of a female dog, as example), which you would actually resemble more than your girlfriend, if you copulate with your girlfriend in a missionary position and while doing this, even lower your upper body to her.

To give him time and to show him your both interest is a good thing, it doesn't stress him and might build his trust and understanding over time so that he might participate more actively.

You could - as a quick check, if your dog has an interest in your girlfriend at all - test, how he reacts if you leave the room and go in another room, while your girlfriend stays and as example knees deep on the bed, calling your dog up to her.

But it would resemble a situation in which your girlfriends reaction could as well confuse or scare your dog, if spontaneous.

If in this case he actually would try to hump her.. then it would be contra-productive to forbid this from him or scold him - best would be if your girlfriend just rolled aside and cuddled with him to prevent active copulation (if that's possible by the size difference without external help), but on the same time tell him how great he did what he tried - and what a good dog he is. This might reduce his preoccupied fears / thoughts a bit and you would see if he has an interest in her.

The possibility is there that he might direct his interest spontaneous to your girlfriend in such a situation - as such it all depends on the preparedness of your girlfriend and a friendly, welcoming but easy and quick way to prevent potentially unwanted "surprise-success" from him.

Regarding the pre-cum (basically lubricating liquid with very low to no amount of spermatozoon) event you resulted in one time: that's actually a good sign, but it would need quite a bit more stimulation for him to orgasm.

Maybe he's not sure or not experienced with his own orgasms and it could be advantageous to have him know how it feels, but if he doesn't show a real interest in stimulation, that's somewhat complicated.

Others might be able to help you better in this case, as I am no expert for "bringing up the interest in male dogs", I mostly just stimulate them for their own happiness and relief if they show interest themself - and I only copulate with females (dogs mostly) myself, the few exceptions "out of interest" a quarter millennia ago to be not counted for.

 

[Pencilcased]

Oh, you've read them already. That's responsible and a very good start.

Regarding behavior: You don't know the thoughts your dog might form and connect in his mind - and which might act as a barrier: "Oh, because of X, I don't think trying this out would be a good idea". Or which might result out of inexperience with his own sexual "life".

Between canides it is not that rare to see one mounting a female and others actually try to hump -him-. This as well is visible on packs of wolves. It has a relevance to "respecting what the one humping does - and preventing to actually anger this one, but on the same time trying to participate or find a chance".

As you are actively copulating with your girlfriend and your dog is regarding his behavior and your told experience respecting your stance with her, this might play a role, but it could as well be a misunderstanding or unsure thoughts on his side. As example in regards to the expected position (of a female dog, as example), which you would actually resemble more than your girlfriend, if you copulate with your girlfriend in a missionary position and while doing this, even lower your upper body to her.

To give him time and to show him your both interest is a good thing, it doesn't stress him and might build his trust and understanding over time so that he might participate more actively.

You could - as a quick check, if your dog has an interest in your girlfriend at all - test, how he reacts if you leave the room and go in another room, while your girlfriend stays and as example knees deep on the bed, calling your dog up to her.

But it would resemble a situation in which your girlfriends reaction could as well confuse or scare your dog, if spontaneous.

If in this case he actually would try to hump her.. then it would be contra-productive to forbid this from him or scold him - best would be if your girlfriend just rolled aside and cuddled with him to prevent active copulation (if that's possible by the size difference without external help), but on the same time tell him how great he did what he tried - and what a good dog he is. This might reduce his preoccupied fears / thoughts a bit and you would see if he has an interest in her.

The possibility is there that he might direct his interest spontaneous to your girlfriend in such a situation - as such it all depends on the preparedness of your girlfriend and a friendly, welcoming but easy and quick way to prevent potentially unwanted "surprise-success" from him.

Regarding the pre-cum (basically lubricating liquid with very low to no amount of spermatozoon) event you resulted in one time: that's actually a good sign, but it would need quite a bit more stimulation for him to orgasm.

Maybe he's not sure or not experienced with his own orgasms and it could be advantageous to have him know how it feels, but if he doesn't show a real interest in stimulation, that's somewhat complicated.

Others might be able to help you better in this case, as I am no expert for "bringing up the interest in male dogs", I mostly just stimulate them for their own happiness and relief if they show interest themself - and I only copulate with females (dogs mostly) myself, the few exceptions "out of interest" a quarter millennia ago to be not counted for.

Thank you again. a couple of clarifications: it's her dog. Not mine. And in the instances he tried to mount me, I was fucking her in doggy. He likes licking her in either position but also does not try to mount her in either position.

 

[YanchaOkami]

Not a problem.
I read it as "our dog", that's why I wrote "yours".

You were active with her in doggy style but he still didn't try to mount her (even if you went aside), that's curious. Dogs can taste pheromones (as example in sexual smell / taste transferring substances aka body liquids) which explains his arousing and air humping while licking.

And you already tried how he reacts if you leave the room, as example? If he shows still no further interest in her, that's surprising, but okay. He might as well not know where he stands in this situation, what would be expected from him and so on. Or he has quite the low interest in it, that's as well possible - not all dogs love to copulate at any time with any sex and neither with members of a different species.

Probably another user with explicit experience in regards of gaining male dogs interest in active stimulation or penetration (dog copulates with human) might write you the fitting idea or solution in this regards.

 

[Pencilcased]

Not a problem.
I read it as "our dog", that's why I wrote "yours".

You were active with her in doggy style but he still didn't try to mount her (even if you went aside), that's curious. Dogs can taste pheromones (as example in sexual smell / taste transferring substances aka body liquids) which explains his arousing and air humping while licking.

And you already tried how he reacts if you leave the room, as example? If he shows still no further interest in her, that's surprising, but okay. He might as well not know where he stands in this situation, what would be expected from him and so on. Or he has quite the low interest in it, that's as well possible - not all dogs love to copulate at any time with any sex and neither with members of a different species.

Probably another user with explicit experience in regards of gaining male dogs interest in active stimulation or penetration (dog copulates with human) might write you the fitting idea or solution in this regards.

Yeah, I found that curious as well. I moved to the side, even spread her for him, trying to be encouraging. He licks her but won't do more. But I have noticed that he also looks at me and tilts his head in those situations.

And yes, I have sometimes left them alone like there was an alarm going off on my phone in the other room and he continued licking her while I was away but that was it.

I think he is not a very assertive dog in general. He is very friendly and tries to be very accommodating. Both with other dogs as well as with people. The only times he complains is when he wants to join us on the couch but there is no space or he needs to potty. Maybe he just needs some more encouragement?

The two most likely reasons for this are that you could use improvement in your hand job technique, or he may just prefer to have sex when mounted. He is already mounting and licking and getting excited so I think he has cleared the psychological barriers on having sex with you both.

Most dogs get a very quick reaction to being given a hand job that is almost involuntary. Early when I started with dogs I thought none of my dogs liked hand jobs. They would react similar to yours although some had more patience with me trying. I figured out later that my particular problem was not squeezing hard enough. I care about them so I was extra gentle when beginning. Dogs like it tighter than I would and after fixing that there is no dog I can't get a reaction out of. There is one dog I know that really doesn't like handjobs but he still physically reacts like any other dog with a full boner. I don't know what your particular issue could be but I suggest reading the guides again with a focus on hand job technique and see if that gives you any ideas. If it doesn't then you can post a detailed description of what you're doing and I can give you tips.

Some dogs respond a lot better when fully mounted. When he decides to mount you, try reaching around back slowly to grab his penis and start giving him a handjob. Hopefully he will start thrusting like crazy as soon are you start jerking behind his knot.

Once he gets learns for sure mounting is the thing to do and results in his enjoyment, you can try penetration with whoever wishes to do that. It would be the same process of waiting until he mounts, jerking him, but this time when he starts thrusting angle his penis towards your port of entry.

Thank you. This might be the problem. I am usually pretty gentle when touching him. I don't want to hurt him or make him feel uncomfortable.
His cock is usually still fully inside his sheath. How do I know when it's the right time to touch him?

 

[Pencilcased]

Dogs tend to experiment with people who are not their owner because the boundaries are better established with her. They also tend to get more excited when new people come around and excitement really helps a dog want to try sex. I think the way to go is encouraging the mounting behavior with you since he does it with you now. If you jerk him well he should become very interested in mounting and then be more motivated to try with his owner.


The times you have been picking aren't bad. He doesn't have patience to let you experiment. Try again. Once you put your hand on him start the hand job immediately without hesitation, wrap your thumb and pointer finger (like an a-okay hand sign) around the sheath behind his knot, squeeze and apply consistent pressure (more than you would when masturbating), jerk as rapidly as you can in the space between the back of his knot and the start of where his penis comes out of his body. At this point, what he should enjoy the most is the pressure and bumping the back of his knot with your jerking motion (like ringing a bell).

Trying a hand job is a sexual situation can give him a libido boost which is good, but another time that can be good is when he is not focused on anything. He might be hyper-focused on licking and not ready to be distracted. Imagine a dog pointing with his nose at a door to go outside; it is hard to budge them from their focus.

Although a hand job when mounted always gets a better sexual response than non-mounted, getting consistent success in non-mounted is the best thing to try first. You want to know exactly how to please him first because there are less chances to get that right when mounted and give him the best positive association so he mounts more.

This is gold. Thank you so much!