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My friend has been exposed, but I can't reach out.

Wonderingcowboy

Wonderingcowboy

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So last week a friend of mine was exposed by someone in his neighborhood, The police had shown up at his home wanting to see his dog and asking him a lot of questions, another friend of ours told me not to reach out and that everything should be okay. Not sure how to be supportive without being dragged in myself?
 
pes said:
Posting this is technically putting you in danger. If you can not help him, identifying yourself as someone close to someone who has recently been busted is not helping you.
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Nor would it help the friend as it provides another avenue for police to try to get information from.

My default has been that if any of my friends were to be accused and I were asked about it I would say that I didn't believe the rumor and drop it.
If I had secure communication with them that wasn't tied to either of us and I was certain wasnt compromised, I might send them a short note to let them know they aren't alone.
In most places, what your friend needs to do is get an attorney. If there's a chance of you getting dragged into it, you might want to get some contact info for one yourself. There's nothing wrong with having a good legal contact should you need one, it's smart and normal. Attorneys are best sought out when you don't desperately need them, check into their history and try to keep in mind that they might not be cheap, but are often worth far more than they cost.

Edit: It is probably a good time to examine your data, make sure there is no incriminating evidence. Ensure all devices are using encryption, etc and purge any unwanted data.
 
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egoldstein said:
Nor would it help the friend as it provides another avenue for police to try to get information from.

My default has been that if any of my friends were to be accused and I were asked about it I would say that I didn't believe the rumor and drop it.
If I had secure communication with them that wasn't tied to either of us and I was certain wasnt compromised, I might send them a short note to let them know they aren't alone.
In most places, what your friend needs to do is get an attorney. If there's a chance of you getting dragged into it, you might want to get some contact info for one yourself. There's nothing wrong with having a good legal contact should you need one, it's smart and normal. Attorneys are best sought out when you don't desperately need them, check into their history and try to keep in mind that they might not be cheap, but are often worth far more than they cost.

Edit: It is probably a good time to examine your data, make sure there is no incriminating evidence. Ensure all devices are using encryption, etc and purge any unwanted data.
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We've always taken precaution never to text or email about our love lives.
 
Unless it gets media attention law enforcement isn’t going to do much. Especially if there’s no harm to the animal.An animal cruelty charge to fight in court. Your friend needs to STFU and get a lawyer. As for yourself, don’t insert yourself into the situation unless you are prepared or the backlash.
 
First of all, it would have to be determined whether in your place, zoo is a crime. Then, establish what your friend is accused of. And your loyalty to Him, does not go through the Zoo or not. It is foolish to think that those who assist him, whether legally or not, will be branded as accomplices. Proving this is almost impossible...For your safety, treat the whole situation with caution and common sense, always assessing your own level of exposure. For the rest, whether your friend was exposed will depend on the quality and quantity of the evidence provided, and the subsequent judicial evaluation of the same. Keep in touch:unsure:
 
Sheppermutt said:
...or your friend incriminated themselves when talking to the police...
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Happens way too often. Been some years ago now, but were some folks who were being questioned about an accidental butt-dialing and long voicemail that got left and the accused basically confessed making it super easy.
 
theres actually an easier way to avoid all of this.

people should just be nice to other people, be honest about sex. law enforcement shouldnt get involved just because the media does. its not the medias decision to make.
but law enforcement and crackpots who like to see flashing lights still do stupid things when there is no media attention, provoking what they want to be a real problem just because they want media attention or because they want to take somebody down to satisfy themselves. and people accept that. people dont care if there is no harm to animals they want to cause the harm to anything and anyone themselves, especially people they made up some prejudice about, because thats all they find interesting or thrilling about life.

people wouldnt be threatened to fight a cruelty charge in court, and lose because the accusers have an addiction to fighting and hurting people who dont, to make themselves feel superior, and will be just as dishonest judging somebody in court as they are anywhere else, as the reason why all this happened in the first place.
doesnt have to happen, and it doesnt really justify itself just because it does happen.

gosh you think all the people would be smarter and happy with what they have, they could have anything they wanted otherwise. they all just take it for granted.
so this is what, they spend their own animals entire lives talking down to us, don't really enjoy anything else they do or have, and trying to keep other people from enjoying animals and now theirs is gone so they got another and they do the same thing. and people who are really attracted to animals, really enjoying having things and really care about their own cant have or see them because some nitwits didn't want to get along, not even just thinking that we could be happy from hundreds or thousands of miles away from them anyways.

i dont know if your friend is the best person in the world anyways or just another one of these guys, but otherwise being supportive means knowing this was totally preventable. not just his responsibility. there only so much you can do with so many monsters and everything here.
 
kuberi said:
Tell this to EDP
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thats how i got my ptsd talking to sick people.
stresses me out knowing people might be telling the guy its his fault like he didnt do enough to keep himself safe or be successful like its his fault.
 
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