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Moving to another country

lulaso

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So here's kind of an odd thread. Not sure if this is the correct section to put it, please move it if it isn't. Or delete it if it isn't allowed :(


I am a 28 year old straight male. I come from a somewhat poor country and planning to move to another country for studies and then settling there itself.

But at the same time, I want to explore my sexuality.

The dating scene is horrible in my country, combine that with my introvert personality making things worse. Which is probably why I ended up into beastiality.

I am mainly into women on dogs and men on dogs.



You guys got any suggestions?
 
So your sexuality is bisexual and into people. You would not be into animals if you could have a human partner?
Then move to whatever country you like. Chances are there will be people to date there. These things are everywhere today even in Antarctica and Space. :D
 
So your sexuality is bisexual and into people. You would not be into animals if you could have a human partner?
Then move to whatever country you like. Chances are there will be people to date there. These things are everywhere today even in Antarctica and Space. :D

I am kind of confused. :D

I like dicks, but I am never falling in love with a man and not even interested in gay sex.
I like beastiality, I will have sex with a female dog or suck a male dog's dick, but I am never falling in love with an animal.

I love animals in general, I must have spent thousands of dollars feeding street animals and taking them to the doctors when in need.

But I don't love them like a couple in love who dream about each other and cannot get them out of each other's head.



While there are a lot of aspects such as immigration laws, property prices, settlement plans, retirement plans, etc. Exploring myself is also one of them, which I cannot do in my own country due to extremely conservative views.

Luckily, I am tall, good looking and look 20 at the age of 28, (thank you to my parents for the good genes :))


I am not sure whether to choose North America or Europe.
Even language isn't a problem as I want to learn another one or two.
 
i am very confused, what kind of suggestions are you looking for? what country has zoos? any i guess?
what is your current country?
 
I am looking for which country has the highest amount of zoophiles or open minded to it.
well, that's making me shake my head even more (i'd even call it a dumb/naive question), why or how do you expect anyone to know the answer? it's not like zoos are a high-profile kind of folk.... it's also not like ppl tattoo their attractions on their foreheads, how would you even go about getting an answer?

this forum is more or less just an echo chamber making it look like there is much more zoos than there really are and i highly doubt the "% of population being zoo" is somehow higher in certain countries... i bet it's not even that different when comparing city-folk and rural-folk (ignoring country making any difference)
 
Last time I checked the census did not have a sexuality box on it, to say nothing of an "engages in illegal interspecies attraction" box.

Even if you wanted to rely on internet figures they'd be anecdotal at best and would be skewed by percent of population with access to internet technology. So it would appear that 3rd world countries have none when I guarantee they do.
 
So here's kind of an odd thread. Not sure if this is the correct section to put it, please move it if it isn't. Or delete it if it isn't allowed :(


I am a 28 year old straight male. I come from a somewhat poor country and planning to move to another country for studies and then settling there itself.

But at the same time, I want to explore my sexuality.

The dating scene is horrible in my country, combine that with my introvert personality making things worse. Which is probably why I ended up into beastiality.

I am mainly into women on dogs and men on dogs.



You guys got any suggestions?
If you think about moving to the United States, you have to think carefully about where. Our country is diverse based on both our different regions and the local differences between urban and rural culture.

For instance, you might have heard that American education standards are lower than you would expect for a western country, but if you took the Commonwealth of Massachusetts as a country, then Massachusetts would blow most of western Europe out of the water.

However, you might have also heard that California is a progressive and permissive culture, but before you move there, you might want to think about a few different problems. For instance, California has a very conservative belt there that is really just as uptight as any other conservative belt in the country, and even in the cities there, there can be violence against people that have what the people there consider to be deviant ways of life. Also, California DOES have cultural hang-ups, but they are DIFFERENT cultural hang-ups from the rest of the nation: in the seemingly more liberal centers there, you might get a feeling that anything is allowed there, but then you find out that something that would be allowed almost everywhere else in the world is something that you are supposed to "know" is not tolerated anywhere in the world at all, even though you really know (without the quotation marks) that this isn't so.

Customs are different in different parts of the country. For instance, my favorite custom to talk about is the idea of obligatory footwear, and the reason why is that I have been exposed to both sides of that discussion. I have been exposed to cultures, in the United States, where people would go into bars barefoot and dance, and nobody thought anything about it, but I have also been exposed to cultures where being caught anywhere except the beach without any shoes on (and you were expected to wear flipflops at the pool) was considered to be not only extreme cause for alarm but also regarded as a social expectation that you were supposed to "know" (again with quotes) for a fact is something that is expected "everywhere" (it's really not, but you are still supposed to know this, even though it isn't so).

Something to know about every single culture in the world is that there are certain cultural expectations that, once you are there, you are expected to "know" are expected of all mentally healthy people everywhere in the world. Even Muslim headscarf rules, if you try to tell them that their way is just a custom that is not really expected everywhere, they say, "And look where that got America!" If you even dare tell them, "you mean rich?" they will scoff and say, "riots, crime, families falling apart, rampant divorce, criminals for leaders, and everyone drinking alcohol until their livers rot!" and in their countries, the "fact" that even thinking about letting go of the headscarf rule leads to social disaster is just "true" to everyone there. A custom is never really a custom, in the minds of people that practice that custom, but they assume that it must be intuitive. They assume that you must have serious mental problems if you were not born knowing it.

And the real trouble is that you run into those unexpected customs-not-considered-customs literally everywhere you go, even in highly educated and cosmopolitan cities in highly educated and cosmopolitan countries. You cannot get away from them, and the minute you run into that one expectation that you know is not universal, they will never believe you that people everywhere else have never heard of that idea. The younger they are and the less well-traveled they are, the more sure they are that anywhere that it's not just "normal behavior" must be a terrible, benighted place.

What I would do, then, is plan on moving to a country that has good institutions of higher education and plenty of jobs in the field that I wanted to study, but once I got there, I would make a point of trying to get to know people that have traveled in other countries often or other people that came from other countries, even if it were not my own country that they came from. Well traveled people or fellow transplants are a lot more likely than locals who have never traveled to understand what social expectations there are believed by the people there to be the "laws of nature."

And remember always the wisdom of Bernard Shaw: "Pardon him, Theodotus, he is a barbarian and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature." You find barbarians everywhere you go, no matter what, and they are always certain that their highly specific taboos are natural laws that every sane person is born knowing. This is universal. Keeping well-traveled people in your life, who have had opportunities to learn that what is considered to be normal where they live is not really true everywhere, will keep you from going insane if you ever have to live in a country besides the country where you were born.

Finally, you might hear some people saying that the US has issues. Certain places DO have issues, but I strongly suggest evaluating places to move based on what SPECIFICALLY the metro area is really like, and even when you have picked a metro area, I would suggest carefully picking a relatively cosmopolitan and diverse neighborhood there with a lot of fellow transplants in it. Every country has good places and totally messed-up places in it, but just because one country has a higher proportion of totally messed-up places in it, that does not mean that the good places always share those problems based on association. Just because one country is overall pretty good, that does not mean that you can't find dysfunctional places in them. Make your choice based, as much as possible, on what specifically it is like to actually live in the exact location you are thinking of moving to. Research the history and cultures of specific neighborhoods if possible. This will save you a lot of trouble later on.

Again, I must stress, the "nuts and bolts" (as in practically significant) topic you ought to think about is education standards and jobs. Everywhere you go, no matter how bizarre the customs, you can usually live a fairly good quality of life if there is good education and jobs there. It is hard to really survive anywhere without those things. I would give that the top priority. Your survival must come first.
 
I am looking for which country has the highest amount of zoophiles or open minded to it.
What kind of question is that, bro. You think anyone would tell you openly? You get lynched for next to nothing nowadays. In my opinion, just by reading your posts, maybe try to acquaint yourself with some people from the country you plan to go beforehand. You need to be really "worldwise" to make a move into a foreign land by yourself, and it sounds like you will be taken advantage of, chewed up and spit out (no offense) if you hang about without some friends help, etc.

Do you look like George Clooney or David Beckham? Do you have a lot of money? Are you as funny as a stand-up comedian? Is your basement 8 inch plus long? if you answered no to all of these questions, I would forget Europe and US if you have aspirations of great sexual prowess to be honest. Move somewhere you will be seen as hot commodity.
And certainly forget about the zoophilia beyond wank trips, etc
 
here’s the best advice without being ridiculously verbose...????...you have 5 state choices in the USA...West Virginia, Wyoming, Washington DC, New Mexico or Hawaii.....those 5 states you will be legal to do as you desire....good luck
 
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