Is it dieing?

[K9lust]

Hey ya all.

Just my thoughts.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I noticed that more and more site's are getting down or infectedwith cp, new stuff isn't getting posted anymore, which I truly understand because people are trying to identify who the person in the content is, and when they find out that it is a member they get spammed (full inbox etc etc) or content is downloaded here and it pops up on other sites without any permission

Sites like this one is for like minded people who are proud of there lifestyle, and also people who are new into this.

Don't you see that people are getting scared to post anyt new content, or other stuff just because they are getting confronted with a sort of aggressive approach or their content is getting spread without permision, this causes a negative spiral other members getting more and more suspicious, especially to newbies while a lot of new people are really into this.

The long time effects is, members who are really dedicated are going away from here.

Once again this are just my thoughts, and don't want to point with my finger, my English isn't the best in the world sorry for that..

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

So, are you just venting about your thoughts or did you have some sort of an idea to fix it?

 

[K9lust]

Just venting, there is nothing that I can do about it.

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

Well, you could study up on the rules and help by making sure anything you see that violates them is reported. There is always need for good community watch members

 

[cbutton]

it's not dying at all, just going back into the shadows from hence it came. this lifestyle attracts too many trolls. also there are too many people here for too many different reasons (both good, bad, and in between) that something is bound to go wrong and send this back into the darkness. this is how life works and applies to other lifestyles as well.

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

Eh, that's a pretty generalized argument. This site is just a snapshot of the amount of zoo people in the entire world. It's been around for a long long time and will continue in my opinion. Yes, I agree with your comment about the trolls and nefarious reasoned people who join. But that was why I suggested that the people here for the RIGHT reasons try and help keep an eye on things. But, no one can predict the future so I guess time will tell

 

[pes]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I noticed that more and more site's are getting down or infectedwith cp

Of course because people running those sites simply could not care less. You see that also on the unbelievable amounts of animal abuse posted there.
The solution here would be to get completely rid of the usual crap porn sites. But that is mostly impossible. One goes down, 5 new pop up with the same crap all over again.

 

[Goattobeloved]

It has been dying for more than a decade.
Not only porn production (actually, that died commercially the day credit cards were banned), but online zoo themed sites as well. Few years ago there was plenty of zoo forums with different flavours. These days...

To me, I could go without the porn part, meaning, you may boast of your new heifer, but not keep posting porn of that.

But the times porn free (as oposed to free porn) places have been attempted, there is a very low traffic. Odd as it sounds, it seems as if only people interested in their animal companions went there. Just figure.

 

[pes]

But the times porn free (as oposed to free porn) places have been attempted, there is a very low traffic. Odd as it sounds, it seems as if only people interested in their animal companions went there. Just figure.

Zoocommunity as far as I know is the only somewhat active surviving zoo forum without porn. But to be absolutely honest it is not very interesting. At least not to me. Quite a lot of the topics there are in my opinion totally pointless discussions about nothing important. As an example "what pride flag for zoos should look like" as if we even can have a pride without half of us getting shot.
Long philosophical discussions without any foreseeable resolution about things that are either currently meaningless or do not need a solution. I guess I have outgrown these things.
But since it does not have porn, 90% of users there are zoophiles as opposed to zooville where 90% of users are fetishists.

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

Zoocommunity as far as I know is the only somewhat active surviving zoo forum without porn. But to be absolutely honest it is not very interesting. At least not to me. Quite a lot of the topics there are in my opinion totally pointless discussions about nothing important. As an example "what pride flag for zoos should look like" as if we even can have a pride without half of us getting shot.
Long philosophical discussions without any foreseeable resolution about things that are either currently meaningless or do not need a solution. I guess I have outgrown these things.
But since it does not have porn, 90% of users there are zoophiles as opposed to zooville where 90% of users are fetishists.

I can see why it would bore you. No porn means no abusers to extinguish lol. Keep up the great work Pes!

 

[WoodenPyramid]

There's a few ways you can design a community to be to a high standard, the way I'd do it is clear a community of all the things that I'm not a fan of on ZV.

Firstly, get rid of users who are the "not an owner, but I'm looking to hookup, please can somebody with a dog PM me" types. They clog up a lot of the smaller forum sections, they give the site a bad look and for security/safety reasons, those people are a danger to others on the forum/

Next, get rid of users who just act overly thirsty and disrespectful when replying to other users who post content. I see so many "loved when you fucked her cunt real hard, I'd love to shove my dick in her ass" types of comments. The types of people who clearly just treat it as a fetish with no actual care for an intimate relationship.

I think the actual porn/content could be cleaned up as well. I'd want actual quality requirements for videos, because does anyone really want to see some ultra low quality 144p video recorded on a phone in 2005? I think if you're going to limit forum interactions to increase quality, then content should have to meet a few requirements to be allowed.

Finally, gatekeeping is one of the best ways to clean things up for real. It might be hard to do for security purposes, but having a section that users are only allowed to visit if they are verified as 100% real zoos, either active or with proof they have been active. Yes this would be unfair for users who are genuine zoos but simply have no access to an animal lover, but that's just the way things go. And having a verified section would hopefully clear up things by a huge amount. Doing that, you clean up the HUGE amount of spam from fake users, and it would give verified users confidence to know if they chat to somebody else, that person is also actually real

 

[Goattobeloved]

Zoocommunity as far as I know is the only somewhat active surviving zoo forum without porn. But to be absolutely honest it is not very interesting. At least not to me. Quite a lot of the topics there are in my opinion totally pointless discussions about nothing important. As an example "what pride flag for zoos should look like" as if we even can have a pride without half of us getting shot.
Long philosophical discussions without any foreseeable resolution about things that are either currently meaningless or do not need a solution. I guess I have outgrown these things.
But since it does not have porn, 90% of users there are zoophiles as opposed to zooville where 90% of users are fetishists.

Yes, the usual thing in tematic forums. Ones most the important things are already discussed, it falls back in repetitions of 'fun and games'. Add to that a limited number if users where discussions are mostly pointless because everyone knows what the other thinks and what will be the answer.

 

[MrsShemon]

But the times porn free (as oposed to free porn) places have been attempted, there is a very low traffic. Odd as it sounds, it seems as if only people interested in their animal companions went there. Just figure.

With that, should we see this as a sex site that also have other content than porn?
Not rare at all to get an "If you don't want to share pic/vid/stories why are you here?" or "This is a sex site! Offcoarse we are here to look at porn" from members when they find out that I neither watch porn nor share naked/sexual stuff of myself.
But if a site about these "things" that don't have porn content are not well visited. Should someone like me, who is not interested in porn, just leave the online zoo world all together if "show you self/please let me watch as your dog fucks you/tell me about it, every detail tell me" becomes too much and take away the good things about being a member at a place like this?

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

I honestly just don't even bother with any porn threads. From time to time, sure. But I enjoy just chatting, learning about the community, banter, etc. Obviously, as evidenced by the women porn sections, it is a much different experience from the female perspective. So I don't know if I could even answer these questions realistically.

With that, should we see this as a sex site that also have other content than porn?
Not rare at all to get an "If you don't want to share pic/vid/stories why are you here?" or "This is a sex site! Offcoarse we are here to look at porn" from members when they find out that I neither watch porn nor share naked/sexual stuff of myself.
But if a site about these "things" that don't have porn content are not well visited. Should someone like me, who is not interested in porn, just leave the online zoo world all together if "show you self/please let me watch as your dog fucks you/tell me about it, every detail tell me" becomes too much and take away the good things about being a member at a place like this?

 

[Goattobeloved]

With that, should we see this as a sex site that also have other content than porn?
Not rare at all to get an "If you don't want to share pic/vid/stories why are you here?" or "This is a sex site! Offcoarse we are here to look at porn" from members when they find out that I neither watch porn nor share naked/sexual stuff of myself.
But if a site about these "things" that don't have porn content are not well visited. Should someone like me, who is not interested in porn, just leave the online zoo world all together if "show you self/please let me watch as your dog fucks you/tell me about it, every detail tell me" becomes too much and take away the good things about being a member at a place like this?

Well, that IS a porn site at all levels.

Good thing is we still have DF and other sections, so going to the porn is just a user election depending on the mood. Personally I only click a few that call my attention for some reason (which explains why I file few reports)

And that is not a cheap feature. I cringe to imagine the storage and bandwith costs assiciated to all the smutty porn no one cares about.

The good thing about ZV is you have no obligation to watch or share.
I personally always avoided BF because it pushed people to post their own content, and even kept rights to it in the process. I fear to learn how many dumb people got outed because they "shared to get"...

 

[pes]

Not rare at all to get an "If you don't want to share pic/vid/stories why are you here?" or "This is a sex site! Offcoarse we are here to look at porn" from members when they find out that I neither watch porn nor share naked/sexual stuff of myself.

You are a female which unfortunately immediately makes you something the fetishistic portion of the forum wants to own in their basement and milk for content any moment.

But if a site about these "things" that don't have porn content are not well visited. Should someone like me, who is not interested in porn, just leave the online zoo world all together if "show you self/please let me watch as your dog fucks you/tell me about it, every detail tell me" becomes too much and take away the good things about being a member at a place like this?

No.
The non-porn sites have a different use case. They are for people with a bit different attitude. And it depends on you whether it suits you too.
What you absolutely can do with people who annoy you is to simply ignore them and if you find amusement in it, ridicule them too.

 

[MrsShemon]

What you absolutely can do with people who annoy you is to simply ignore them and if you find amusement in it, ridicule them too.

I am rather sure that you have seen me do both of these suggestions. So I guess I just continue what I've been doing all along.

@pes @Goattobeloved @Mikedncn
Thank you for your opinions and suggestions.

 

[Ted Danson Machine]

I am rather sure that you have seen me do both of these suggestions. So I guess I just continue what I've been doing all along.

@pes @Goattobeloved @Mikedncn
Thank you for your opinions and suggestions.

Any dam time fam.

 

[gsdmixg]

Firstly, get rid of users who are the "not an owner, but I'm looking to hookup, please can somebody with a dog PM me" types.

Just took a look through my local meetup section for probably the first time and it really is just "Looking for owner, looking for owner, looking for owner" over and over again. Maybe one post that's actually "platonic only please" ? I wouldn't let my dog anywhere near these people ?

 

[Panda Chen]

I'm not sure things are dying. Things are changing but change is inevitable and constant. Posting porn is more dangerous. It is getting easier and easier to find people and big brother is getting bigger. Zoos are shunned and persecuted but we do exist and will find ways to find each other.
If you are hear mostly for the porn then maybe the loss of new content is concerning. I'm not. I have seen many forums rise and fall. People coming back together and losing touch. It is the progression of life.
We all have to be increasingly careful.
Love your friends and love your animals be they lover or friend or both and be glad you are not in a cell or beaten to death because of what form your love takes.