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HSUS World Spay Day 2-23-2021!

Spaying / Neutering/ Castrating, etc.

  • For it!

  • Against it!


Results are only viewable after voting.

ShanoirII

Citizen of Zooville
I just found out about this totally amazing holiday that all animal-lovers should celebrate.
no
World Spay Day is a """holiday""" observed on the last Tuesday of February each year. It promotes the castration and/or spaying of animals.
(I have an idea of how the polling will go, but I just want to test the waters.)
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I am personally against such practices. If the animals are breeding excessively, it should fall on their caretaker to separate them. The answer should not be to mutilate their genitalia, especially without sedatives. If someone cannot employ basic control measures because "the animal is too aggressive when intact or whatever", that animal may not be for them!
Dang, just the thought makes me hurt. I must have too much sympathy, something that the HSUS requires employees not to have.
The HSUS has yearly goals of animals to sterilize. They were given $385,000 to neuter over 9,400 animals by the DDAF in 2008. In 2014, they held 700 events in 41 countries, and neutered over 68,000 animals. They also support the catching and neutering of feral animals. Surely, if there is a population problem, there is a better way to go about it? It seems a bit like this is a mere convenience to humans - treating other animals and their bodies as property to be used in whatever way is desired, without a thought to the interests of their "companion animal". I especially dislike all the "neutering will add 3-4 years to your animal's life" snake-oil propaganda. Just like devocalization, beak-shaving, tail-docking, and claw-removal surgeries. If the parts caused that many problems, I do not think the species would have made it this far.
The idea that this is such a widely-accepted practice today, even casually viewed by most businesses as a given necessity, makes me think we will never climb out of this ditch. Or put the shovel down.
What could possibly make people think that removing key biological features (heck, maybe even the most-important feature, considering it is the reproductive organ) from a body is a good idea, or a net benefit for the victim?

I especially dislike the image above that says intact animals are less likely to be adopted, therefore more likely to be euthanized, as if that was so devastating for the HSUS. I thought you were in control of the euthanizations?

Plus, you know, the HSUS is pretty anti-zoo.

Long story short, please do not observe this day that has been ordained as holy by the ultimate lovers of all four-leggers, the Humane Society of the United States.
 
I just found out about this totally amazing holiday that all animal-lovers should celebrate.
no
World Spay Day is a """holiday""" observed on the last Tuesday of February each year. It promotes the castration and/or spaying of animals.
(I have an idea of how the polling will go, but I just want to test the waters.)
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I am personally against such practices. If the animals are breeding excessively, it should fall on their caretaker to separate them. The answer should not be to mutilate their genitalia, especially without sedatives. If someone cannot employ basic control measures because "the animal is too aggressive when intact or whatever", that animal may not be for them!
Dang, just the thought makes me hurt. I must have too much sympathy, something that the HSUS requires employees not to have.
The HSUS has yearly goals of animals to sterilize. They were given $385,000 to neuter over 9,400 animals by the DDAF in 2008. In 2014, they held 700 events in 41 countries, and neutered over 68,000 animals. They also support the catching and neutering of feral animals. Surely, if there is a population problem, there is a better way to go about it? It seems a bit like this is a mere convenience to humans - treating other animals and their bodies as property to be used in whatever way is desired, without a thought to the interests of their "companion animal". I especially dislike all the "neutering will add 3-4 years to your animal's life" snake-oil propaganda. Just like devocalization, beak-shaving, tail-docking, and claw-removal surgeries. If the parts caused that many problems, I do not think the species would have made it this far.
The idea that this is such a widely-accepted practice today, even casually viewed by most businesses as a given necessity, makes me think we will never climb out of this ditch. Or put the shovel down.
What could possibly make people think that removing key biological features (heck, maybe even the most-important feature, considering it is the reproductive organ) from a body is a good idea, or a net benefit for the victim?

I especially dislike the image above that says intact animals are less likely to be adopted, therefore more likely to be euthanized, as if that was so devastating for the HSUS. I thought you were in control of the euthanizations?

Plus, you know, the HSUS is pretty anti-zoo.

Long story short, please do not observe this day that has been ordained as holy by the ultimate lovers of all four-leggers, the Humane Society of the United States.
Voted against.

IMO spaying/neutering is acceptable when there is a risk of feral overpoluation.
 
i really hope it's not really a thing.. just something this hsuwhateveritis came up with. non-medical related spaying/neutering will always be wrong in the same way all "it's just more convenient for me" alterations are, like declawing, docking etc.
 
So how many Syrian children have we spayed over the holiday? :D I mean if you promote doing this to some species, it makes sense to apply it to other too, right?
 
world spaying/neuter is quite a scary thing to animals if they understood what it is. look at overpopulation issues also yet they say they want animals to be castrated?
I can't say I agree anything they say - hell, I didn't even bother to read the article. I simply stated my opinion.
 
So how many Syrian children have we spayed over the holiday? :D I mean if you promote doing this to some species, it makes sense to apply it to other too, right?
I mean honestly, humans are the most out-of-control population on the whole planet. If any species should have measures put in place to stop any more population growth, it should be our own. We are messing up the planet harder than any other species ever could, and most have no idea we are doing it... :( The only problem is, how is it possible to humanely control human population growth?
I hope I will live to see human supremecism put in its place.
 
I just found out about this totally amazing holiday that all animal-lovers should celebrate.
no
World Spay Day is a """holiday""" observed on the last Tuesday of February each year. It promotes the castration and/or spaying of animals.
(I have an idea of how the polling will go, but I just want to test the waters.)
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I am personally against such practices. If the animals are breeding excessively, it should fall on their caretaker to separate them. The answer should not be to mutilate their genitalia, especially without sedatives. If someone cannot employ basic control measures because "the animal is too aggressive when intact or whatever", that animal may not be for them!
Dang, just the thought makes me hurt. I must have too much sympathy, something that the HSUS requires employees not to have.
The HSUS has yearly goals of animals to sterilize. They were given $385,000 to neuter over 9,400 animals by the DDAF in 2008. In 2014, they held 700 events in 41 countries, and neutered over 68,000 animals. They also support the catching and neutering of feral animals. Surely, if there is a population problem, there is a better way to go about it? It seems a bit like this is a mere convenience to humans - treating other animals and their bodies as property to be used in whatever way is desired, without a thought to the interests of their "companion animal". I especially dislike all the "neutering will add 3-4 years to your animal's life" snake-oil propaganda. Just like devocalization, beak-shaving, tail-docking, and claw-removal surgeries. If the parts caused that many problems, I do not think the species would have made it this far.
The idea that this is such a widely-accepted practice today, even casually viewed by most businesses as a given necessity, makes me think we will never climb out of this ditch. Or put the shovel down.
What could possibly make people think that removing key biological features (heck, maybe even the most-important feature, considering it is the reproductive organ) from a body is a good idea, or a net benefit for the victim?

I especially dislike the image above that says intact animals are less likely to be adopted, therefore more likely to be euthanized, as if that was so devastating for the HSUS. I thought you were in control of the euthanizations?

Plus, you know, the HSUS is pretty anti-zoo.

Long story short, please do not observe this day that has been ordained as holy by the ultimate lovers of all four-leggers, the Humane Society of the United States.
I Dont celebrate ANY goal of HSUS....all it does is keep their nutcake President, Wayne Pacelle, in Ferarris and expensive clothing. Are you all aware that MOST of the anti-zoo legislation passed in the last ten years has been scripted by these people? That if you own a sporting dog in some States, a vet may report you for asking that vet to remove dewclaws( there is, in fact, a solid reason for this... )? Or that the amount they beg on late night tv is not enough, by their own copy, to support the national office let alone actually help the animals in that commercial? Do the math some night. Or the best of all, that Wayne Pacelle is on record as saying (and believing) that he can't WAIT for a time when dogs will become extinct; they are unnatural, because man made them?

I think its outrageous that we here support a mortal enemy so innocently.
 
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I Dont celebrate ANY goal of HSUS....all it does is keep their nutcake President, Wayne Pacelle, in Ferarris and expensive clothing. Are you all aware that MOST of the anti-zoo legislation passed in the last ten years has been scripted by these people? That if you own a sporting dog in some States, a vet may report you for asking that vet to remove dewclaws( there is, in fact, a solid reason for this... )? Or that the amount they beg on late night tv is not enough, by their own copy, to support the national office let alone actually help the animals in that commercial? Do the math some night. Or the best of all, that Wayne Pacelle is on record as saying (and believing) that he can't WAIT for a time when dogs will become extinct; they are unnatural, because man made them?

I think its outrageous that we here support a mortal enemy so innocently.
And how many people do you think would bother to investigate the background of HSUS?
 
ok unpopular view. too many people breed companion animals because of greed, or negligence. overpopulation causes a lot of animal suffering. feral animals suffer greatly from poor diet, disease, parasites. people neglect and inflict cruelty on animals that come from dubious sources. the animals like dogs and cats are bred as companion animals, arent wild so they dont have the natural control in place that wild animals have. no predators, no prey, 2 things that control species numbers in the wild. while i dont think all of them should be neutered/spayed i do think there is a strong case to control breeding to stop suffering. btw my dogs have never been spayed or neutered, but i have never allowed them to breed. unfortunately not everyone is that responsible.
 
ok unpopular view. too many people breed companion animals because of greed, or negligence. overpopulation causes a lot of animal suffering. feral animals suffer greatly from poor diet, disease, parasites. people neglect and inflict cruelty on animals that come from dubious sources. the animals like dogs and cats are bred as companion animals, arent wild so they dont have the natural control in place that wild animals have. no predators, no prey, 2 things that control species numbers in the wild. while i dont think all of them should be neutered/spayed i do think there is a strong case to control breeding to stop suffering. btw my dogs have never been spayed or neutered, but i have never allowed them to breed. unfortunately not everyone is that responsible.
This is what I was trying to get at. I'm against spaying/neutering unless there is a good reason for it (such as with feral overpopulation).
 
And how many people do you think would bother to investigate the background of HSUS?
Obviously, YOU didn't. But Ill throw it right back at you....why would they not? These nits and ithers like them are tugging at heartstrings to loosen Wallets, and ONLY to loosen wallets. Save the Doggies? They're really saying" Send us MONEY or we're gonna kill these pups, or kittens ...."
Funny....there was a National Lampoon cover, back in '73 that actually pictured that. It was a poster for awhile....

FUND-raising as a science has outstripped brains....
Save the Children.... Save the Whales....Save the Holocaust Victims....
( where THEY are, and why so much in
need, I cannot figure out), This morning its "Save the poor, toothless coconut-picking monekeys"....a PETA shuck that The BigBox Club fell for, and has caused them to remove a particular outfit's products based on zero evidence....but hey, bubba....if you dont care about your money, or being used... or it raising prices around the globe....well, hell, it fits right in with your image.
 
I voted against. That’s not to say I wouldn’t sterilize an animal if it were for health reasons. The problem is that mostly animals are fixed waaaaaaay too young! I’ve lost a pet to health complications related to a super premature sterilization and I will forever hold a grudge against the humane society for it. They ruined the life of my cat and cut my time with him in half.
 
I voted against. That’s not to say I wouldn’t sterilize an animal if it were for health reasons. The problem is that mostly animals are fixed waaaaaaay too young! I’ve lost a pet to health complications related to a super premature sterilization and I will forever hold a grudge against the humane society for it. They ruined the life of my cat and cut my time with him in half.
Some "fixing", huh? :(
 
Some "fixing", huh? :(
No joke. I think we as zoos need to form an alternative and more accurate term like hormonal tampering, maybe something catchier.
That’s what ultimately drove me to buy a puppy rather than adopt one.
 
I used to do a lot of volunteer work at a shelter and it used to piss me off how much focus they put on spay/neuter. They insisted it was the most important thing about pet ownership. If you have dogs of both genders in the house and can't or won't be bothered to keep them separate then consider spay or neuter. If you let your dog wander the neighborhood unsupervised then consider spay or neuter. But to insist that the pinnacle of pet ownership is spaying/neutering your dog that is well cared for and well confined and will never be unsupervised around the opposite sex and you are a bad person to refuse to mutilate your pet is ridiculous.

Spaying/neutering without a legitimate reason is mutilation by definition
 
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