How to increase safety when making content

[pes]

Tips on how to make content and stay safe.
(Mods feel free to edit this post and add anything you think is missing).
Useful tips from comments will be added as well.

- Is it worth it at all?

Is making porn worth the effort?

To all people who invest their time into creating quality content. If you consider the energy you have to put into setting up the camera, tripod, light, external trigger, inspection and post processing. Plus the actual photo/video shooting where you have to pay attention to not causing...

www.zoovilleforum.net

- Do not send your content to anyone you can not fully trust.
The moment someone has evidence of you doing something illegal, they can blackmail you, threaten you, ruin your life and kill your pets.

- Check the laws in your country.
Some countries allow ownership, making or viewing zoo content. This does not mean though that the place where your content will be eventually stored on a server has the same laws.

- Do not use a phone with no sd card support. Phones are inherently insecure devices.
Photos and thumbnails are saved in whole lot of places in internal storage and it is difficult to wipe them. Even with saving to a SD card thumbnails may still remain in internal storage.
Test this by running a few free deleted photo recovery apps you find in the app store.

- Use a normal camera and a dedicated sd card. Turn off any GPS/location abilities of the camera if it has some.
Once done with recording, wipe the SD card with a secure media wiping software like the erase function when formatting in linux or shred command that rewrites the whole card with random data.
Formatting alone is not enough, it does not touch the data until it is rewritten.
Test this again by running some deleted photo recovery software on the card.

- Delete metadata from the photos before uploading using some dedicated software for that.
Photos and videos and most files come with metadata. These include information on what device made that file including a whole lot of extra information like GPS location, lens ID, phone ID, software version...
Remove the metadata using some software like the linux perl exif tool (exiftool -overwrite_original -all= <filename>)
The forum does that for images, but do not rely just on that.

Uploaded Pic / Vid metadata

Hi Guys Just wondering if the metadata gets scrubbed on upload, I know most forums do this automatically these days I have search but cannot really find an exact answer

www.zoovilleforum.net

- If the camera has dead sensor pixels, that is identifiable.
Use the remapping tools in the camera to fix the issue.

- Blur out fingerprints.
Especially on close up photos, your fingers may be sharp enough that your fingerprints are visible.

- Avoid anything identifiable in the background.
Pay attention to what is in the photo or video. Avoid including identifiable items, texts, photos, art, statues, cars, including identifiable items belonging to for example a hotel...

Motel 6 is pet friendly, but please remember to be smart. remove the blanket from the bed. Any little marker helps narrow down where you are. Motel 6 blanket is one of the most noticeable things about their rooms. Instant giveaway

- Avoid identifiable features you have on your body and your animal.
Face, tattoos, birth marks, rings, bracelets, specific marking on the animal, collars, pendants...

- Turn up the exposure on dark photos before you upload to see what is hiding in the shadows.
Often a photo seems dark and black, but turning up the exposure in post processing shows some data.

- Do not keep copies of your porn locally unless you really want to.
If you have to keep it, use strong encryption like VeraCrypt with long passwords.

- Use a dedicated computer/operating system to manipulate the files and upload them.
Computers just like phones keep copies of files and thumbnails in many places and may be difficult to clean. This is especially problematic with SSD drives which are not effectively wiped even by being rewritten.

Delete command doesn’t remove data !

Reminder - a ‘delete’ command or a ‘quick format’ doesn’t remove any data! It just make it ready to be used again. Like wiping the directory in a book, but the text is untouched. If not totally rewritten or fully formatted, then a simple un-delete program can find the files again.

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Use a RAM only operating system like Tails linux that does not store any information permanently on any disk unless specifically configured to do so.

 

[JazzyPaws]

On the SSD note:

SSDs can be wiped, securely, like a hard. Using a tool such as DBAN to run several passes of 0's or random bits of 1/0 over each single bit will render the data virtually unrecoverable. In the case of an SSD, however, this causes a major chunk of life to be lost, and can fry some of the gates.

 

[JazzyPaws]

microwave it.

I mean.... That certainly works ?

 

[pes]

microwave it.

That is not exactly repeatable though. I would like to keep my 1TB ssd functional in case I need to delete some files.

 

[RandomEquine]

Not worth it unless you live someplace where it’s legal. There have been a number of instances where law enforcement has successfully identified people from their penis alone. With the way AI and other technology has advanced that just gives law enforcement more tools to fuck you with. I wouldn’t risk making such material in this day and age myself.

 

[gsdmixg]

If the cops/feds are at your door then you're not gonna quickly delete certain files.

You're gonna nuke it.

I don't think I'd have enough time to even open my PC case and rip the SSD out of the mobo before they kicked the door in. Perhaps I need a smaller case so I can toss the whole damn thing in the microwave.

 

[UR20Z]

I mean.... That certainly works ?

MAYBE. I wouldn't bet on it without doing some VERY careful testing. It's a common belief/misconception.

Materials that don't include water *GENERALLY* don't give much of a shit about microwaves, which are tuned to cause water molecules to vibrate, generating the heat. There are other materials besides water that microwaves will heat up, but it's a crapshoot as to what those materials are without testing, and if there aren't any in the die on the card, the best you can hope for is the plastic wrapped around the die melts. With the right hardware (which forensics folks either have, or have access to, and use regularly) the die *CAN* be read, even if the plastic casing around it has been reduced to a puddle of slag.

To be CERTAIN, the die itself must be PHYSICALLY destroyed - as in dig it out of the card and break it into multiple pieces.

 

[JazzyPaws]

MAYBE. I wouldn't bet on it without doing some VERY careful testing. It's a common belief/misconception.

Materials that don't include water *GENERALLY* don't give much of a shit about microwaves, which are tuned to cause water molecules to vibrate, generating the heat. There are other materials besides water that microwaves will heat up, but it's a crapshoot as to what those materials are without testing, and if there aren't any in the die on the card, the best you can hope for is the plastic wrapped around the die melts. With the right hardware (which forensics folks either have, or have access to, and use regularly) the die *CAN* be read, even if the plastic casing around it has been reduced to a puddle of slag.

To be CERTAIN, the die itself must be PHYSICALLY destroyed - as in dig it out of the card and break it into multiple pieces.

Well a fork in a microwave sure puts on a light show. I'm sure the electrically conductive components wouldn't be able to tolerate that.

The dies would certainly fry, as the tiny electrical contacts on it begin to overload and arc..

For the nuke, all it needs to be is electrically conductive. Water is an AMAZING conductor, and the way it's spread thru food makes it a very even conductor, more akin to a 3d mesh, vs a fork, which is exactly why the system works so well.

 

[JazzyPaws]

I don't think I'd have enough time to even open my PC case and rip the SSD out of the mobo before they kicked the door in. Perhaps I need a smaller case so I can toss the whole damn thing in the microwave.

If you have a drive bay, use a swap tray to mount your main drive, then it's just a click and pull.

 

[gsdmixg]

If you have a drive bay, use a swap tray to mount your main drive, then it's just a click and pull.

I use an M.2 which is affixed directly to the motherboard so unfortunately quick removal isn't an option.

 

[K_9River_rat]

I just don't make any content even for myself.

 

[BaileyAffair]

I've been recording stuff lately and taking pictures, good advice thanks!

 

[JazzyPaws]

I use an M.2 which is affixed directly to the motherboard so unfortunately quick removal isn't an option.

Not an option you say. May I present, if you have the space of course

IcyDock hotswap NVME card

 

[UR20Z]

Well a fork in a microwave sure puts on a light show. I'm sure the electrically conductive components wouldn't be able to tolerate that.

The dies would certainly fry, as the tiny electrical contacts on it begin to overload and arc..

For the nuke, all it needs to be is electrically conductive. Water is an AMAZING conductor, and the way it's spread thru food makes it a very even conductor, more akin to a 3d mesh, vs a fork, which is exactly why the system works so well.

Only "dirty" water... Pure water is a nearly perfect electrical insulator. Enough so that some of the folks who build high-power Tesla coils use distilled water as quench in the rotary switches they use to charge the caps in the big boys. But they have to change it out each run. Problem is, there's a reason water is also called "the universal solvent" - Damn near EVERYTHING dissolves in it, given some time, and once it isn't "pure water" anymore, it starts conducting like John Williams in front of the Boston Pops!

 

[K_9River_rat]

Only "dirty" water... Pure water is a nearly perfect electrical insulator. Enough so that some of the folks who build high-power Tesla coils use distilled water as quench in the rotary switches they use to charge the caps in the big boys. But they have to change it out each run. Problem is, there's a reason water is also called "the universal solvent" - Damn near EVERYTHING dissolves in it, given some time, and once it isn't "pure water" anymore, it starts conducting like John Williams in front of the Boston Pops!

We also used DI water to cool high power IGBTs in VFDs running in the kV and kA range. Ran the water directly through the conducting components.

 

[gsdmixg]

Not an option you say. May I present, if you have the space of course

IcyDock hotswap NVME card

Well that's certainly an interesting product, though it costs much more than buying a 2.5" drive If I ever suspect the feds are getting onto me I'll give it a go

 

[JazzyPaws]

Well that's certainly an interesting product, though it costs much more than buying a 2.5" drive If I ever suspect the feds are getting onto me I'll give it a go

Yea the price point isn't ideal, but it was more to illustrate a category. I'm certain there are others, I just didn't look very hard lol.

 

[dogluver101]

I mean.... That certainly works ?

Guys, guys, just rip open the casing and jam something sharp against one of the chips... Pretty sure the biggest one is the drive itself. Or take a power drill through it.
On another note, there are some tools that you can look up and use to see if you can recover deleted files. One I found from a youtube channel called The PC Security channel. After I had to redo my laptop, I thought I use it to see if it can find anything. It sees Unallocated space, and shows all the files but not a lot of detail to show anything. Most this software gave was some images that may be came from the browser and other icons. But personally didn't see much it gave me.
A few screenshots as an example. This is on a SSD. There's another software that's from Hiren's Boot CD, which I can't recall that also scans for deleted files.

Figured I post something on this. This software can also read pretty much anything. Tried to open one file that I thought was a Veracrypt drive, but turns out was a mysql file, and it didn't have an sql extension.

 

[SxaBeast]

We also used DI water to cool high power IGBTs in VFDs running in the kV and kA range. Ran the water directly through the conducting components.

Teledyne uses it to cool 5kv microwave magnetrons in their atomic emission spectrometers. You have to flush the cooling system and replace it when the resistance falls below a few megohms.

 

[pes]

Guys, guys, just rip open the casing and jam something sharp against one of the chips... Pretty sure the biggest one is the drive itself. Or take a power drill through it.
On another note, there are some tools that you can look up and use to see if you can recover deleted files. One I found from a youtube channel called The PC Security channel. After I had to redo my laptop, I thought I use it to see if it can find anything. It sees Unallocated space, and shows all the files but not a lot of detail to show anything. Most this software gave was some images that may be came from the browser and other icons. But personally didn't see much it gave me.
A few screenshots as an example. This is on a SSD. There's another software that's from Hiren's Boot CD, which I can't recall that also scans for deleted files.

Figured I post something on this. This software can also read pretty much anything. Tried to open one file that I thought was a Veracrypt drive, but turns out was a mysql file, and it didn't have an sql extension.

Linux has a tool called "photorec", I used it several times against various drives including solid state flash to recover deleted images and videos. It was very successful.
I tried it also on a wiped drive and it found nothing. But that does not mean there is nothing. There are more specialized recovery tools that can find something.

https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/fast11/tech/full_papers/Wei.pdf

 

[cbrnth]

Thanks for the tips! I think amongst all the excitement and anticipation of trying zoo sex and wanting to record the experience, it's easy to forget how important it is to stay safe and vigilant.

 

[JazzyPaws]

I would just fill the drive with random files (like games) to the full capacity and then delete said files. then when the fed's check all they will find is some weird minecraft maps and furry porn

Thats what the MAX DBAN does. It does the double bit flip 1 > 0 > 1 > 0, but each pass is done in random sequence, like generating a disk full of nothing but noise.

Then it wipes it

 

[JazzyPaws]

Not as fun as my method though

Flood it with weird but legal random pornography... JUST FUCKING FLOOD IT, granny on granny, farmers doing their 18 year old farmhands. The works.. Go really weird, down the rabbit hole, dark bdsm, stay legal tho..

Then format it with disk utility a couple times

When they FIND THAT DRIVE... the look on their faces when they see the fragments of farmer shits on bad works mixed with 80yo grannies doing hot studs....

PPPPRRRRRRIIIICCEEEELLEEEESSSSSS

 

[JazzyPaws]

Don't forget the scat porn and some weird 80's sci-fi porno

I did say farmers shitting on workers LMFAO.

Oh yeah, the weird alien probing shit from the wait late 80's i think maybe early 90s im hjaving trouble finding it, but it was fucked up

 

[D3adman88]

Tips on how to make content and stay safe.
(Mods feel free to edit this post and add anything you think is missing).
Useful tips from comments will be added as well.

- Is it worth it at all?

Is making porn worth the effort?

To all people who invest their time into creating quality content. If you consider the energy you have to put into setting up the camera, tripod, light, external trigger, inspection and post processing. Plus the actual photo/video shooting where you have to pay attention to not causing...

www.zoovilleforum.net

- Do not send your content to anyone you can not fully trust.
The moment someone has evidence of you doing something illegal, they can blackmail you, threaten you, ruin your life and kill your pets.

- Check the laws in your country.
Some countries allow ownership, making or viewing zoo content. This does not mean though that the place where your content will be eventually stored on a server has the same laws.

- Do not use a phone with no sd card support. Phones are inherently insecure devices.
Photos and thumbnails are saved in whole lot of places in internal storage and it is difficult to wipe them. Even with saving to a SD card thumbnails may still remain in internal storage.
Test this by running a few free deleted photo recovery apps you find in the app store.

- Use a normal camera and a dedicated sd card. Turn off any GPS/location abilities of the camera if it has some.
Once done with recording, wipe the SD card with a secure media wiping software like the erase function when formatting in linux or shred command that rewrites the whole card with random data.
Formatting alone is not enough, it does not touch the data until it is rewritten.
Test this again by running some deleted photo recovery software on the card.

- Delete metadata from the photos before uploading using some dedicated software for that.
Photos and videos and most files come with metadata. These include information on what device made that file including a whole lot of extra information like GPS location, lens ID, phone ID, software version...
Remove the metadata using some software like the linux perl exif tool (exiftool -overwrite_original -all= <filename>)
The forum does that for images, but do not rely just on that.

Uploaded Pic / Vid metadata

Hi Guys Just wondering if the metadata gets scrubbed on upload, I know most forums do this automatically these days I have search but cannot really find an exact answer

www.zoovilleforum.net

- If the camera has dead sensor pixels, that is identifiable.
Use the remapping tools in the camera to fix the issue.

- Blur out fingerprints.
Especially on close up photos, your fingers may be sharp enough that your fingerprints are visible.

- Avoid anything identifiable in the background.
Pay attention to what is in the photo or video. Avoid including identifiable items, texts, photos, art, statues, cars...

- Avoid identifiable features you have on your body and your animal.
Face, tattoos, birth marks, rings, bracelets, specific marking on the animal, collars, pendants...

- Turn up the exposure on dark photos before you upload to see what is hiding in the shadows.
Often a photo seems dark and black, but turning up the exposure in post processing shows some data.

- Do not keep copies of your porn locally unless you really want to.
If you have to keep it, use strong encryption like VeraCrypt with long passwords.

- Use a dedicated computer/operating system to manipulate the files and upload them.
Computers just like phones keep copies of files and thumbnails in many places and may be difficult to clean. This is especially problematic with SSD drives which are not effectively wiped even by being rewritten.

Delete command doesn’t remove data !

Reminder - a ‘delete’ command or a ‘quick format’ doesn’t remove any data! It just make it ready to be used again. Like wiping the directory in a book, but the text is untouched. If not totally rewritten or fully formatted, then a simple un-delete program can find the files again.

www.zoovilleforum.net

Use a RAM only operating system like Tails linux that does not store any information permanently on any disk unless specifically configured to do so.

@DeadmansSi3n

 

[ApogeeSolstice]

I would absolutely be interested in making content, but it can be really scary. Thank you for the tips!

 

[bryr]

Pretty straight forward. I love being eaten out by dogs and watching others. I want to post videos of my dogs making me cum but obviously don't want to get caught. Any advice?

 

[pes]

Pretty straight forward. I love being eaten out by dogs and watching others. I want to post videos of my dogs making me cum but obviously don't want to get caught. Any advice?

See 1st post.

 

[Lovetowatch]

Pretty straight forward. I love being eaten out by dogs and watching others. I want to post videos of my dogs making me cum but obviously don't want to get caught. Any advice?

Wear a mask of better yet don’t show your face and remove dog tags if you have on your pup.

Also do close up videos to hide so just your kitty and puppy will be shown in vids.

 

[bryr]

Wear a mask of better yet don’t show your face and remove dog tags if you have on your pup.

Also do close up videos to hide so just your kitty and puppy will be shown in vids.

Thank you!! I'll be looking at masks later today for sure ?