How to get a dog from a breeder witbout having to spay/neuter?

[Anonymous42069]

I'm looking to get an English labrador from a breeder, but pretty much all the breeders I've found only come with limited registration and say they need to be spayed/neutered.

Can I just ignore that after I get the dog or could they take the dog back or fine me for not doing so?

 

[IHeartDogs]

Every breader is different so ask or read the "buying" contract some places force you to get pup fixed but more often I see them take a "deposit" for fixing.

So for example ill make up some numbers say you pay 2k for a pup they then add a 1k deposit that you get back after proof of "fixing" so you pay 3k for your pup

So if you decide to not fix then that will just cost you the deposit, just talk with them I usually go with the line that I don't believe in fixing (and I don't) and that I've done my research into the risks and I know what to keep an eye out for as to sickness (and I do, hours and hours online researching pros and cons and signs of pyometra,)

 

[PonyLove]

Correct. An un-spayed female dog has a propensity to develop pyometra as it gets old due to hormonal changes. Usually breeders only breed dogs up to say 5 or 6 years of age then spay them. I had a Newf dog pass at 6 years old from pyometra, and others that lived to 13 that were spayed. I often wondered if intercourse with them outside of heat contributes to it, but does not seem so.


What is a pyometra?

Pyometra is defined as an infection in the uterus. The uterus is also known as the womb and is where the developing foetus is located. It is a serious and life threatening condition that must be treated promptly and aggressively. Pyometra is often the result of hormonal changes in the reproductive tract.

 

[PonyLove]

Instead of looking for a pure breed pup, maybe search for someone looking to place an older one to a good home. There are a lot of pure breed rescue services, so you might google that.

Probably most breeders would not try to get their dog back as it would cost them too much in time and money. They just want to control the purity of the breed, so if your off-spring can not be registered, your no threat. I never did like it when pure preeds were mixed like Lab-Newf etc.

 

[Alpha Cat]

I don't know who you people are dealing with but I was under the impression that any dog with AKC papers usually sold as unfixed. The moment you get them fixed then they become worthless. You are basically paying for breeding stock, so once you fix the animal then it loses all breeding value.

 

[Knottypat]

I bought my shepherd of craigslist. He is not AKC registered. But I don't have to neuter

 

[Noodle]

Every breader is different so ask or read the "buying" contract some places force you to get pup fixed but more often I see them take a "deposit" for fixing.

So for example ill make up some numbers say you pay 2k for a pup they then add a 1k deposit that you get back after proof of "fixing" so you pay 3k for your pup

So if you decide to not fix then that will just cost you the deposit, just talk with them I usually go with the line that I don't believe in fixing (and I don't) and that I've done my research into the risks and I know what to keep an eye out for as to sickness (and I do, hours and hours online researching pros and cons and signs of pyometra,)

Avoiding Mammary Tumours is one the main health benefit of neutering.

 

[PonyLove]

Yes mammary tumors too besides pyometra.

Some breeders may allow you to use your pup for eventual breeding, but they want control over who you breed to and often want a portion of the litter like best pick, or 50% of the sales. Seems to me most restrictions or controls are for female pups.

 

[dobelove88]

Talk with your breeder. Most of the ones I know don't require a dog they sell as a pet/on limited registration to be neutered until they're 18-24 months - as most research shows it's harmful to do so before that timeframe. They don't care if you opt for a tubal litigation/vasectomy, just that the dog can't reproduce - as usually the ones sold to pet homes are ones that don't quite fit all the criteria of that breed's standard or just aren't cut out for the breed ring (doesn't enjoy being shown, might have a slight defect that doesn't hurt the dog's quality of life, but disqualifies them from being shown).

Are you planning on doing anything with the dog? I.e. performance events, showing, etc. If you are, there are some events that require the dog to be intact - and if you spoke with your breeder about your interest in those venues, they may be willing to sell a dog on full registration.

 

[ILoveZooGirlsXXX]

I bought my shepherd of craigslist. He is not AKC registered. But I don't have to neuter

If you got your GSD off Craigslist I strongly suggest a DNA test for Degenerative myelopathy if nothing else. Top breeders will have had this done, but those on places like Craigslist won't. We have a GSD right now suffering the effects of this as he is now parallelized in his hind legs and incontinent. The real pity of this condition is he's still alert, loves to be with us, and still thinks he can run around like he used to . It's really sad to know there isn't a thing we can do to help him other than make him feel like he's still loved.

 

[PonyLove]

As I rememeber when I use to breed dogs........ Another thing to keep in mind that if you do purchase a dog for breeding, and its a larger breed, especially one prone to dysplasia, that obtaining an OFA (orthopedic foundation for animals) certificate/rating is usually advisable. The OFA rating is shown on the AKC registration. Xrays are done by a specialized vet and read to provide the OFA rating. The xrays are done only on dogs that are over 2 years old, and for females, they must not have been bred. Responsible breeders do not breed dogs that do not get an acceptable OFA rating. When buying a pup from a breeder, its advisable to ask if the parents have an OFA rating. An option to OFA is PennHIP with Penn referring to a technique developed at the University of Pennsylvania.

OFA results are reported as Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor or Dysplastic. PennHIP results are a reported as a percentile of the distractive index compared to all other dogs of the same breed that have been tested. ... PennHIP requires general anesthesia. The best option is to use both OFA and PennHIP screening.