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Do you Doublethink about zoophilia and beastiality?

Edger_23

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Not recently, but through the years, i found out that i am capable of doublethink when it comes to my sexuality, in private, i accept the fact that my mate loved and that everytime we made love she enjoyed herself too, that being sexually atracted to animals is not a sickness of the mind and that sex is natural between species. But then, when i get on twitter or anything of the like, and i see a post in wich someone is defending zoophilia and beastiality or furries, i get this visceram sensation of disgust, and all i think is "how can they say such a thing" but then when i think about it i cannot understand why would i have thought of that.
My mind is in total contradiction with it self, as if i was indoctrinated 1984 style.
I think it might be a defense mechanism to be able to stay hidden in a society that hates me, but still the feeling is so raw that i can't help but be amazed and utterly confused by it.

Anyways, do similar things happen to you? What do you think about it?
 
The most toxic and self destructive thing you can do, is concern yourself with the opinions of others.
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Knowledge is objective. feelings are subjective. An opinion is a claim or a statement on an idea on your or someone else's part. Emotions are irrelevant. You can't prove a lot of things to an absolute degree, especially to the variable perceptions of a person. That quote is stupid.

Omg, now I just read the top piece. How bombastic. To not even process that information is ignorance. You don't have to hold it to any regard, but you need to consider or at least process the information.
 
Might be.

Anyways, when you come out to everyone in your town as a zoo, please send me the video, might give me courage.

That is a fucking moronic move and stupid counter argument.
Basic self acceptance (What you need) vs Completely outing yourself to everyone in a 3-20 mile radius.

Hmmm, Kinda seems like one of those has a much better end result.



?? nearly choked on my coffee

Glad you survived.
 
That is a fucking moronic move and stupid counter argument.
Basic self acceptance (What you need) vs Completely outing yourself to everyone in a 3-20 mile radius.

Hmmm, Kinda seems like one of those has a much better end result.





Glad you survived.
It is as much as an argument as your initial response, i said, that in private, i have no problem accepting my self but and instinct level disgust arises in social situations.

As you replied to that saying i was a little bitch, i thought you were trying to talk me into coming out, since accepting my self in private isnt enough for you apparently.

Besides, theres nothing more moronic than replying to a serius question with passive agressive nonsense bullshit.
 
It is as much as an argument as your initial response, i said, that in private, i have no problem accepting my self but and instinct level disgust arises in social situations.

As you replied to that saying i was a little bitch, i thought you were trying to talk me into coming out, since accepting my self in private isnt enough for you apparently.

Besides, theres nothing more moronic than replying to a serius question with passive agressive nonsense bullshit.

This was a serious question? You really are new here.
 
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This was a serious question? You really are new here.
Do i have to check with "420fatty" the arbiter of seriousness before posting?
Besides, i have been here for a bit and as far as know, outside of the dumpster fire, being an asshole is not the rule.

You can reply to this, but unless is something serious, or very funny, i dont think i'll spwnd my time reading it, So don't waste yours
 
Knowledge is objective. feelings are subjective. An opinion is a claim or a statement on an idea on your or someone else's part. Emotions are irrelevant. You can't prove a lot of things to an absolute degree, especially to the variable perceptions of a person. That quote is stupid.

Omg, now I just read the top piece. How bombastic. To not even process that information is ignorance. You don't have to hold it to any regard, but you need to consider or at least process the information.
I'm not sure the frame of mind you read my post in, but you so far missed the meaning and context it was given in.
 
I don't "doublethink" concerning actual zoophilia.

But sometimes fantasies fuel my arousal that I would consider to be morally wrong, if they were acted out in real life. That's normal, isn't it? As a tame example, people fantasize about sexual adventures with strangers and yet remain faithful to their spouse. It's such situations in which the impression may arise that we have more than one part of our body doing the thinking.
 
Hm... I don't do doublethink there and I did out myself to a considerable number of people - though that was at the time I went to school, so I met mostly interest and not preconceived hatred and also am not living in a part of the world where religion is an important part of the public. I mean it's pretty silly to have been humped by a male dog or having a female rub her pussy against yourself and believe arguments like they don't enjoy sex or can't consent.
 
But then, when i get on twitter or anything of the like, and i see a post in wich someone is defending zoophilia and beastiality or furries, i get this visceram sensation of disgust, and all i think is "how can they say such a thing" but then when i think about it i cannot understand why would i have thought of that.
My mind is in total contradiction with it self, as if i was indoctrinated 1984 style.
I think it might be a defense mechanism to be able to stay hidden in a society that hates me, but still the feeling is so raw that i can't help but be amazed and utterly confused by it.
I do feel some kind of mental pressure to agree with them after reading like... 30 comments? Twitter is an extreme case and I take at least a day of a break when I notice that pressure, partially because it's often accompanied by a depressive feeling. I think it's a side effect of debunking the same arguments over and over in your head. "A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth" Antis use consent like a mantra, adding hefty amounts of disgust and hatred in the meantime. Makes you feel outnumbered and wrong after reading too much, especially after seeing any logic being thrown out of the window. Reason doesn't work on them, any methods of proving hypotheses are suddenly invalid, you start questioning your sanity and with it, any beliefs you hold. Simply do not overdose.
 
It is as much as an argument as your initial response, i said, that in private, i have no problem accepting my self but and instinct level disgust arises in social situations.

As you replied to that saying i was a little bitch, i thought you were trying to talk me into coming out, since accepting my self in private isnt enough for you apparently.

Besides, theres nothing more moronic than replying to a serius question with passive agressive nonsense bullshit.
There’s nothing passive about fatty
 
Not recently, but through the years, i found out that i am capable of doublethink when it comes to my sexuality, in private, i accept the fact that my mate loved and that everytime we made love she enjoyed herself too, that being sexually atracted to animals is not a sickness of the mind and that sex is natural between species. But then, when i get on twitter or anything of the like, and i see a post in wich someone is defending zoophilia and beastiality or furries, i get this visceram sensation of disgust, and all i think is "how can they say such a thing" but then when i think about it i cannot understand why would i have thought of that.
My mind is in total contradiction with it self, as if i was indoctrinated 1984 style.
I think it might be a defense mechanism to be able to stay hidden in a society that hates me, but still the feeling is so raw that i can't help but be amazed and utterly confused by it.

Anyways, do similar things happen to you? What do you think about it?
I have similar feelings. When I see people publicly advocating or supporting zoophilia I just cannot but feel aversion, not in a moral sense but as something that shouldn't be touted around like some civil rights movement in the 60's, as if they're in a grand struggle or as if they're going to change people's minds who mostly find them repulsive.
I'm romantically and sexually attracted to animals, but it's a secret matter and I think it should be treated as such unless there's some widespread acceptance in society.
 
Yes, admittedly.

I only just recently came to terms with myself, so there are still moments when I feel that shame and loathing. For myself and towards others. Those thoughts of “They’re taking advantage of the animal!” Or “They’re just lonely basement dwellers with nothing better to do” or “You’re insane” or “You need serious help, you’re disgusting” sometimes creep in unwelcomed.

I don’t see much wrong with the way I am, but when you hear it all around you, you can’t help but have those outside voices creep into your own mind. Best I can do is think about why I feel that way, realize I’m gonna die eventually and none of this matters, then go on about my day.
 
I am zoo, I am happy to be zoo. I never think twice about it. When I hear or read someone saying how horrible zoos are I have a little voice in my head that tells me those people ignorant, assholes who to try and force their ill conceived morals onto everyone else, even those that does not have the same beliefs as them. Then I go about my day still completely content with the zoo that I am.
 
Yes, admittedly.

I only just recently came to terms with myself, so there are still moments when I feel that shame and loathing. For myself and towards others. Those thoughts of “They’re taking advantage of the animal!” Or “They’re just lonely basement dwellers with nothing better to do” or “You’re insane” or “You need serious help, you’re disgusting” sometimes creep in unwelcomed.

I don’t see much wrong with the way I am, but when you hear it all around you, you can’t help but have those outside voices creep into your own mind. Best I can do is think about why I feel that way, realize I’m gonna die eventually and none of this matters, then go on about my day.
Ugh, yeah, I relate. A part of me feels that I cannot take the best possible care of my cat and have a deeper relationship with her at the same time. I often feel that my being a zoophile automatically translates to this:
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I know that both of those notions are logically unsound, but yeah, I still have a good deal of assimilating to do.
 
Yes, admittedly.

I only just recently came to terms with myself, so there are still moments when I feel that shame and loathing. For myself and towards others. Those thoughts of “They’re taking advantage of the animal!” Or “They’re just lonely basement dwellers with nothing better to do” or “You’re insane” or “You need serious help, you’re disgusting” sometimes creep in unwelcomed.

I don’t see much wrong with the way I am, but when you hear it all around you, you can’t help but have those outside voices creep into your own mind. Best I can do is think about why I feel that way, realize I’m gonna die eventually and none of this matters, then go on about my day.
Even with the nonsensical arguments, it's hard to keep up isn't it?
 
Ugh, yeah, I relate. A part of me feels that I cannot take the best possible care of my cat and have a deeper relationship with her at the same time. I often feel that my being a zoophile automatically translates to this:
basement_5691.png

I know that both of those notions are logically unsound, but yeah, I still have a good deal of assimilating to do.
When i first got into it i was young and i really know what you mean
 
Nope. Just don’t dive in the deep end of your mind otherwise you risk not coming back.
An easy aproach, but i keep coming back to carl jung and the shadow, the mind should be your kingdom, you shouldn't be subordinated to it, acording to some at least

I will try
 
An easy aproach, but i keep coming back to carl jung and the shadow, the mind should be your kingdom, you shouldn't be subordinated to it, acording to some at least
Indeed! Be the observer, not the participant. Just let the thoughts flow by without hitching a ride on them ~_^
 
i still think its weird sometimes


I add up to this post, to be honest, i find bestiality or just having sex with an animal hot, but i don't think it's something "normal". It's actually that not everyone will accept or to think equally as one, but then i think that thinking about people as a mass sometimes makes you feel less and less... unique, and everyone has his/her own way to enjoy stuff they like (this is the case).

So, from time to time i end up here, thinking "oh my god i still like this" but at the same time i say "so what?" it's not like i hate people defeinding zoo rights and such, i think it's more about defending self's rights, but you can't force anyone to think the way you do, as long as anyone is getting hurt i think this sexuality/pseudosexuality/preference is okay, i mean, animals like sex too
 
I add up to this post, to be honest, i find bestiality or just having sex with an animal hot, but i don't think it's something "normal". It's actually that not everyone will accept or to think equally as one, but then i think that thinking about people as a mass sometimes makes you feel less and less... unique, and everyone has his/her own way to enjoy stuff they like (this is the case).

So, from time to time i end up here, thinking "oh my god i still like this" but at the same time i say "so what?" it's not like i hate people defeinding zoo rights and such, i think it's more about defending self's rights, but you can't force anyone to think the way you do, as long as anyone is getting hurt i think this sexuality/pseudosexuality/preference is okay, i mean, animals like sex too
Interesting view. also im curious, have you ever had sex with non humans?
 
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