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Do you bully yourself?

Mesond

Mesond

Citizen of Zooville
BANNED USER
Have you ever heard the phrase "Why are you hitting yourself?" It's a good question.

Involve yourself or don't.

Imagine being that loner at the side at dance parties or something. But they're only stopping themselves aren't they?

Trust me, I get it. I was once that person too. But it's your own fear and paranoia if you only assume others are discluding you. The truth is you do it to yourself.

Your assumptions? Yours.
Your thoughts? Yours.
Your fear? Yours.
Your closed mind? Yours.

No one does it to you. You're your own victim.
 
thequiet111 said:
you have? good. do you understand what i'm referring to?
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Is it an implciation made at me because you're assuming I'm smater then I think I am?
If not then you might be testing me to see if I'm assuming and make snap judgements. Ahhh, but you could being doing that, right?
I consider both possabilities.

Everyone will assume of course. But who's going "I disagree because of reason here?" Most people fail to say why. At which point how are people supposed to understand?

You didn't answer my question btw. Trying to disprove each other works better then "I'm in the right".
 
Mesond said:
Is it an implciation made at me because you're assuming I'm smater then I think I am?
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no, that's not correct, but well done for having a go. that's not how you spell either implication or smarter btw

I was insinuating that you're overestimating your understanding of, and thus oversimplify, a complex issue. "No one does it to you. You're your own victim." is the sort of statement someone makes when they lack the basic understanding of what makes people feel like a victim, it's a grossly distorted and simplistic view from the likes of ultra idiots such as Andrew Tate, and if that's really how you think, you can do better.
 
Typoitis is creeping up on me it seems. Hahahaha. Knowing things doesn't translate to not making mistakes.

I understand better the you assume. You do it with your own assumptions. Fact. Either try to prove me wrong or don't. Just because something is "cliche" doesn't mean it's not true. Keep in mind it applies more in the "metaphorical" sense then the "physical".

You know that pessamistic bullshit you tell yourself when you fear your own weakness and inability? It's exactly that. Bullshit.

You see that bully hitting you? You can do something to them to phase them. Without touching them. Without saying a single word. Care to guess how to get under their skin in such a manner?
 
Holy victimblaming batman.

The kid that got bullied at school and thus stands in the corner at the dance should just get over himself, amirite?!
Mesond, you are massively oversimplifying a situation that's never simple.

On top of that, you're butchering the English language as well. Consider enabling a spelling-checker... "pessamistic"? "pessimistic".
 
Bloit said:
Holy victimblaming batman.

The kid that got bullied at school and thus stands in the corner at the dance should just get over himself, amirite?!
Mesond, you are massively oversimplifying a situation that's never simple.

On top of that, you're butchering the English language as well. Consider enabling a spelling-checker... "pessamistic"? "pessimistic".
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You're assuming. You're just proving my point. At what point did I ever say things are simple?

Those strength/weakness and fear talks are important. I'm not ignoring feelings or anything like that. But you're losing sight of the basics here. Start with the basics. The rest is more subjective. Let's start with the basics.

"Fear itself".
It comes from yourself. You. And you alone.

You can't just wave a magic wand and make it vanish of course. That's not realistic. But you can do more then you might assume.

"I can't. I'm incapabale. It's hopeless." etc. What if all of that is a big fat lie? Lies you tell yourself over and over.

Let's go back to my previous example of how to deal with a bully with insecure anger issues. The answer is to just stare at them. That's it. It's doesn't have to be complicated. Will only work if it's just you and them though. Why do you think it has to be complciated when it can be so bloody simple?

It's easy if you know it. If you don't then you're still learning.
 
Bloit said:
Says you.
Psychology doesn’t work that way.

Confidence isn’t something you can just “turn on”.
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It is when you learn how too.

Again, I never said things were simple. YOU people did.

Can't you people jsut admit YOU are the ones assuming and being close minded?

That's why you bully yourself. Let alone others. I'm going to repeat a question that you people failed to answer. If you had answered my questions you wouldn't be assuming so much sutpid shit.

"I can't. I'm incapabale. It's hopeless." etc. What if all of that is a big fat lie? Lies you tell yourself over and over.

If you prove my point then you prove my point.
 
Yeah, it's true some people might be doing it to themselves.

But when you've actually been abused throughout your childhood by not only your peers, but by family members as well...

Makes me a little bit more than upset that you're insinuating it's all my fault/I did it to myself.
 
DuskLuck said:
Yeah, it's true some people might be doing it to themselves.

But when you've actually been abused throughout your childhood by not only your peers, but by family members as well...

Makes me a little bit more than upset that you're insinuating it's all my fault/I did it to myself.
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We're all triggers that affect others.

Accountability is what defuses.

It's not "all" your fault. But when it is, it is. You can only be upset if it affects you somehow. You'd know better then I do when it comes to your own reasons. I know patterns. But I'm not a mind reader. Here's my theory though. You try to figure out what is your fault. Yet it gets difficult when people blame you. Sound about right?

Do you have any idea how quickly people with anxiety can learn courage in the blink of an eye? But you got to play it smart. It doesn't happen with "kiss their ass". I can tell you that much. If someone is wallowing and going "can't" then do you think I'm going to reward a closed mind?

Let's cover a situation where someone learns courage. They'd actually be one of those "can't" people.

Degrading someone for being a coward can get them to get right up in your face. Which shows courage. And is not to be treated as a "personal attack". This is a more playful situation. If you punish courage, if you punish "speaking up" then that would only teach people to be cowards again. Are you starting to get the idea?

Let people be angry more basically. Ohhh, but it's a "personal attack", right? Let's say it is. Does it change the fact that you might have done something youself? If a situation doesn't go the way you like then maybe you made a mistake somehow.

Sometimes it's not that playful. Sometimes it takes someone dyng before people learn. The way I had to learn. It is what it is. Or was in this case. What I didn't know then I didn't know.

At first I made the mistake of beating myself up. "Can't. Can't. Can't." I used to see myself that way once. Wallowing. Beating myself up. What is the POINT in that?

CAN!

Got back out there. Got my shit together. Got myself out of that rut. I will not be dragged down into that dark pit of despair again. So why would people do it to themselves then? Probably because it's all they know. But that's just it. It doesn't mean there all there is. You just might not see it.

To go "can't" is to blind yourself. To give up. To not consider the possability. If you limit yourself from fear then you will never reach your full potential.
 
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Remember, you can always do more then you think you can. You just might not see it yet.
 
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Mesond, this sort of Tic Tok philosophy is utterly worthless and with every garbled sentence and empty word you (mis)type you only expose your own ignorance, and your arrogance is stopping you from seeing how naive you sound. you present yourself, argue and spell like a poorly educated child and if you carry on you'll end up being treated as such by those you want to engage with, but for every person who stops responding and adds you to their personal ignore pile, your hubris will only grow and the more you rant the more you'll be ignored and round and round you'll go. it's up to you if you want to understand why that happens and if you want to do anything about it.

at the moment you're like that Simpons meme, "is it me who's wrong? no, it's everyone else"
 
Bloit said:
Why the fuck are you PM-ing me with this bullshit?
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he's not well, i took a quick look at his other postings and nothing he says makes sense, it's all the same ranting nonsense. i thought he was just another idiot but it's pretty clear he has some mental health / self esteem issues
 
thequiet111 said:
he's not well, i took a quick look at his other postings and nothing he says makes sense, it's all the same ranting nonsense. i thought he was just another idiot but it's pretty clear he has some mental health / self esteem issues
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I'm fine actually. You assume incorrectly.

Your assumptions are yours. You also didn't answer my privious questions. It's almost as if refusing to answer questions leads to misunderstandings.
 
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thequiet111 said:
Mesond, this sort of Tic Tok philosophy is utterly worthless and with every garbled sentence and empty word you (mis)type you only expose your own ignorance, and your arrogance is stopping you from seeing how naive you sound. you present yourself, argue and spell like a poorly educated child and if you carry on you'll end up being treated as such by those you want to engage with, but for every person who stops responding and adds you to their personal ignore pile, your hubris will only grow and the more you rant the more you'll be ignored and round and round you'll go. it's up to you if you want to understand why that happens and if you want to do anything about it.

at the moment you're like that Simpons meme, "is it me who's wrong? no, it's everyone else"
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Said the hypocrite.

Do you even realize you're doing it yourself?
 
Mesond said:
To try and have a conversation in messages without interjections.

Why aren't you agreeing with me or otherwise trying to prove me wrong?
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Burden of proof is yours, as you're making the outrageous claims!

Link us to one medical study that backs up your theories.
Just one

You can't.
 
Bloit said:
Burden of proof is yours, as you're making the outrageous claims!

Link us to one medical study that backs up your theories.
Just one

You can't.
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What medical study? If you're going to make outrages claims then back it up.

All you do is prove my point.

Here's a simple statement. And people that agree with me don't work themselves up. It is as follows.

"You can only work yourself up with your own assumptions".

Prove me wrong or don't. I warned you people that trying to disprove me will work better the "I'm in the right". So try to do exactly that. Or admit that you can't.
 
Bloit said:
Burden of proof is yours, as you're making the outrageous claims!

Link us to one medical study that backs up your theories.
Just one

You can't.
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i'm not going to bother with him anymore, he's shown how incapable he is of ration discourse so there's no point, it's like arguing with a crazy hobo, what they hear in their heads has no connection with what's being said, it's futile
 
Mesond said:
What medical study? If you're going to make outrages claims then back it up.
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Did you really just "No U" me on this?
Fucking hell what planet are you from?!

Mesond said:
All you do is prove my point.
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I am proving your point that you can "Just be social" or "Just stop being scared"?
Are you even reading what I'm writing? Are you even on the same fucking forum?!

Mesond said:
"You can only work yourself up with your own assumptions".

Prove me wrong or don't. I warned you people that trying to disprove me will work better the "I'm in the right". So try to do exactly that. Or admit that you can't.
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Fucktard, mental blocks like that aren't about "assumptions".
As stated a bazillion times before, this victim-blaming bullshit of yours isn't some kind of switch you can just "turn off".

What prove do you need?

Kids being bullied until they commit suicide?!
People so scared to leave their house they starve?!
People with the most irrational phobias preventing them from being a functioning part of society?!

But noooooo, you say they can just "choose" not to be afraid any more.

And you have the AUDACITY, after that VICTIM-BLAMING BULLSHIT to demand WE provide evidence YOU ARE WRONG?!

Get the fuck out.

Fucking hell, hardly ever has someone online made me THIS mad.
 
DuskLuck said:
Yeah, it's true some people might be doing it to themselves.

But when you've actually been abused throughout your childhood by not only your peers, but by family members as well...

Makes me a little bit more than upset that you're insinuating it's all my fault/I did it to myself.
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WORD! Im right there with you, bud!!
 
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