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Do not trust anyone - do not share your story

sarahsingletono98

sarahsingletono98

Esteemed Citizen of ZV
As comfortable as you may get with someone here, do not let your instinct to be safe be clouded by what seems to be mutual friendship.

the second you do not fill someones void of gratification, they can turn on you. Anything you have said can be shared, swapped and traded in an attempt to either get back at you, or a sad attempt to get you to reconnect with them.

i say this with experience form the past 72 hours where someone I have chatted with for over two years has shared extremely personal details about my life with an almost stranger. I ghosted them for prying far too deep into a recent event in my life that I was not willing to give explicit details, while chatting with others here. this “friend” then tracked the user(s) I was interacting with and began sharing my intimate details. Even going so far as to remarking on personal photos.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE - your life is far too important than what may feel comfortable here.
PROTECT YOURSELF - TRUST NO ONE - SHARE NOTHING
 
That's horrible ... Karma will catch up with them soon enough. You never really know someone until you see their other side so yeah, I agree. Take care out there ?
 
Yes! That person/user should be reported for our safety. I'm very sorry that someone used Your trust. Karma will back for sure.

Seb
 
Yeah, people are horrible. Always been. So sorry it happened to you.

The fact we can't trust each other hurts the community in general, because it's very difficult to find friends and someone to talk because of it.
 
Even when you trust someone online, always retain a reasonable guard to keep control of what is going on and ensure no one can be an ass pain in the future.
 
I have never understood why some people have to be total assholes and have to find identifying information or blackmail people who post new content or exchange info over private messages.

It really sucks that one person can ruin it for everyone... but that's how most stuff goes it seems ;/
 
I’m sorry this happened to you.
I hope you’re ok and that the person who did this will get what he/she deserves. ?
 
sarahsingletono98 said:
As comfortable as you may get with someone here, do not let your instinct to be safe be clouded by what seems to be mutual friendship.

the second you do not fill someones void of gratification, they can turn on you. Anything you have said can be shared, swapped and traded in an attempt to either get back at you, or a sad attempt to get you to reconnect with them.

i say this with experience form the past 72 hours where someone I have chatted with for over two years has shared extremely personal details about my life with an almost stranger. I ghosted them for prying far too deep into a recent event in my life that I was not willing to give explicit details, while chatting with others here. this “friend” then tracked the user(s) I was interacting with and began sharing my intimate details. Even going so far as to remarking on personal photos.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE - your life is far too important than what may feel comfortable here.
PROTECT YOURSELF - TRUST NO ONE - SHARE NOTHING
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this is why I give nothing much till meet irl, online is not real for the most part. I operate on the MAD principle, when you can level them just as good it gives good incentive to not play that sort of game at all.
 
That's very scary and upsetting, I'm so sorry. It is definitely a wake up call, so thank you for sharing that betrayal of your trust.
 
I'm so sorry for you.

This is an illegal website. It is suicide to share details of your intimate life here, even worse, share your photographs.
Should you never trust anyone here. That's the rule.
 
sarahsingletono98 said:
As comfortable as you may get with someone here, do not let your instinct to be safe be clouded by what seems to be mutual friendship.

the second you do not fill someones void of gratification, they can turn on you. Anything you have said can be shared, swapped and traded in an attempt to either get back at you, or a sad attempt to get you to reconnect with them.

i say this with experience form the past 72 hours where someone I have chatted with for over two years has shared extremely personal details about my life with an almost stranger. I ghosted them for prying far too deep into a recent event in my life that I was not willing to give explicit details, while chatting with others here. this “friend” then tracked the user(s) I was interacting with and began sharing my intimate details. Even going so far as to remarking on personal photos.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE - your life is far too important than what may feel comfortable here.
PROTECT YOURSELF - TRUST NO ONE - SHARE NOTHING


thats really shitty, i feel for you
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The illusion of safety is the issue. You're not safe. You are NEVER safe.

It's for this reason that I'm honest and upfront about being the danger. Anyone saying they won't hurt you is lying to you.

There are people that can be trusted. And mistrust can be a good thing too. But don't let it lead to living under a rock and fearing everyone around you. If you do that then you are living in fear. That's the least "safe" thing you can do. It only serves to give others the power over you.

World is scary. Online can be scary too. Just try to "Keep it real". A lot of idiots online don't. That's the problem. I sort that shit out more. Gets results. Understand that people will take issue at first. No way around it. If you're a real person with real thoughts and feelings though then there's the facts. If others have something to hide then how can they be trusted? It's all about getting to those straight answers. Being upfront and all. Lead by example and others will follow it.

Live as a coward though and you bring it on yourself. Trust me, even I once made that mistake. Doesn't end well. So try to communicate more when you get scared and your feelings are hurt. Try to condition yourself somehow or something. Easier said then done, I know.

Comfort can be a danger too. Noticed how the insecure ones are too comfortable? Know what else gets comfortable? Trust issues. Depression. etc.

Why would wanting to ronnect to try and communicate to address concerns be a bad thing? It sounds like you've been avoiding communication somehow. If that's the case then that's your mistake. You are the one that ghosted. You are the one that sonewall abused. People will get back at you if you don't admit your own bullshit.

Stonewall abuse would be this. Yea.... That tends to piss people off. And you're surprised they wanted to get back at you? I want to point out this is the one thing I can't afford to do. It would be ignoring concerns. That's why.

It's about accountability. That's when things defuse. If all you do is take everything as a personal attack then it's less to do with others and more to do with yourself. Treat this as an opportunity to self reflect. Consider how your own actions might have "triggered" the other person. Because if you don't do that then you are doomed to repeat the same pattern again.
 
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Mesond said:
Why would wanting to ronnect to try and communicate to address concerns be a bad thing? It sounds like you've been avoiding communication somehow. If that's the case then that's your mistake. You are the one that ghosted. You are the one that sonewall abused. People will get back at you if you don't admit your own bullshit.
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I refuse to communicate with someone who is trying to pry information out of me. If they are sharing my personal details with someone else that either of use barely know as a third party and asking that person to get more information about me. You are damn right I ghosted. No apology, no sorry, no I should have pulled back - and literal cyber stalking (every post I make, every comment I make, every thread I like) and then dming the people I interact with. Bro that is straight up scary as fuck shit.

furthermore how date you put blame on someone for not "admit their own bullshit" That is what is wrong with people in this world. You cannot blame the person effected by the person who cannot control themselves.

If this were a husband or a lover who suddenly got dropped, sure we need to take this to a counselor. But this is not the case.

Worse this is someone who already knew more intimate details of why I have distrust in people in general because of the pure evil that resides within some people and what they are capable of.

Mesond said:
It's about accountability. That's when things defuse. If all you do is take everything as a personal attack then it's less to do with others and more to do with yourself. Treat this as an opportunity to self reflect. Consider how your own actions might have "triggered" the other person. Because if you don't do that then you are doomed to repeat the same pattern again.
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FUCK YOU! Do not blanket make excuses for someone's insanity. My unwillingness to share details of my life does not justify anyone to dox my information to others. Self reflection, is people like you taking up for abusers should equally be taken down for supporting their ill behavior. The other self reflection, I will ensure my firearm is only me at all times in case this motherfucker tries to take it up another level and locate me.

Put that in your doomed to repeat bullshit.
 
This may be an unpopular argument with people on both sides of the issue. I am convinced that learning to listen to our intuition, real intuition in the spiritual sense of the word, is our best tool for weeding out all the anti-zoos posing as zoos, authorities, mentally unstable or unethical zoos and all the other fucked up types aplenty.

Careless zoos don't seem to want to accept that there's so much for zoos to be aware of to protect our nonhuman partners and ourselves from getting physically attacked by antizoos and violent religious zealots who believe we must be put to death alongside our partners, to avoid ending up getting doxed, blackmailed for life, being tracked down using your license plate after meeting irl, and worst of all end up with your nonhuman partner being kidnapped or killed, and don't forget all those who've gotten arrested resulting in a severely fucked life on top of their nonhuman partners being ripped away from them by the authorities to be euthanized, or rehomed at best.

All of these things have happened in the past to zoos including an online friend of mine who's canine mate was murdered resulting in him going deep into depression and just disappearing from the zoo space, maybe altogether. Few zoos seem to notice how often zoos just suddenly stop posting and go permanently silent without warning. People don't seem to want to learn.
 
sarahsingletono98 said:
I refuse to communicate with someone who is trying to pry information out of me. If they are sharing my personal details with someone else that either of use barely know as a third party and asking that person to get more information about me. You are damn right I ghosted. No apology, no sorry, no I should have pulled back - and literal cyber stalking (every post I make, every comment I make, every thread I like) and then dming the people I interact with. Bro that is straight up scary as fuck shit.

furthermore how date you put blame on someone for not "admit their own bullshit" That is what is wrong with people in this world. You cannot blame the person effected by the person who cannot control themselves.

If this were a husband or a lover who suddenly got dropped, sure we need to take this to a counselor. But this is not the case.

Worse this is someone who already knew more intimate details of why I have distrust in people in general because of the pure evil that resides within some people and what they are capable of.


FUCK YOU! Do not blanket make excuses for someone's insanity. My unwillingness to share details of my life does not justify anyone to dox my information to others. Self reflection, is people like you taking up for abusers should equally be taken down for supporting their ill behavior. The other self reflection, I will ensure my firearm is only me at all times in case this motherfucker tries to take it up another level and locate me.

Put that in your doomed to repeat bullshit.
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I'm sorry you've had to deal with this, I hope you can find a sense of safety, peace and solace once again in your life ?
 
Wolfspirit said:
This may be an unpopular argument with people on both sides of the issue.
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This should not be unpopular at all. I think that is spot on advice. And something we all need to remember. We get caught getting a little too comfortable and boom it crashes. The main reason I started this thread - if anything we need to be hyper aware and now it is only as good as it is until it no longer is.
 
Unfortunately, THIS is the human nature.
If you can't get through life with your skills (cause there are none), if you don't have goals or never really worked hard for them, then you have to live of other people lifes ... like a parasite.

Sorry to hear that!
Hopefully you will meet someone you can feel comfortable again, who is worth your trust!
 
Wolfspirit said:
This may be an unpopular argument with people on both sides of the issue. I am convinced that learning to listen to our intuition, real intuition in the spiritual sense of the word, is our best tool for weeding out all the anti-zoos posing as zoos, authorities, mentally unstable or unethical zoos and all the other fucked up types aplenty.

Careless zoos don't seem to want to accept that there's so much for zoos to be aware of to protect our nonhuman partners and ourselves from getting physically attacked by antizoos and violent religious zealots who believe we must be put to death alongside our partners, to avoid ending up getting doxed, blackmailed for life, being tracked down using your license plate after meeting irl, and worst of all end up with your nonhuman partner being kidnapped or killed, and don't forget all those who've gotten arrested resulting in a severely fucked life on top of their nonhuman partners being ripped away from them by the authorities to be euthanized, or rehomed at best.

All of these things have happened in the past to zoos including an online friend of mine who's canine mate was murdered resulting in him going deep into depression and just disappearing from the zoo space, maybe altogether. Few zoos seem to notice how often zoos just suddenly stop posting and go permanently silent without warning. People don't seem to want to learn.
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It cuts across all lines, bud. Don't make this about Zoos as victims....Few PEOPLE notice. Thats kind of a consequence of being an ostrich. Bury your head in the sand of oh....say.....another site, and your ass is going to get bitten. Facing it squarely, and setting an example of behavior is a better solution. HUMANS are like any other animal. They want what they want. Online sites like this one dangle an impossible Carrot in front of every muleheaded nit who finds them. They try to get what everyone else Seems to have already.

With all the talk in these threads on the subject, it CAN seem like boasting. That makes it worse in some eyes...."How come Joey has two popsicles and I dont have one?"

Some get frustrated, and do bad things.

"Intuition"? Great if you have one. I think you probably meant Instinct.
But those are something that needs development, and they do not develop without failures.

Speaking as the poster child for being Doxxed, a little more reporting on the users parts, and a lot less lollygagging off site by people supposedly here as watchdogs would go much farther toward keeping people out of trouble, than any amount of condemnation of whoever you're condemning.
Some days it seems like the old Alte Zoo has a second job as a PETA repeater.

Our world here suffers from internet exposure. That was the worst possible thing that could have happened. The lack of vision in the beginning put us here. That lack usurped its position of "Authority" even over voices opposed to "gathering" points. For this Hobby, there is not and never was 'Safety in numbers'....we never have HAD the numbers.

Kidults do what they do, because they rejected any example of right and wrong their seniors tried to teach. Latch key Kidults is exactly what they remain.

Report the bad guys, so the mods can do their jobs. And mods that DO their jobs need all the support we can give them.
 
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sarahsingletono98 said:
As comfortable as you may get with someone here, do not let your instinct to be safe be clouded by what seems to be mutual friendship.

the second you do not fill someones void of gratification, they can turn on you. Anything you have said can be shared, swapped and traded in an attempt to either get back at you, or a sad attempt to get you to reconnect with them.

i say this with experience form the past 72 hours where someone I have chatted with for over two years has shared extremely personal details about my life with an almost stranger. I ghosted them for prying far too deep into a recent event in my life that I was not willing to give explicit details, while chatting with others here. this “friend” then tracked the user(s) I was interacting with and began sharing my intimate details. Even going so far as to remarking on personal photos.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE - your life is far too important than what may feel comfortable here.
PROTECT YOURSELF - TRUST NO ONE - SHARE NOTHING
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sarahsingletono98 said:
As comfortable as you may get with someone here, do not let your instinct to be safe be clouded by what seems to be mutual friendship.

the second you do not fill someones void of gratification, they can turn on you. Anything you have said can be shared, swapped and traded in an attempt to either get back at you, or a sad attempt to get you to reconnect with them.

i say this with experience form the past 72 hours where someone I have chatted with for over two years has shared extremely personal details about my life with an almost stranger. I ghosted them for prying far too deep into a recent event in my life that I was not willing to give explicit details, while chatting with others here. this “friend” then tracked the user(s) I was interacting with and began sharing my intimate details. Even going so far as to remarking on personal photos.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE - your life is far too important than what may feel comfortable here.
PROTECT YOURSELF - TRUST NO ONE - SHARE NOTHING
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This is messed up in so many ways. I can imagine their history of relationships and the grief they have brought people. If scum were a person they would be it. I hope that karma visits them in their sleep.
 
Mesond said:
The illusion of safety is the issue. You're not safe. You are NEVER safe.

It's for this reason that I'm honest and upfront about being the danger. Anyone saying they won't hurt you is lying to you.

There are people that can be trusted. And mistrust can be a good thing too. But don't let it lead to living under a rock and fearing everyone around you. If you do that then you are living in fear. That's the least "safe" thing you can do. It only serves to give others the power over you.

World is scary. Online can be scary too. Just try to "Keep it real". A lot of idiots online don't. That's the problem. I sort that shit out more. Gets results. Understand that people will take issue at first. No way around it. If you're a real person with real thoughts and feelings though then there's the facts. If others have something to hide then how can they be trusted? It's all about getting to those straight answers. Being upfront and all. Lead by example and others will follow it.

Live as a coward though and you bring it on yourself. Trust me, even I once made that mistake. Doesn't end well. So try to communicate more when you get scared and your feelings are hurt. Try to condition yourself somehow or something. Easier said then done, I know.

Comfort can be a danger too. Noticed how the insecure ones are too comfortable? Know what else gets comfortable? Trust issues. Depression. etc.

Why would wanting to ronnect to try and communicate to address concerns be a bad thing? It sounds like you've been avoiding communication somehow. If that's the case then that's your mistake. You are the one that ghosted. You are the one that sonewall abused. People will get back at you if you don't admit your own bullshit.

Stonewall abuse would be this. Yea.... That tends to piss people off. And you're surprised they wanted to get back at you? I want to point out this is the one thing I can't afford to do. It would be ignoring concerns. That's why.

It's about accountability. That's when things defuse. If all you do is take everything as a personal attack then it's less to do with others and more to do with yourself. Treat this as an opportunity to self reflect. Consider how your own actions might have "triggered" the other person. Because if you don't do that then you are doomed to repeat the same pattern again.
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For anyone coming to this thread late, please be aware that this guy's thought process is a case-study in how to give yourself mental health problems.

You are never responsible for someone else's actions.
 
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