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Dil-dogging, could it ever be mutually appreciated?

It's not easy to think in an open-minded way about topics that are so heavily taught to be bad, similar to someone discovering they are zoo in an anti-zoo world. Got to shake off the conditioning for a bit. I'm not recommending dil-dogging and I'm seeking to learn here.

Main problems with dil-dogging that I know of:
1) It involves shaft stimulation which I've seen dogs recoil against and lose their erection. The most tried and true method for dog pleasure is pressure behind the knot and very gentle stimulation on the tip.
2) It is controlled by the human, which makes it more difficult to tell how the dog feels about it.
3) If there's a choice between penetrative sex and dil-dogging, sex provides warmth, moisture, and pressure that more closely match a female dog.
4) It's easier to be too rough with the penis if not careful.
5) There are concerns within the realm of human thought that dogs can't share, like relating dil-dogging to using sex toys or associating it with commercial porn. It's unnatural.

Food for thought on dil-dogging, relating to the points above:
1) Humans have a very wide range of sexual preferences, and I've seen variation in dogs too. I am open-minded to there being dogs that don't mind or enjoy that. A lot of zoos go beyond the tip when doing oral. Some dogs may be able to enjoy dil-dogging if their shaft is initially sensitive to touch by gently desensitizing it with lube and gentle motion and working up from there. Reminds me of people who take large sex toys. Those toys start off as a hard NO but after some working up to it becomes a mind-blowingly pleasurable experience.
2) A dog's erection staying firm, continuing to cum / pulse, chosing to stay in place without restraints, relaxed muscles, gentle panting, not turning around a lot to inspect his penis a lot, lack of growling or biting, and other body language still can be evaluated. The increased human control over dil-dogging is a negative, but it puts it in line with bitch sex in this regard and bitch sex is accepted.
3) Hand-jobs, psuedo ties, and oral are like this too and they're accepted.
4) Possibly not much more than oral. Both involve keeping a dog still with an erect penis in hand. Dil-dogging could also involve moving the penis forward and back too, but the human can move into the dog just as well making it the same.
5) The dog doesn't care about this, and the community wants to put dogs first. His perspective is what matters. Doing right by him as assessed by him is what matters.

I've never tried dil-dogging so I don't have personal experience to share. I do oral rarely and have little motivation to check boundaries with oral. Oral fiends might have more info on if, how, and when dogs may appreciate deep throating (shaft stimulation). When dogs enjoy that, dil-dogging is like deep-throating with a vagina or butt which has the benefit of no scratchy teeth. What do you think? Dil-dogging porn is not allowed here and telling anyone to dil-dog is not allowed either, so I suggest no one do that. I am not doing that here.
 
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It doesn't sound inherently disgusting but it does sound a little I suppose unnecessary?
I imagine it's done in porn because the human wants more control or is too small/sensitive to let the dog take control or feels that's the best way to put on a show for viewers who want the penis in view and girls moaning over it. Zoos have a wide sexual range and I'd guess some find it hot.
 
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Dildoggin is done in porn for two reasons:
1. It is more pleasure to the human regardless of the animal. Humans hump much longer than dogs, we are used to getting pleasure from repeated movement, dogs do not. When you see someone doing dildogging, it is done for their pleasure.
2. Most people do not know how dogs work and porn producers do not care even if they knew. In commercial porn the dog is the secondary actor and the human is the main focus. That is wrong on it's own since it is supposed to be zoo porn.

Some dogs "may" like dildogging. More likely they just tolerate it. Because when you look at a canine penis, the sensitive parts (especially on white penises) are very clear. The shaft is not one of them.
Some does not mean most, so the safer bet here is to assume your dog would appreciate stimulation on the known parts much much more.
 
As has been said by more than one, I don't think it's inherently bad. As pretty much anything else goes, it's up to the individual dog. If done right (grip behind the knot, gentle movement, keeping close attention to his body language and reactions, etc), I've seen dogs enjoy it as much as a blowjob under similar precautions. Of course I've also seen dogs who didn't enjoy it, and also dogs who don't enjoy sex at all, which means that it's not okay to do anything with them, just let them be.
 
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