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Came to a conclusion last night

V4rmint

V4rmint

Citizen of Zooville
This is just a "rah rah rah" post really
I did a lot of soul searching on shrooms last night & the weight of my humongous secret of being a zoophile was heavy on my mind. I asked myself if I'm ashamed of it & the answer was
NO
I DON'T think I'm a sick freak for having sex with other species. In fact I don't think it's wrong at all & just wish the rest of the world would see that. I don't do anything to them they don't enthusiastically agree to. Dogs make it VERY CLEAR they want to put their dicks in me, we're consenting adults, who cares! There's a minor ethical concern about different legal rights wrt agency but again... not doing anything they don't make it clear they want!
I'll take this secret to my grave but my mind is made up. I'm gonna keep getting fucked by dogs. I'm gonna keep looking for horses & pigs to fuck me too. Someday I'm gonna have my own dogs again & if they want to I'll let them fuck me as often as they want! I WILL be a dogslut! And I'll love every minute of it! I don't have too much time left to have a pussy so I'm gonna do whatever I can to get it knotted up as many times as possible!
And being consciously sure of it feels GREAT
How about y'all, how did you come to fully accept your zoophilia?
 
Well at least I did not need any shrooms for that. :D
If that is what I think it is, it does not really make you look that great in other people's eyes if you think about it right?
 
I believe @Bloodwolf has also dabbled in shroom therapy before as well. It's good that you came to the realization that consent between two adult creatures is key for a happy healthy relationship, and that there is no reason to be ashamed of yourself if both parties wish to participate.

I came to self acceptance on my own term without the use of drugs. I know I've had strong zoophilic feelings since shortly after puberty. I used to feel shameful about them and stuffed them down. I had thought that they were akin to rape fantasies. I never knew that mutual enjoyment could ever come about the act of bestiality, so I had thought I was just a sick freak. What had helped me realize that these feelings of disgust towards zoophilia were not valid, was information about it. I decided to research these feelings and wanted to see for myself if my feelings were incorrect or not. Wikipedia and especially the works of Peter Singer helped me obtain the necessary information needed to accept myself. (I would honestly check out the philosopher Peter Singer, and his writings on the topic of zoophilia and bestiality, it's honestly brilliant.)

There was two main things that helped me accept my zoosexuality at around the age of 17...

1) Information about the act itself and the morality of it.

2) Losing my religion. I used to think my zoosexuality was an affront to God himself. Losing my religion help me feel more comfortable exploring this once hidden sexual side of myself.
 
good for you. sometimes i feel kinda lucky i never had those feelings of shame or questioned myself when i read these. then comes the realization that what "we" are is not normal and will never be accepted as such. this is a thing that will go to the grave with me as well.
 
So you have come to know yourself under the gills of the grate spore? Good for you.
The best guide line I go with is (hurt none, but love them all). Just keep in mind that the actions are just one part of the motor that moves.
 
It is difficult to always accept ourselves because we grew up and I dare to speak for everyone, we grew up believing that all this is wrong but then we realize that it is part of us and it is pure love.
Obviously we never admit it in public but it's good to know that we are not alone
 
Hum it took me years to come to this conclusion about myself. Good on ya. No need to fight a pointless fight over a nothing issue. Also it is even less of an issue when one understands that other mammals have relations with partners outside their species. Some even will offer themselves to humans or be the initiators of intimate relations. One also has to remember that the experts use homosexul behavior in animals to justify it in humans. So yay for you.
 
The term "Normal" is what we see it as, not what others decide is normal. Accept your passion for Zoo and don't worry about what the self proclaimed righteous decide is right or wrong. That doesn't mean announce to the world you love Zoo, but don't feel guilt for love of animals.
Note: This message was animal approved! :gsd_happysmile:
 
V4rmint said:
How about y'all, how did you come to fully accept your zoophilia?
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I went up into the mountains on foot this July. If I’d had shrooms I would’ve DEFINITELY taken them but all I had was weed and LSD. I wasn’t up for dropping acid up there, it being my first time and all and I still haven’t done it yet (might be a good ‘last hoorah’ before I get my pup)
Anyway I settled in to look out over the peaks and valleys below me, fired up a big bowl of indica and just melted into that mountainside. Later on I picked up a notebook and pen and began putting it all out there on paper… my childhood zoophilic feelings, how I first came upon the idea of making love to a dog and how my love for my friend’s German Shepherd girl made that desire feel okay.
It was after that weekend that things started to fall into place for me after spending about a month in a severe depression.
I kept journaling about it, slowing getting past the walls of stigma and denial of my zoophilic desires, then I joined this site 2 months ago and have neither looked back nor desired sexual or romantic contact with a human ever since… no regrets ✌️❤️♠️
 
Took almost a decade of my young life, but I realized one day that the way I fantasize about having a loving relationship with a dog was healthier than most of the relationships my friends have found themselves in. Why should I punish myself for wanting to love and worship a dog in the most wholesome way possible when so many humans that identify as anti-zoo treat other humans like garbage? Why feel shame for something I want to be pure when the people who will shame me for it are the same people who don't ask other humans for consent?

Came to the conclusion that you should worry about who you're in a relationship with when the important thing is how you treat your partner (and how your partner treats you). Are there zoos who rape their partners? Unfortunately yes, and we scold them for it. Are there non-zoos who rape their partners? Also yes, and a ton of them seem to get off the hook without any proper punishment. Consensual zoos get dragged to prison for making love to their partners, non-zoos are given a get-out-of-jail-free card whenever abusing another human. Make it make sense.

Sorry if this reply is a bit intense. It basically boils down to "the world is full of garbage people doing garbage things, so just don't bring that energy into your life and your zoo relationships."
 
DoggyDildoKing said:
Took almost a decade of my young life, but I realized one day that the way I fantasize about having a loving relationship with a dog was healthier than most of the relationships my friends have found themselves in. Why should I punish myself for wanting to love and worship a dog in the most wholesome way possible when so many humans that identify as anti-zoo treat other humans like garbage? Why feel shame for something I want to be pure when the people who will shame me for it are the same people who don't ask other humans for consent?

Came to the conclusion that you should worry about who you're in a relationship with when the important thing is how you treat your partner (and how your partner treats you). Are there zoos who rape their partners? Unfortunately yes, and we scold them for it. Are there non-zoos who rape their partners? Also yes, and a ton of them seem to get off the hook without any proper punishment. Consensual zoos get dragged to prison for making love to their partners, non-zoos are given a get-out-of-jail-free card whenever abusing another human. Make it make sense.

Sorry if this reply is a bit intense. It basically boils down to "the world is full of garbage people doing garbage things, so just don't bring that energy into your life and your zoo relationships."
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Your response is loaded with raw truth.
I’ve thought the same thing, seeing so many friends and family members (and myself) suffer through bad or even just demanding relationships. Finally one day I asked myself ‘is that what you want?!’ I laughed out loud. Of course not, I want to give and receive the kind of devotion that can only be found with a partner who is incapable of lying and therefore leaves no room for doubt as to their feelings for you! That realization really brought me to peace with being a zoophile.
 
I also feel no shame in it anymore. It happened when i got my first dog and grew to love her with everything i am. I dont even really focus on the taboo of it anymore, its just another way of showing love between us. In those moments we have sex, but outside of those moments were just a normal dog/owner relationship. I do my best to make sure her life is fulfilled and happy, i care and provide for all her needs, and she for mine. I dont see it any different than a human relationship in that aspect.

Its kind of strange because i did struggle with it for the longest time, grew up in a religous context (Leviticus 18:23 always gave me a secret dirty chuckle), that kind of shit. Over the years of constant zoo porn exposure, numbness to the ideas and taboos of it, and an UNRELENTING desire to experience it completely i now know that its completely for me, i love it, i love her, and im not gonna stop.

Life is short, if you find a love, no matter what kind, make the most of it.
 
V4rmint said:
This is just a "rah rah rah" post really
I did a lot of soul searching on shrooms last nigh3 hardcore all the way!!!!!t & the weight of my humongous secret of being a zoophile was heavy on my mind. I asked myself if I'm ashamed of it & the answer was
NO
I DON'T think I'm a sick freak for having sex with other species. In fact I don't think it's wrong at all & just wish the rest of the world would see that. I don't do anything to them they don't enthusiastically agree to. Dogs make it VERY CLEAR they want to put their dicks in me, we're consenting adults, who cares! There's a minor ethical concern about different legal rights wrt agency but again... not doing anything they don't make it clear they want!
I'll take this secret to my grave but my mind is made up. I'm gonna keep getting fucked by dogs. I'm gonna keep looking for horses & pigs to fuck me too. Someday I'm gonna have my own dogs again & if they want to I'll let them fuck me as often as they want! I WILL be a dogslut! And I'll love every minute of it! I don't have too much time left to have a pussy so I'm gonna do whatever I can to get it knotted up as many times as possible!
And being consciously sure of it feels GREAT
How about y'all, how did you come to fully accept your zoophilia?
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been ever since was 13 hardcore til death!!!!
 
V4rmint said:
How about y'all, how did you come to fully accept your zoophilia?
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Accepting sex as something not absolutely disgusting was a matter of time spent on herpy.net. I'm not sure how long, maybe a year? Maybe another to fully get used to the idea. When I was 16 I started thinking more about morality of bestiality and came to the conclusion that I find nothing wrong about it. At the same time I knew the Church was against it and I was a christian. As a rational person (at least I think I am) I wanted to hear the reason behind it since I found nothing by thinking. Obviously I would not ask a priest or basically anyone. So I had to find the answer in the source, which for christianity is a bible. The answer "because the god is disgusted" was very unsatisfying and before I got it I found maaaaany things that made me seriously question credibility of that book. The most logical solution to all this was just abandoning the religion and so I did. Afterwards I had no reason to be ashamed of anything. Maybe a bit embarrassed but I overcame most of that as well. The only thing remaining is fear. And that is not going away for reasons known to all.

A lot of people seem to have thought consent would be a problem. My answer was: Good luck raping a 3m unconstrained crocodile, lol.
 
Mickflare said:
After i dropped religion everything was all good.
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Truth! Religion has a way of always making you feel dirty and guilty. It is the main reason it took me so long to be comfortable with myself. I was constantly hammered over the head with it when i was younger. Growing up a Seventh Day Adventist was no picnic. In many ways SDA is very much like a cult.
 
I consider all religions to be cults. Usually people throw a hissy fit. But its what it is. Im not saying they are all drinking the punch. Or moving to Jonestown. To the mother ship! Or what every end result you have been programmed with.
 
Yup. I'm right there with you on this. Indeed they do. They do not like being reminded that they are not truly thinking for themselves and letting themselves be led.
 
I am almost 70. Been a zoo as long as I can remember. Gay with humans...bi with animals. Only 20 years ago when I got on the net and found others like me. Strange thing....at times I was better then, as I did not have all the information ...did not read about the hate the anti zoo laws...just kept it a secret....well the internet opened up my world.....found out I was in love with my mare....told family and some friends...I am facing the last chapter in my life....I have come to the conclusion that I was born this way....as I believe we are all are. I have been sexually drawn to horses as early as I can Remember. Always felt natural to feel this way....did not understand why nobody else was. In reality...we all have been here....just like we are now...all very similar childhoods....very similar attractions. As zoos we are more similar than not....
Yet until the internet...we did not know about each other. How is it possible that a person like me can be attracted to horses...without growing up with them, only seeing them sometimes when we went riding as as kids....but as early as I can remember always drawn to them...when puberty hit...instant sexual attraction.
I have read several other stories that are exactly like mine. We have to ask how is this possible....none of us learned this...or were brainwashed into it....it was already there and was triggered. That certainly suggests DNA level to me.
My depression at times comes from why does something so natural to me seems so wrong to so many...now we have bad laws to contend with...we did not choose to be a zoo any more than another person chose to be straight with a human. It is our sexual orientation. Our sexual identity. The real problem is the double edge sword of the internet...we were all out there just like we are now.....but we did not know each other. We discovered ourselves.....we were elated....opened up a new world ... a community....I was and still am proud to be in that community....but others non zoos found out too...my god! This is a problem.....something has to be done...this problem is getting out of hand. These people have to be stopped...
Well....it was the porn industry that really took off. Suddenly we could see things that made us feel so good...can’t resist for sure...I enjoy it too...but I know it helped to get us where we are today with these bad laws. I do not have an answer...but it is certainly wrong to condemn a large section of our population for their sexual orientation. We come from all walks of life....we are really just normal people with different attractions. I wish they could see how we treat out mates...with kindness, respect and love...
 
Bayboyhorse said:
I am almost 70. Been a zoo as long as I can remember. Gay with humans...bi with animals. Only 20 years ago when I got on the net and found others like me. Strange thing....at times I was better then, as I did not have all the information ...did not read about the hate the anti zoo laws...just kept it a secret....well the internet opened up my world.....found out I was in love with my mare....told family and some friends...I am facing the last chapter in my life....I have come to the conclusion that I was born this way....as I believe we are all are. I have been sexually drawn to horses as early as I can Remember. Always felt natural to feel this way....did not understand why nobody else was. In reality...we all have been here....just like we are now...all very similar childhoods....very similar attractions. As zoos we are more similar than not....
Yet until the internet...we did not know about each other. How is it possible that a person like me can be attracted to horses...without growing up with them, only seeing them sometimes when we went riding as as kids....but as early as I can remember always drawn to them...when puberty hit...instant sexual attraction.
I have read several other stories that are exactly like mine. We have to ask how is this possible....none of us learned this...or were brainwashed into it....it was already there and was triggered. That certainly suggests DNA level to me.
My depression at times comes from why does something so natural to me seems so wrong to so many...now we have bad laws to contend with...we did not choose to be a zoo any more than another person chose to be straight with a human. It is our sexual orientation. Our sexual identity. The real problem is the double edge sword of the internet...we were all out there just like we are now.....but we did not know each other. We discovered ourselves.....we were elated....opened up a new world ... a community....I was and still am proud to be in that community....but others non zoos found out too...my god! This is a problem.....something has to be done...this problem is getting out of hand. These people have to be stopped...
Well....it was the porn industry that really took off. Suddenly we could see things that made us feel so good...can’t resist for sure...I enjoy it too...but I know it helped to get us where we are today with these bad laws. I do not have an answer...but it is certainly wrong to condemn a large section of our population for their sexual orientation. We come from all walks of life....we are really just normal people with different attractions. I wish they could see how we treat out mates...with kindness, respect and love...
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*Gives you a friendly hug!*

This is my story as well. I am 49 myself and did grow up around horses. Even before I knew what sex was and before hitting puberty i was attracted to horses and dogs. The first experience I had was with a mare and gelding that my aunts brother was keeping in a field below our house when I was six. The mare let me examine her bits on a very personal level and was more than accommodating about it keeping her tail out of the way and staying right next to the fence. The gelding let me lay under him without stepping on me while I stuck my hand up in his sheath as he proceed to drop and I fondled his prepuce above and behind just inside the top of his sheath. He let me play with the the tip of his penis and probe his urethra. It was very exciting to play with this rather well endowed fellow and feel him bobble and sway under my gentle caresses. He had been a wild stallion capture from yhe heard that use to roam the woods her where I live thus he was fully developed where it mattered. He was a rather large horse as well. So yeah I had a introduction to it at a very early age on a very personal level. So I understand.

I was raised a Seventh Day Adventist so I had to keep my attractions a secret too and am not inclined to reveal them to anyone any time soon. Folks around her just are not understanding or excepting of such things. Some have even voiced the opinion that these types are sick, disgusting, deviants that should be shot. This while excepting lesbians, and homosexuals as being alright.

So yup you are right on the money with your frustration and not being able to understand the situation.

I hope you can be happy and have a wonderful new year in spit of it all!

A most excellent day to you and yours!
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k9able said:
I still have a lot of feelings of embarrassment and shame about my zoo interests... ?
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Try not to let societies expectation of what is normal pull you down. Is your animal companion embarrassed or ashamed of being intimate with you? Of course not! So why feel that way about your time with them. So you don't shout it from the roof tops but there are plenty here if ever you need to share or get something zoo related off your chest. So raise those eyes up and stand proud, you are not a bad person just because you are attracted to animals.
 
I'm 49 and loved dogs for as long as I can remember being with them always just felt right, but in that time I have told at most 5 people that I was a zoo who I didn't know were zoo or at least zoo friendly. I work in an industry where coming out as zoo is just not an option, but there are times I really wish I didn't have to hide such a big part of me. It's more than 20 years since I decided there was absolutely nothing wrong with loving 4 leggers in every sense of the word.

As far as religion goes as others have brought up, I would say If god didn't want us to love animals why did he make them so damn cute and covered in soft stuff that feels good on our skin. Despite what is written in some book transcribed by men, how do we really know what god thinks anyway so why worry about it. If when I die some guy with a halo on gives me a hard time and won't let me in I'll just head down the road ways and pull up a big fluffy cloud with my beloved GSD who is waiting for me and I'll be in heaven anyway, no perly gates required.
 
I wouldn't say I am ashamed of my zoo interests but I would say I'm afraid of society and friends and family shunning me. My family is amazing and if I were to come out as gay or trans or something I feel confident they would accept me and love me. As for beastiality though.. probably not. My fiancee is very open about things and we have spoken about it before. She didn't judge me for liking the porn (or for being a furry) but mentioned she wasn't interested in the real stuff. Things may have changed considering we have recently gotten into puppy play and she is very turned on by being my puppy girl so who knows what she'd say if I ask again! :husky_wink:
 
KnottyLeopard said:
I wouldn't say I am ashamed of my zoo interests but I would say I'm afraid of society and friends and family shunning me.
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When I came out as a furry to my mum, and I was explaining what was and was not a furry thing to some people I brushed over actual animal sex as not being a furry thing to which she replied "Well that's good, because if one of my children wanted to have sex with animals I would have them commited to the looney bin; and you know your father and I couldn't afford the doctor bills for that." So no telling my parents I am a zoo is not happening anytime soon.
 
Thanks to everyone for the good words.
talking to all of you gets me emotional, as so many of us all over the world feel the same. As I said, we are all more alike than different.
We are a community for sure.

Time does not change things...Being a zoo . It is not something that one "grows out of" My wants and desires, and feelings have not changed,.... even as I am older, still busy with career, and life in general, but being a zoo is constantly on my mind...thinking about horses all through the day... I still am in love with my mare...... Just so you young people know.... being old, does not change your feelings inside.... your desires are the same, things don't work like they used to..... but I still look at every dog on the street, see what sex they are..... get very turned on when I am near a horse.... or that wonderful rush when I hug and kiss a horse. Seeing a horse in a parade, as they pass, slightly sweaty, with the tack, and foamy mouth, and their smell as they go by...., almost make me pass out. I am sure you all can relate to all that!!!.

I wish this fear of bad laws always in the background was not there. The laws are based on Consent..... Animals never consent to anything in all other areas of their lives. Some are forced to work, They are all told when and what to do every moment of their lives. They lose their sexuality, or are forced to breed..... by live cover or artificially. forced to live in cramped conditions, and then ultimately lose their life through being slaughtered.
Where is the consent in any of those things... but if we have sex with them, through kindness, consideration, and love...... we are shunned, banned, put in jail, registered as a sex pervert, and so on...... All of this has gone terribly wrong......
The laws have been slowly changed one by one ...state by state.. through the efforts of the animal rights groups..... some of the very ones I have donated to for years for the animals...... I am sure many of you have as well. In reality we are the people who are taking the best care of animals, treating them with respect, kindness and love, putting their needs over our own, doing things right for them. I have always maintained the fact that I have never in my life abused an animal, and I certainly don't intend to. I am sure all of you feel the same way. These laws need to be changed and re written against real animal abuse not for what they call abuse... which in reality is having a loving relationship that includes sex.
 
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HugDoggy said:
When I came out as a furry to my mum, and I was explaining what was and was not a furry thing to some people I brushed over actual animal sex as not being a furry thing to which she replied "Well that's good, because if one of my children wanted to have sex with animals I would have them commited to the looney bin; and you know your father and I couldn't afford the doctor bills for that." So no telling my parents I am a zoo is not happening anytime soon.
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I would probably be in the same boat. They would probably accept me as a furry but only without the sexual implications.
 
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