TheZetaMeta
Tourist
Not particularly up to date with much of online zoo history, so I am pretty curious.
Before the existence of BF, how did zoo’s connect with each other? Were there any sites prior?
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MashaSobaka
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I don't know about international ones, but in my own country there was already a large forum in the early 2000s, as well as several smaller ones. At the bottom of the human sex pages were animal threads with several topics etc.
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
As far as I've learned, zoo groups started forming all the way back in the early days of the internet with Usenet and IRC chats and the like.
I recently read the book "Uniquely Dangerous" and it's a fantastic but sad piece of zoo lore. It's about a multimillionaire tech entrepreneur champion horse breeding drug smuggling zoophile that had a high profile run in with the law back in 2010. It's right in the literature section here on zooville.
I recently read the book "Uniquely Dangerous" and it's a fantastic but sad piece of zoo lore. It's about a multimillionaire tech entrepreneur champion horse breeding drug smuggling zoophile that had a high profile run in with the law back in 2010. It's right in the literature section here on zooville.
Zoohorseman
Tourist
Beast forum was definitely the largest one. Zooville is almost identical to how the site looked/was set up. Different color scheme. That was the only one I knew of and if I remember correctly it showed all the logged in users at the bottom of the page and the record high for most users online which was like several thousand in 2011/12? I've heard there are several smaller ones since BF downfall. But ZV still has a ways to go to get back to where BF was. Also, BF was up for a long time. Not sure when it started but it was definitely older.
As far as furries, there's been a very large split between zoo and fur in the last 5-10 years. Some will outright denounce you if you mention zoo. I always believed fur is a sub culture to zoo. But once it became more mainstream, non zoos started to get involved.
Goattobeloved
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I came late to the party, and was quite shy to show, so I badically lurked. First I knew was Midnite Crow (known previously as Bianca iirc), a butlletin boart type of... um... forum.
Basically mix of shares and conversations. You should still see it at wayback archives. There were a few more before the real internet, though.
Trick beeing... things were more anonymous and everything was permitted by then, so you could literally openly post your interest in beast sex in most normal (porn or not, personal ads...) sites and you'd contact with other interested. Up to you to decide if they were legit.
Plenty of contacts from mucks and roleplaying sites too, I've heard.
If you think that story is sad, you should see all the sadness that left around and the years of suffering for all those involved.
Basically mix of shares and conversations. You should still see it at wayback archives. There were a few more before the real internet, though.
Trick beeing... things were more anonymous and everything was permitted by then, so you could literally openly post your interest in beast sex in most normal (porn or not, personal ads...) sites and you'd contact with other interested. Up to you to decide if they were legit.
Plenty of contacts from mucks and roleplaying sites too, I've heard.
Be aware that is a one sided view of the story. It is interesting to see the other views and compare notes.
If you think that story is sad, you should see all the sadness that left around and the years of suffering for all those involved.
btwiamazoophile
Zooville Settler
Of course! Rarely in life does anyone get to have the full scoop on somebody else. When you're that high profile and as many would view that irresponsible about maintaining safety of your loved ones there's bound to be more drama and hidden truth than will ever be presented to those willing to observe the story. Still very fascinating indeed.
MashaSobaka
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Yeah, I remember some topics dated 2004, around then it was created.
UR20Z
Dumpster Diver
Nah, Bianca and MNC were associated with each other ("Word on the street" had it that MNC and Bianca were BF/GF, but no evidence that I know of for that) but they were distinct entities/boards.
As far as hooking up prior to BF, you'd have to go all the way back to IRC (#beastsex/#dogsex/#horsesex were the main channels, with a handful of "splinter channels") and USENET (alt.sex.beastiality - yes it's spelled wrong - spell it right and all you'll get is "not found" type results) groups. IRC became overrun with script-kiddies constantly hacking the chanels and locking them down, and was eventually pretty much abandoned. USENET in general got pretty well buried in spam in the early 2000s, and while it's possible (with heavy enough filtering) to occasionally find something other than a mountain of "grow your dick" and scam posts, these days, it's become essentially unusable. Alongside those were "talkers" like Lintilla's "The Forest" - which later become Sleepy's Multiple Worlds when Ratatosk and Sleepy had a falling out.
TheZetaMeta
Tourist
Are you able to link this to me? I am hopeless at finding it myself lol.
zaft_horse
Tourist
I don't remember where I really started chatting...Think it was through other furs, back then there wasn't a huge amount of hate in the fandom towards zoo's so was easier. Then I think i found BF and lurked, never chatted tho.