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sarahsingletono98

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i posted this in a little-read forum thread but thought it deserved a home:

Before you share some new clip you find, consider this:
most fund their work through public sales, private-member content; and private collectors.

Those movies are not cheap to make.
the payroll includes: model, producer, director, usually 2-3 editors, 3-4 camera people, 3-4 lighting people, a key grip, cable runners/electrician, 2-3 sound people, a vet, a doctor, a caterer, hotels for most of the crew, airfare for the people who are flying to the location where it's still legal, limo/transportation, lawyer(s), contract negotiator, translator(s), animal handler(s),

- each one of those people are not only paid for their skillset, but they are also paid to keep their mouths shut and paid enough to ensure the content is not leaked.

- the studio/site has to pay for sound stage/location, electricity, lighting equipment rental, camera payment (if smart they depreciate it during each shoot), table and chair rentals, furniture rental, various side equipment, coffee and donuts, cleaning fees after everyone is gone, cleaning fees during the shoot.

A shoot takes place over 3-5 days with multiple takes. What you see is the edited version to make it look like a seamless one-time event.
Basically, a well done film is run like tv studio.

aside from cost, why does it matter?
the people who invest money into a project, do not want to foot the bill for the everyday Joe/jane to pay once and share it twice. So the content remains available only to the investors for 1-2, even up to 5 years. Afterwards, if its in the contract, it's released for public purchases. If not, it remains private forever, or until someone leaks it.

Private collectors (less than 5 people and often just 1 person) funding the entire shoot. Models are much more willing to do these, because the investor(s) have as much reputation to lose as the model does.

in either version, the investors stand to lose a lot of money if they leak it out so everyone is very respectful of each other; and models are more willing to take that work.
the public availability, most models wont touch it, because of how many people share it for free, it kills the industry, and it increases the likelihood of friends and family finding out
 
And since commercial zoo porn is 99% animal abuse, I see no problem in making it less worth doing for the people involved.
This forum prevents people from sharing commercial porn for a set of reasons.
But other places do not and I hope they make it a whole lot less attractive for commercial crap producers to make new porn.
 
Nearly all commercial porn is garbage, that goes for zoo as well as non-zoo porn. I never could understand why/how anyone could get off to watching a manufactured video of someone being paid to have sex with an animal. Just straight up trash. So, in my opinion, whatever large amounts of cheddar these folks are spending on creating this schlock, they should just not bother, pocket the loot, and move along.
 
If you keep talking like that they'll call you something worse than what would happen if family found out.

A SOCIALIST! ?


But yeah I agree. It's been commodified.
And I'll need to think about the question.
 
i posted this in a little-read forum thread but thought it deserved a home:

Before you share some new clip you find, consider this:
most fund their work through public sales, private-member content; and private collectors.

Those movies are not cheap to make.
the payroll includes: model, producer, director, usually 2-3 editors, 3-4 camera people, 3-4 lighting people, a key grip, cable runners/electrician, 2-3 sound people, a vet, a doctor, a caterer, hotels for most of the crew, airfare for the people who are flying to the location where it's still legal, limo/transportation, lawyer(s), contract negotiator, translator(s), animal handler(s),

- each one of those people are not only paid for their skillset, but they are also paid to keep their mouths shut and paid enough to ensure the content is not leaked.

- the studio/site has to pay for sound stage/location, electricity, lighting equipment rental, camera payment (if smart they depreciate it during each shoot), table and chair rentals, furniture rental, various side equipment, coffee and donuts, cleaning fees after everyone is gone, cleaning fees during the shoot.

A shoot takes place over 3-5 days with multiple takes. What you see is the edited version to make it look like a seamless one-time event.
Basically, a well done film is run like tv studio.

aside from cost, why does it matter?
the people who invest money into a project, do not want to foot the bill for the everyday Joe/jane to pay once and share it twice. So the content remains available only to the investors for 1-2, even up to 5 years. Afterwards, if its in the contract, it's released for public purchases. If not, it remains private forever, or until someone leaks it.

Private collectors (less than 5 people and often just 1 person) funding the entire shoot. Models are much more willing to do these, because the investor(s) have as much reputation to lose as the model does.

in either version, the investors stand to lose a lot of money if they leak it out so everyone is very respectful of each other; and models are more willing to take that work.
the public availability, most models wont touch it, because of how many people share it for free, it kills the industry, and it increases the likelihood of friends and family finding out


Sorry, but I am going to call BS. Fantasy.

Even high quality normal porn like Blacked or Mofos or Bang Bros run with crews under 6 people. AOZ runs with even smaller crews. Crews for k9/boar/horse Collectors in Europe run with a crew of 2, at maximum 3. Perfect sound and video at 4k. Shoot, LUT, edit, audio track is done in 1.5 days. Technology has made it so easy. The hardest part is deciding what stays on the "cutting room floor". If you need 2-3 editors, your shooting crew screwed up badly. If you need so many lighting people, you have incompetent people. Komodo or Black Magic 6k cameras with great lenses don't need to be rented. The camera man has them already.

The composition of crew has not changed much since the 1990s. Back then it was film or early Beta tape camera. 3 crew max for animal porn (yes, the Danish, Dutch and German films)

It sounds like you need a whole unionized Film crew to pull off a high quality animal film. LOL.

Ask anyone who has been in front of a real k9 shoot camera what goes on.

It is factually incorrect what you are claiming. NONE of the animal scene is running a production the size you are claiming. NONE.
 
What exactly is the point of this post? Is this some sort of "you wouldn't download a car" situation because I assure I certainly would download a car.
 
i posted this in a little-read forum thread but thought it deserved a home:

Before you share some new clip you find, consider this:
most fund their work through public sales, private-member content; and private collectors.

Those movies are not cheap to make.
the payroll includes: model, producer, director, usually 2-3 editors, 3-4 camera people, 3-4 lighting people, a key grip, cable runners/electrician, 2-3 sound people, a vet, a doctor, a caterer, hotels for most of the crew, airfare for the people who are flying to the location where it's still legal, limo/transportation, lawyer(s), contract negotiator, translator(s), animal handler(s),

- each one of those people are not only paid for their skillset, but they are also paid to keep their mouths shut and paid enough to ensure the content is not leaked.

- the studio/site has to pay for sound stage/location, electricity, lighting equipment rental, camera payment (if smart they depreciate it during each shoot), table and chair rentals, furniture rental, various side equipment, coffee and donuts, cleaning fees after everyone is gone, cleaning fees during the shoot.

A shoot takes place over 3-5 days with multiple takes. What you see is the edited version to make it look like a seamless one-time event.
Basically, a well done film is run like tv studio.

aside from cost, why does it matter?
the people who invest money into a project, do not want to foot the bill for the everyday Joe/jane to pay once and share it twice. So the content remains available only to the investors for 1-2, even up to 5 years. Afterwards, if its in the contract, it's released for public purchases. If not, it remains private forever, or until someone leaks it.

Private collectors (less than 5 people and often just 1 person) funding the entire shoot. Models are much more willing to do these, because the investor(s) have as much reputation to lose as the model does.

in either version, the investors stand to lose a lot of money if they leak it out so everyone is very respectful of each other; and models are more willing to take that work.
the public availability, most models wont touch it, because of how many people share it for free, it kills the industry, and it increases the likelihood of friends and family finding out

I understand your point, even so, they are quite common problems that any company or person that generates content experiences every day, from an influencer to the large film, music and video game industries.
 
Honestly I prefer the amateur stuff I have seen. More spontaneous, the connection between the person and their zoo partner is more palpable. Those are the emotional connections that draw me to Zoo. I have seen people on the forum begging to be allowed access to animals, probably still having their Z card. It smells of desperation, and desperation rarely leads to anything worth repeating.
 
Honestly I prefer the amateur stuff I have seen. More spontaneous, the connection between the person and their zoo partner is more palpable. Those are the emotional connections that draw me to Zoo. I have seen people on the forum begging to be allowed access to animals, probably still having their Z card. It smells of desperation, and desperation rarely leads to anything worth repeating.
given all the choices available, I think most if not all people would prefer the amateur content. Even when edited, it is closer to real than any of what is commercial
 
Hopefully, the models are getting paid well in the "commercial" zooporn like AOZ. I don't like to see that dildogging crap that seems to happen a lot or blowjobs when the dog clearly trying to pull away and doesn't like it. I want to see the true passion associated with animalsex and would gladly pay for it. As far as the piracy goes, I'm not sure there is a way to stop it, unfortunately.

I'd much rather see people make amateur content and freely share it but maybe with just a bit better camera work...lol
 
Hopefully, the models are getting paid well in the "commercial" zooporn like AOZ. I don't like to see that dildogging crap that seems to happen a lot or blowjobs when the dog clearly trying to pull away and doesn't like it. I want to see the true passion associated with animalsex and would gladly pay for it. As far as the piracy goes, I'm not sure there is a way to stop it, unfortunately.

I'd much rather see people make amateur content and freely share it but maybe with just a bit better camera work...lol
I'm totally agree with you. Amateurs vid are more real and passioned and enthusiasts in some vids
 
Hopefully, the models are getting paid well in the "commercial" zooporn like AOZ. I don't like to see that dildogging crap that seems to happen a lot or blowjobs when the dog clearly trying to pull away and doesn't like it. I want to see the true passion associated with animalsex and would gladly pay for it. As far as the piracy goes, I'm not sure there is a way to stop it, unfortunately.

I'd much rather see people make amateur content and freely share it but maybe with just a bit better camera work...lol
completely hit and miss. A site like Aoz does not get huge by paying well. some models do, some get trash pay.
 
Hopefully, the models are getting paid well in the "commercial" zooporn like AOZ. I don't like to see that dildogging crap that seems to happen a lot or blowjobs when the dog clearly trying to pull away and doesn't like it. I want to see the true passion associated with animalsex and would gladly pay for it. As far as the piracy goes, I'm not sure there is a way to stop it, unfortunately.

I'd much rather see people make amateur content and freely share it but maybe with just a bit better camera work...lol
Cause sometimes homemade content feels more natural I think. Like “true passion or true love”. That doesn’t mind that Raven’s or Silesto’s videos are not great, they are hot. That explains why are those videos expensive
 
Hopefully, the models are getting paid well in the "commercial" zooporn like AOZ. I don't like to see that dildogging crap that seems to happen a lot or blowjobs when the dog clearly trying to pull away and doesn't like it. I want to see the true passion associated with animalsex and would gladly pay for it. As far as the piracy goes, I'm not sure there is a way to stop it, unfortunately.

I'd much rather see people make amateur content and freely share it but maybe with just a bit better camera work...lol
I couldn't agree with you more. It really is a turn off for us. Absolutely love your profile btw, so sexy lol
 
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