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Anyone else tired of it being a kink/fetish?

LittIePuppy

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I get it's not the norm but I like who I am and I love my partner in every way .
It makes me feel like I'm suppose to feel ashamed when people call it a fetish or a kink . Can't I just be me and look after my boy and give him and I the best of kifes together .
He's here a portion of my life but I'm here for his entire life . We are soul mates not depraved individuals into kinky buttsex
 
There is a difference between zoophilia and zoo kink/fetish, so if you are a zoophile you are not a kink. But that entails being into animals and not people.
 
I've never really given it any thought. I'm someone who enjoys what I enjoy and likes to see those I love enjoying themselves too. I don't really have time nor do I particularly care whatever labels get thrown at it. I think people get far too obsessed with words and defintions and where that might place them within some mythical hierarchy they dreamed up in their minds. Its one of the biggest things that has put me off the zoo forums over the years. I just want to have fun. I don't care what people call it. I don't care what mental gymnastics people use to make themselves feel better about what they do. The whole thing is absurd to me. Life is short... I just want to have fun and see those I love enjoying themselves. People will do what they do for all the complicated reasons they think they need to do that. I'll just be over here not worrying about that enjoying life instead.
 
Yes, but it is a good thing.
Basically when you see someone refering to it as "kink" "fetish" "dirty" or "depraved" and such, you know you do not want to invest too much time or effort in them ?
 
I get it, I do, but you can’t force someone who isn’t inherently attracted to dogs (or any animal) to be. Some people are just into the sex and as long as they’re not hurting any animals we have no right to resent them for it.
 
I get it's not the norm but I like who I am and I love my partner in every way .
It makes me feel like I'm suppose to feel ashamed when people call it a fetish or a kink . Can't I just be me and look after my boy and give him and I the best of kifes together .
He's here a portion of my life but I'm here for his entire life . We are soul mates not depraved individuals into kinky buttsex
No
 
I myself am on the fence on wether I’m a zoophile or simply into this as a fetish. It started as a fetish but I’ve slowly started to question if maybe it’s more than that.

Honestly, I see it as fine either way! We’re lustful creatures and I don’t think it’s wrong to indulge in carnal urges— sharing that experience with another person or our animal companions.
 
I'm also tired of any woman who participates in this lifestyle being automatically labeled a "slut" or "whore" by most of the men around here. Yes some enjoy those labels, but many more have been driven away from communities like this because of that type of thing.
 
I'm also tired of any woman who participates in this lifestyle being automatically labeled a "slut" or "whore" by most of the men around here. Yes some enjoy those labels, but many more have been driven away from communities like this because of that type of thing.
I'm not sure that 'most of the men around here' label these zoo females as 'sluts' and 'whores'. I haven't noticed it much, and besides, you're not going to be making very many female friends here that way are you? It happens a lot on the wider porn internet though, and it really pisses me off.

I'm not really interested in chatting to men here on zv, and if females are being driven away that's a very bad thing imo.
 
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I'm also tired of any woman who participates in this lifestyle being automatically labeled a "slut" or "whore" by most of the men around here. Yes some enjoy those labels, but many more have been driven away from communities like this because of that type of thing.
To be honest it looks like the usual way most men work, not in this forum, but in any sex orientated page.

Personally I find it odd and think it should NOT work, so either I just do not get it, or people doing that do not get anything. Seriously, idk but does not worry me either coming to know about it.
 
My understanding is that a kink is an extra bit that might make things more exciting/enjoyable, but that the person doesn't need it to have a fulfilling experience. I tend to think that if the attraction is a core part of you, something that even without sex you'd still want them for their companionship then it's something more than just a kink.

Sex or no sex, I cannot fathom living life without a dog. I've been a zoo for decades, some of those years without sex, but all of them with canine companions.
 
I'm also tired of any woman who participates in this lifestyle being automatically labeled a "slut" or "whore" by most of the men around here. Yes some enjoy those labels, but many more have been driven away from communities like this because of that type of thing.
The girls I've talked to who engage in this behavior have called themselves whores or sluts while not being shy about sending me nudes
 
No shame......the kink aspect is personal, your take on your relationship or lack of it. Lack of it would indicate kink to my mind. Its time to forget what other people think, we each have our own wants and needs and who cares what the next persons wants and needs are? Its not ours to own. Its theirs. Live you life, your way, harm none with intent, love and be loved. It takes time to grapple with, but its true I think. Your life. Live it your way.
 
There is a difference between zoophilia and zoo kink/fetish
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so if you are a zoophile you are not a kink.
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But that entails being into animals and not people.
Not necessarily. While I'm more sexually attracted to animals than I am to humans, I myself would be fine with being in a relationship with a human under the right circumstances, such as with another zoophile. In such a situation love and attention would be split 50/50. But just because I'm "bi-species-sexual" for both humans and non-human animals doesn't necessarily mean that I value and cherish the love, the bond, the relationship I have with my dog any less than someone that happens to be zoo exclusive, nor do I consider my relationship with my non-human partner a "kink."
 
I like that...Me to a T
Lol. I kind of just made it up on the spot. I'm not "bi-sexual" because I have zero sexual interest in males, both human and non-human. But I definitely have some interest in both female animals and women, even if I'm way more attracted to female canines than women.
 
This should be normal by now. It’s 2022 and there are so many things that have become normalized which were taboo in the past. Feeling is a feeling irrespective of living species. If people in some parts of the world can marry dogs, why not be your partner and normalize this living.
 
There is a difference between zoophilia and zoo kink/fetish, so if you are a zoophile you are not a kink. But that entails being into animals and not people.

I simply say that it is a Lifestyle. Just like being a Bachelor, or Married. Gay or Straight, Lesbian or Trans. It is your Lifestyle. Now, if you simply use your animal to 'spice up' a night with your partner, then it's not a Lifestyle, but a kink like using strapons or other toys once in a while.

As for all-or-mothing in being a zoophile, I say you can have a human partner as long both are treated equally. Just like those who live with multiple wives. Keep juggling and eveyone is happy. Now that's an extreme example, but I hope you see what I mean.
 
Kinksters and fetishists typically use non-human partners essentially as a living sex toy with little to no consideration given to their wants, dislikes, pleasure, comfort and happiness on a level equal to or above their own, which creates a very unhealthy power dynamic and a much greater possibility for rapey behavioral tendencies. You see that shit all the time in old commercial zoo porn. It's all just one step above rape as far as I'm concerned and a lot of it IS actual rape. There's obviously just as much "grey area" here with zoo kink and fetish as there is grey area in human emotion and levels of attraction. But thought dictates behavior in one way or another, and that can lead to force being applied in the heat of the moment when the non-human partner isn't doing what they want them to do and the person is getting increasingly desperate to finish and cum. That's just one of many reasons why I don't like fetishists and kinksters into zoo.

It's not right to use another being to get off even if no apparent harm is being done. Force or restraint of any kind is rape, and unless the foremost thing on your mind is your non-human partner's happiness, pleasure and well being, there's risk for mistreatment.

On the other paw, if there's a genuine sense of love, equality and caring for them and their well being over and above the typical "pet"-"master" relationship, which your relationship seems to be, then its not kink, it's not fetishism, it's not using them. You're mates and it's your sexual and romantic orientation and something to cherish. Unless it happens to be a trauma-response from childhood sexual abuse, then it's something that should be healed. But that's a whole other conversation.
 
Not necessarily. While I'm more sexually attracted to animals than I am to humans, I myself would be fine with being in a relationship with a human under the right circumstances, such as with another zoophile. In such a situation love and attention would be split 50/50. But just because I'm "bi-species-sexual" for both humans and non-human animals doesn't necessarily mean that I value and cherish the love, the bond, the relationship I have with my dog any less than someone that happens to be zoo exclusive, nor do I consider my relationship with my non-human partner a "kink."
Agreed. I love being with other human females, but the rest of me belongs to my canine partner.
 
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This should be normal by now. It’s 2022 and there are so many things that have become normalized which were taboo in the past. Feeling is a feeling irrespective of living species. If people in some parts of the world can marry dogs, why not be your partner and normalize this living.
I think of all animals, dogs would probably be the easiest for most people to accept as not a big deal. As a species we've co-evolved with them for so long, they instinctually know how to read out body language, etc.
I think the main thing preventing it... is people also common equate dogs as 'almost children'. And since people have an obvious revulsion to anything sexualty with children (as they should)... the idea of a dog ends up being reviled as well.
 
I myself am on the fence on wether I’m a zoophile or simply into this as a fetish. It started as a fetish but I’ve slowly started to question if maybe it’s more than that.

Honestly, I see it as fine either way! We’re lustful creatures and I don’t think it’s wrong to indulge in carnal urges— sharing that experience with another person or our animal companions.
Its certainly one way to go about it uwu
 
I think of all animals, dogs would probably be the easiest for most people to accept as not a big deal. As a species we've co-evolved with them for so long, they instinctually know how to read out body language, etc.
I think the main thing preventing it... is people also common equate dogs as 'almost children'. And since people have an obvious revulsion to anything sexualty with children (as they should)... the idea of a dog ends up being reviled as well.
Very well said and the logic is right spot on. I still feel there’ll be one day where rights start to get legal around the world once again and it’ll be just normal
 
Kinksters and fetishists typically use non-human partners essentially as a living sex toy with little to no consideration given to their wants, dislikes, pleasure, comfort and happiness on a level equal to or above their own, which creates a very unhealthy power dynamic and a much greater possibility for rapey behavioral tendencies. You see that shit all the time in old commercial zoo porn. It's all just one step above rape as far as I'm concerned and a lot of it IS actual rape. There's obviously just as much "grey area" here with zoo kink and fetish as there is grey area in human emotion and levels of attraction. But thought dictates behavior in one way or another, and that can lead to force being applied in the heat of the moment when the non-human partner isn't doing what they want them to do and the person is getting increasingly desperate to finish and cum. That's just one of many reasons why I don't like fetishists and kinksters into zoo.
Whilst I get and appreciate the point you're making, I can't fully agree. This may be because I've been active in the fetish/kink scene for a fairly long time, but generally speaking the comfort and consent of your partner is paramount. Any decent Dom(me) will generally put the safety and comfort of their sub first, insofar as it's been agreed. Obviously there may be scenarios where you (consensually) push boundaries, but that's what safewords are for. Society in general tends to view both fetish and kink as "nasty" or "wrong", but frankly a lot of that is due to media and public opinion distorting the core of how it is (or at least should be).

For myself, I probably would have to qualify it as a fetish or kink. Zoophilia to me also carries the subtext of romantic interest. Granted, I've not had any pets since moving out of my parents', but no matter how much I've loved the pets we have (and they still have) I can't see it as a "true" romantic relationship. I simply cannot imagine having the same connection with a dog, mare, ewe, or other pet than I'd have with a woman. I care for them, I love them, I'd never dream of hurting them, and I'd probably kill someone who would. But I can't imagine it being the same. Mind you, I also haven't actually had any relationships (beyond regular pet-owner) with animals outside of some fumbling in my early teens, so things could change.

As it stands now though, any zoo relationship I'd have would probably be more akin to friends with benefits than a romantic relationship. Meaning it'd be hot, fun, and I'd show my interest - but if it's not reciprocated, I'll live and be fine with that. I'd also likely desire a human partner for "more advanced" emotional fulfilment and intellectual clicks.
 
I’m black, that’s a fetish, kink, personal choice, preference, and/or curiosity…. However you look at never be ashamed or less than it’s just that. Everything doesn’t have to be labeled, categorically correct. Live your life and stop giving a damn what others do that necessarily does not impact your life. Wish you all the best
I get it's not the norm but I like who I am and I love my partner in every way .
It makes me feel like I'm suppose to feel ashamed when people call it a fetish or a kink . Can't I just be me and look after my boy and give him and I the best of kifes together .
He's here a portion of my life but I'm here for his entire life . We are soul mates not depraved individuals into kinky buttsex
 
I get it's not the norm but I like who I am and I love my partner in every way .
It makes me feel like I'm suppose to feel ashamed when people call it a fetish or a kink . Can't I just be me and look after my boy and give him and I the best of kifes together .
He's here a portion of my life but I'm here for his entire life . We are soul mates not depraved individuals into kinky buttsex
I find this topic interesting. For me the word kink or fetish doesn’t carry a negative connotation. Just like slut or whore doesn’t either, I love being a slut, I’d fuck all day if I could. I use the words kink and fetish as a bundle of sexual proclivities that ultimately provide a portion of a picture of who I am, for example, I’m an exhibitionist to my core. Yes it is a fetish to have people in non sexual environments see me in a sexual way, and holy fuck that gets me off. I’m also a sexual submissive. When the right type of person who knows how to stimulate that part of my mind hits the right keys, I’d do just about anything in that moment. I use the word kink or fetish to describe or bundle those aspects when talking to other people as a conversational vehicle that is easy for others to understand. Now, I’ve not had any encounters with an animal yet, so I may not be offering anything positive to this conversation. But I plan to, someday. and I think I’ll view myself the same way.
 
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