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Any tips for a first timer buying a mare??

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For a zoo, what would be some things to consider when buying a mare for the first time? (Outside of having enough land and food for her.)

From what I’ve gathered, finding the friendliest mare is best. You want to make sure that they’re comfortable around humans and don’t spook too easy to simple things. These mares are the easiest to build a mutual loving relationship with. I’ve seen that it’s best to also get a gelding to accompany her as managing two mares can be a handful for a first timer. You also need to spend lots of time with them to help build the relationship.

Another thing that I’ve read is that you also want to make sure she’s reproductively sound and healthy.

Outside of those things, what are some tips you guys can provide when it comes to buying your first mare?
- Are there certain breeds that you avoid or favor? - Are there any breeders you guys would recommend to buy from (in the southern USA) based on your personal experience with getting a mare?
- what age range should the mare be?
- what are some questions you ask to vet the seller/breeder?
 
I personally recommend an Arabian, age is completely irrelevant to me as I've had extremely good experiences with ones ranging from two year olds to their 30s. Appaloosas, Paints and Quarter Horses are also a good choice depending on what type of riding if any you are interested in.
 
I agree, the Arabian breed is very successful in this regard. It can be a little difficult to establish a relationship with them (hot blood affects), but if you try hard, you can most often define them as a horse of one owner/partner.
About the company. The best choice would be a pony mare - not so expensive to maintain, calmer than a thoroughbred mare and most importantly, WILL NOT COMPETE FOR THE ATTENTION OF YOUR MARE, a gelding is contraindicated if you do not want to constantly be number two on your mare's list or she will not pay attention to you at all.

First of all, look at the horse's teeth (I will attach a visual example) to determine its age.
Then you need to look at its legs, all joints should be "dry", without softness and swelling.
Also, if you are going to buy a 5-10 year old mare, you should look at her undertail, whether there are any pathologies (sunken vagina, scars, etc.). Give the horse a hard apple and watch how she chews, if she starts to sort it out with her tongue, trying to put it in a certain point, then she has problems with her teeth.
Check the hooves, if there are any cracks.
Inspect the whole body, whether there are any sharp depressions (very often a pit appears on the neck - these are torn muscles).

From the recommendations for maintenance, everything is according to the standard: walking for at least 4 hours a day, company (if you want to establish a romantic relationship with the mare, then completely eliminate communication with male horses geldings and stallions), decent food - hay should not be dusty (it can cause allergies and even coccygeal disease over time). Balanced nutrition with concentrates (grain). A dry stall, well, and cleanliness - in a dirty, neglected stable, horses get sick more often.

This is the main thing, but it is better to take a veterinarian with you to the initial examination.
 

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Don't get a horse if:

- You don't have prior experience with horses.
- Just want one for the sex.
- Don't have disposable income for unexpected veterinary bills.
- You don't intend on getting a second horse.

Horses are fucking fragile and extremely good at hiding pain.
If you don't know what to look for, you can't take care of one.
Taking care for a horse doesn't end at feeding them and letting them roam free.
Horses are herd animals and get extremely lonely if they don't have a friend. (A human friend is not enough)

The questions you're asking make me think you don't really have any significant experience caring for horses...

I would strongly advice you first get active at some stables. Learn to ride, help out at the stables, get to know them.
 
Bloit said:
Don't get a horse if:

- You don't have prior experience with horses.
- Just want one for the sex.
- Don't have disposable income for unexpected veterinary bills.
- You don't intend on getting a second horse.

Horses are fucking fragile and extremely good at hiding pain.
If you don't know what to look for, you can't take care of one.
Taking care for a horse doesn't end at feeding them and letting them roam free.
Horses are herd animals and get extremely lonely if they don't have a friend. (A human friend is not enough)

The questions you're asking make me think you don't really have any significant experience caring for horses...

I would strongly advice you first get active at some stables. Learn to ride, help out at the stables, get to know them.
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I completely agree. I actually have some experience caring for them, but have never owned horses of my own. I’ve only cared for neighbors horses. Right now, I’m working locally with very experienced people in the equestrian field. I plan to put at least 1-2 years into learning everything I need to know before starting my search for a horse. Thus, the point of my research with not only learning here, but also hands-on locally. I don’t want to get a horse until I’m completely confident in being able to care for one. I want to give my animals the best lives possible. Eventually, I’d love to have 2-3 horses for trail riding purposes or even just to keep as pets and trail ride some of the time.
 
1Ostwind1 said:
I agree, the Arabian breed is very successful in this regard. It can be a little difficult to establish a relationship with them (hot blood affects), but if you try hard, you can most often define them as a horse of one owner/partner.
About the company. The best choice would be a pony mare - not so expensive to maintain, calmer than a thoroughbred mare and most importantly, WILL NOT COMPETE FOR THE ATTENTION OF YOUR MARE, a gelding is contraindicated if you do not want to constantly be number two on your mare's list or she will not pay attention to you at all.

First of all, look at the horse's teeth (I will attach a visual example) to determine its age.
Then you need to look at its legs, all joints should be "dry", without softness and swelling.
Also, if you are going to buy a 5-10 year old mare, you should look at her undertail, whether there are any pathologies (sunken vagina, scars, etc.). Give the horse a hard apple and watch how she chews, if she starts to sort it out with her tongue, trying to put it in a certain point, then she has problems with her teeth.
Check the hooves, if there are any cracks.
Inspect the whole body, whether there are any sharp depressions (very often a pit appears on the neck - these are torn muscles).

From the recommendations for maintenance, everything is according to the standard: walking for at least 4 hours a day, company (if you want to establish a romantic relationship with the mare, then completely eliminate communication with male horses geldings and stallions), decent food - hay should not be dusty (it can cause allergies and even coccygeal disease over time). Balanced nutrition with concentrates (grain). A dry stall, well, and cleanliness - in a dirty, neglected stable, horses get sick more often.

This is the main thing, but it is better to take a veterinarian with you to the initial examination.
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Very informative. Thank you! I’ll note this down.
 
Mare Lover 1975 said:
I personally recommend an Arabian, age is completely irrelevant to me as I've had extremely good experiences with ones ranging from two year olds to their 30s. Appaloosas, Paints and Quarter Horses are also a good choice depending on what type of riding if any you are interested in.
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Ok great. I’ve also considered a warmblood, a Tennessee walking horse, Colorado ranger, paints and quarter horses. Outside of having them as pets, I’d probably just do some trail riding.
 
1Ostwind1 said:
I agree, the Arabian breed is very successful in this regard. It can be a little difficult to establish a relationship with them (hot blood affects), but if you try hard, you can most often define them as a horse of one owner/partner.
About the company. The best choice would be a pony mare - not so expensive to maintain, calmer than a thoroughbred mare and most importantly, WILL NOT COMPETE FOR THE ATTENTION OF YOUR MARE, a gelding is contraindicated if you do not want to constantly be number two on your mare's list or she will not pay attention to you at all.

First of all, look at the horse's teeth (I will attach a visual example) to determine its age.
Then you need to look at its legs, all joints should be "dry", without softness and swelling.
Also, if you are going to buy a 5-10 year old mare, you should look at her undertail, whether there are any pathologies (sunken vagina, scars, etc.). Give the horse a hard apple and watch how she chews, if she starts to sort it out with her tongue, trying to put it in a certain point, then she has problems with her teeth.
Check the hooves, if there are any cracks.
Inspect the whole body, whether there are any sharp depressions (very often a pit appears on the neck - these are torn muscles).

From the recommendations for maintenance, everything is according to the standard: walking for at least 4 hours a day, company (if you want to establish a romantic relationship with the mare, then completely eliminate communication with male horses geldings and stallions), decent food - hay should not be dusty (it can cause allergies and even coccygeal disease over time). Balanced nutrition with concentrates (grain). A dry stall, well, and cleanliness - in a dirty, neglected stable, horses get sick more often.

This is the main thing, but it is better to take a veterinarian with you to the initial examination.
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Reading over this again, you make an interesting point about getting two mares as opposed to one mare and one gelding.

In my studies, I’ve heard/read that having a gelding can “entertain” a mare when the human partner isn’t present (even though the gelding shows little to no interest in the mare). I’ve read that this can also help when a human is intimate with the mare since the presence of a gelding can excite the mare. Moving forward, I’ll take your advice since I can also see this being of benefit to someone as an owner because it would keep the mares (both mares) temperaments more stable as opposed to a mare acting out due to there being a gelding around… right?
 
This is a personal matter for each owner and the development of the situation can be radically different.
But there are three possible options:
1. You have two mares, this will be more difficult, since you will need to develop a relationship with your mare to the level that she considers you her stallion. Study her, develop your own methods of foreplay, etc. But it is worth it. Since you become real lovers or even a family - like me with my beloved (she doesn't pay "attention" to anyone except me).
2. You have a mare and a gelding. You will always be a guest for her. Since her main attention will be on the gelding. Moreover, the gelding can unexpectedly awaken the stallion in himself and start covering her. Then you generally fade into the background and into the sunset, she can allow you to have sex with her, but again you are second. (I personally saw a gelding who didn't notice mares for 13 years, and then jumped on one and off we go).
3. You have mare and gelding. The most unpleasant option, but quite possible, she will focus on this gelding and simply will not notice you as a sexual partner and as soon as you try to approach her with sexual desire, she will leave, even when she is in heat.
 
I know that some people keep horses with companion animals of different species if two horses are too much, like with say goats or llamas or cows, but I'm not experienced enough to tell you how well horses generally handle such setups in the long term vs keeping them in a proper horse herd. I've heard it more often in the context of donkeys, speaking of which, have you considered a donkey?

Another option is boarding your horse at a facility, which will relieve you of many difficulties regarding care, but will also limit your opportunities to develop a relationship, intimacy included (especially with cameras everywhere).
 
You can also take a donkey, but again only a female. Otherwise, the situation will repeat itself as with the gelding...
canecorso said:
I know that some people keep horses with companion animals of different species if two horses are too much, like with say goats or llamas or cows, but I'm not experienced enough to tell you how well horses generally handle such setups in the long term vs keeping them in a proper horse herd. I've heard it more often in the context of donkeys, speaking of which, have you considered a donkey?

Another option is boarding your horse at a facility, which will relieve you of many difficulties regarding care, but will also limit your opportunities to develop a relationship, intimacy included (especially with cameras everywhere).
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canecorso said:
What if you started "entertaining" the frisky gelding though? :unsure:
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Nothing good (unless of course your orientation is homosexual. But then why do you need a mare?), this will further encourage him to pester you and your mare and will push you even further away from the desired relationship with your mare.
 
1Ostwind1 said:
Nothing good (unless of course your orientation is homosexual), this will further encourage him to pester you and your mare and will push you even further away from the desired relationship with your mare.
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Technically it could make the mare jealous and more needy of attention? Although there's an obvious limit where it starts being purely manipulative instead of what was originally intended...
 
canecorso said:
Technically it could make the mare jealous and more needy of attention? Although there's an obvious limit where it starts being purely manipulative instead of what was originally intended...
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No, unless your mare is jealous of you to all horses ( but for that you must already have a strong relationship).
 
To sum it up, if you want to establish a romantic relationship with a mare, she should not see male horses (at least during the formation of your relationship). Also, even if you have formed a strong relationship, you should not let her out with stallions, they can simply rape her, as can some particularly active geldings.
 
canecorso said:
From what age (horse) did you have her? In what kind of setup?

Perhaps one swings both ways, but is still more mare inclined...
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If you are interested in my beloved, she has been with me since she was 1.6 years old (I took her from a paddock for young fillies). And I was lucky because there were no male horses in our first stable (you could say that at the time of our relationship establishing she did not know that they existed). Our "serious" relationship began when she was 2.4 years old.





If you want to be on both sides, then you should keep them separate.
 
1Ostwind1 said:
This is a personal matter for each owner and the development of the situation can be radically different.
But there are three possible options:
1. You have two mares, this will be more difficult, since you will need to develop a relationship with your mare to the level that she considers you her stallion. Study her, develop your own methods of foreplay, etc. But it is worth it. Since you become real lovers or even a family - like me with my beloved (she doesn't pay "attention" to anyone except me).
2. You have a mare and a gelding. You will always be a guest for her. Since her main attention will be on the gelding. Moreover, the gelding can unexpectedly awaken the stallion in himself and start covering her. Then you generally fade into the background and into the sunset, she can allow you to have sex with her, but again you are second. (I personally saw a gelding who didn't notice mares for 13 years, and then jumped on one and off we go).
3. You have mare and gelding. The most unpleasant option, but quite possible, she will focus on this gelding and simply will not notice you as a sexual partner and as soon as you try to approach her with sexual desire, she will leave, even when she is in heat.
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What if a person was to get a mare and a couple female mini cows or regular sized cows? Would that work? (I can only assume female animals of any kind as long as they are farm animals would work with having one mare.)

If a person was to get two mares, wouldn’t you need to keep both of them “satisfied”? Or could you just have a relationship with one? When in heat, I’m sure it would be tough to keep both of them intimately satisfied.

Would the two mares get along after seeing one getting “special attention” and the other not? I can only imagine that giving one “attention” would make the other jealous. Surely the main one you’re trying to have a relationship with wouldn’t appreciate a “side chick/side mare”, right?
 
Highcountry said:
What if a person was to get a mare and a couple female mini cows or regular sized cows? Would that work? (I can only assume female animals of any kind as long as they are farm animals would work with having one mare.)

If a person was to get two mares, wouldn’t you need to keep both of them “satisfied”? Or could you just have a relationship with one? When in heat, I’m sure it would be tough to keep both of them intimately satisfied.

Would the two mares get along after seeing one getting “special attention” and the other not? I can only imagine that giving one “attention” would make the other jealous. Surely the main one you’re trying to have a relationship with wouldn’t appreciate a “side chick/side mare”, right?
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As for the relationship between mares and other non-horse species, I can't give you any advice.

Believe me, satisfying two mares is not as difficult as you think (according to the stories of my experienced zoo friends, some of them maintain relationships with 4 or even 13 at once).
You can't leave the girls unsatisfied - it's not gentlemanly.
In addition, you don't need to single out one special one, believe me, they are all special and worth every second of attention.

They won't be jealous if you spent time with one today and then with another tomorrow.
But if you constantly deprive one of simple attention, then she certainly won't like it (as well as the gelding).
 
Full size mare and a pony mare, donkey jenny, molly mule or a miniature mare/jenny/molly would be your best choice. While other species work for keeping a equine company it's not worth the extra effort of keeping them if they are simply a companion for your mare. Different feeds such as some for cattle are lethal to equines for example, same with hay that is fine for a cow very much isn't safe for a horse.
 
I really don't have much to add based on the comments of @1Ostwind1 and @Mare Lover 1975. Your plan to spend time learning first is laudable. You will discover, hopefully, there isn't really a 'right' breed but there are 'right' individuals. Age should only be a factor with regard to previous experiences, clean slates may be easier to work with. I've raised two foals (e.g., an equine under a year of age). One came as a 4 month old weanling that is 32 now. The other came with her mother as a nursling at 6 weeks old, she's 21 now.

There are two resources here on ZooVille that offer excellent advice on developing a relationship with a female equine and pleasing them. Here are the links:

Pleasuring Mares: a Guide for Considerate Human Partners

Could not find the author now, but I believe this was from BF. So credits to the author(s). Pleasuring Mares: a Guide for Considerate Human Partners The following discussion is intended as the beginning of an evolutionary document. If you wish contribute, please feel free to submit suggested...
www.zoovilleforum.net www.zoovilleforum.net

Bringing a Mare to Orgasm During Intercourse

This is an article I authored some years ago that I kept private on the methodology I discovered that is most effective in bringing a mare to orgasm during intercourse. The joy and satisfaction of experiencing a mare's orgasmic pleasure adds a...
www.zoovilleforum.net www.zoovilleforum.net

Feel free to dialog with me via direct message. My main purpose here on ZooVille is to help educate others seeking to know the heart of equus, especially the 'ladies'. By helping others learn I'm able to give more than just myself back to beings that are actually unicorns that carry a beautiful light and powerful magic...
 
Highcountry said:
If a person was to get two mares, wouldn’t you need to keep both of them “satisfied”? Or could you just have a relationship with one? When in heat, I’m sure it would be tough to keep both of them intimately satisfied.

Would the two mares get along after seeing one getting “special attention” and the other not? I can only imagine that giving one “attention” would make the other jealous. Surely the main one you’re trying to have a relationship with wouldn’t appreciate a “side chick/side mare”, right?
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Remember there is no guarantee that any two mares will be interested in having sex at all much less at the same time, while it's likely to happen over time as one sees the other enjoying herself you'll find yourself having to take turns with the pair of them, oh what a terrible chore to have to experience ?

Two or three isn't that bad, six first heat fillies however is a test of endurance that I don't want to ever repeat.
 
1Ostwind1 said:
My applause, But even if you don't want a repeat of this, you probably remember it with a smile.) From such an amount of attention from girls, you can go crazy?.
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Yeah I remember that time quite fondly but I don't think I could handle six randy two year olds wanting what their dams were getting but not allowed to have (aka their sire) so I had to fill in for him, and fill them repeatedly ?
 
EponasDevotee said:
I really don't have much to add based on the comments of @1Ostwind1 and @Mare Lover 1975. Your plan to spend time learning first is laudable. You will discover, hopefully, there isn't really a 'right' breed but there are 'right' individuals. Age should only be a factor with regard to previous experiences, clean slates may be easier to work with. I've raised two foals (e.g., an equine under a year of age). One came as a 4 month old weanling that is 32 now. The other came with her mother as a nursling at 6 weeks old, she's 21 now.

There are two resources here on ZooVille that offer excellent advice on developing a relationship with a female equine and pleasing them. Here are the links:

Pleasuring Mares: a Guide for Considerate Human Partners

Could not find the author now, but I believe this was from BF. So credits to the author(s). Pleasuring Mares: a Guide for Considerate Human Partners The following discussion is intended as the beginning of an evolutionary document. If you wish contribute, please feel free to submit suggested...
www.zoovilleforum.net www.zoovilleforum.net

Bringing a Mare to Orgasm During Intercourse

This is an article I authored some years ago that I kept private on the methodology I discovered that is most effective in bringing a mare to orgasm during intercourse. The joy and satisfaction of experiencing a mare's orgasmic pleasure adds a...
www.zoovilleforum.net www.zoovilleforum.net

Feel free to dialog with me via direct message. My main purpose here on ZooVille is to help educate others seeking to know the heart of equus, especially the 'ladies'. By helping others learn I'm able to give more than just myself back to beings that are actually unicorns that carry a beautiful light and powerful magic...
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Absolutely. I just want to make sure I’m doing my due diligence in making sure I have the right knowledge on all aspects.

As for the right individual, that’s just it. I want to make sure I’m able to find the right mare. I know age is just a number, but I also know that for a first time horse owner, the younger mares tend to be a little harder to handle and train on basic horsemanship. The primary goal is to just find a mare that is calm, loving, and friendly around all humans. Any mare under 4 years of age is where I’d draw the line. 4 years and older seems best, but again, at the end of the day, it’s all about the personality.

I’ve read both of these articles. Great reads! Although, I do need to refresh my memory on the first one. It’s been a while since I’ve read it.

I would absolutely love to direct message you. I love the wealth of knowledge that is here and hope to build great friendships in this community.
 
Mare Lover 1975 said:
Remember there is no guarantee that any two mares will be interested in having sex at all much less at the same time, while it's likely to happen over time as one sees the other enjoying herself you'll find yourself having to take turns with the pair of them, oh what a terrible chore to have to experience ?

Two or three isn't that bad, six first heat fillies however is a test of endurance that I don't want to ever repeat.
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I’ve heard that the best time/chance to build the intimate part of the relationship is during the first heat she goes through after you get the mare (no matter the age). Is this true?

Is there any chance of them contracting anything from each other if the human partner is being intimate with them both at the same time? Similar to that of humans catching STD’s?

That definitely sounds like a lot to handle haha
 
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