OK not with the intention of ruffling feathers(which it will) most of the men here that have relations with a bitch(k9) in my experience (not me) but I raised dogs for show with my X. We had a Great Pry, A Bouvier des Flanders both in tack and a Saluki bitch. All three were raised together when she came in season both tried a lot. She was 50-55 pounds if that, they were 160 for the pry, 110 for the Bouvier they were together 8-10 years. She was tooth and claws when they tried, she passed a virgin. So in my mind almost any (maybe not all) men that have sexual relations with a bitch are not having her having her tail saying GIVE it to ME!